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Nukie grief

Post by Stabbystab » #707741

When and where this incident occurred (Game Server, forums, Discord): sybil
Byond account and character name OR Discord name: Stabbystab
Admin: Lorwp
ROUND ID HERE IF APPLICABLE: R 215928
Upon spawning in, the nuke code was broken and didn't spawn so we had to ask admins to spawn it, deciding to declare war in the meantime (since, if we weren't going to get the codes, there's no point in stealthing or anything... also it's just fun)
Lorwp made the ship and the codes and it seems they spawned themselves in to tell us the generated code, but since they didn't pick a syndicate loadout and instead spawned in as their lizard static, the turrets shot them and Pbj567 (who they decided to spawn right next to), wounding him (nukies have VERY limited options for treating/fixing bloodloss) and even going as far as criting him. lorwp's lizard was killed after pgj was crited
This incites Kan3 to call Lorwp's spawned in lizard a "ligger" due to one of the nukie ops being gunned down by it appearing.
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This leads to what me and the other nukies think, lorwp gibbed kan3 for his words causing our nukie team to be down a member. though both pbj and kan where brought back it cost us time and it took a while for kan3 to be given back his tc costing us even more time.
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assumedly, Isratosh was not the one to blow up Kan3 (I cannot seem to find any logs of what happened to them though, they have no attack logs until ~5 minutes after dying), so Isratosh (seemingly?) being the one to right whatever happened to Kan3 isn't good (I think admin conduct is to try and fix anything you mess up? I may be misremembering, killing a war op nukie and screwing over the rest of their team over something that opens you up to escalation doesn't seem like good conduct to me (especially since we then failed to blow up the station))

Combat logs (showing Lorwp's placement of themselves as right next to Pbj567 causing him to be shot and wounded, as well as the lack of anything logged at the moment of Kan3's death):
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Re: Nukie grief

Post by lorwp » #707753

Hey, this was an L on me. I misremembered our policy on this (after being prompted to gib them in what was not obvious as a joke at the time in asay) and gibbed them for it. My intention was to spawn in a replacement nukie due to this, but i got quickly corrected in asay. Isratosh had to respawn them due to i lacking +FUN as a Candidate, which is required to equip people.

They got an apology after this, and proceeded business as usual afterwards:

From Ticket #3 during round 215928 on Sybil:

---- Log Begins ----
2023-10-03 01:17:59: Ticket Opened by kan3: I EXPLODED FOR USING THE NEWSCASTER??
2023-10-03 01:18:17: Reply from lorwp: Okay, i'd very much appreciate that you don't use that word on this server
2023-10-03 01:18:30: Reply from kan3: oh my gooood okay fine
2023-10-03 01:19:29: Reply from kan3: are you going to like respawn me or something cause i don't know if you can just like blow people up
2023-10-03 01:19:53: Reply from lorwp: Thank you, only apology here is taht i shouldn't have gibbed you, we've had a slight misunderstanding of how valid you were for using that, it's not admin actionable but it does make you very valid, so please keep that in mind
2023-10-03 01:20:50: Reply from kan3: oh okay i'll be as valid as i like then
2023-10-03 01:21:22: Reply from kan3: also i need more TC i only have base tc and not warops tc
2023-10-03 01:23:43: Reply from lorwp: we're bumping it up now, again sorry about this, obviously i'm not particularly fond of that term but it's not a OOC issue, it does make you extremely valid though at your peril.
2023-10-03 01:24:02: Reply from kan3: cool i'm gonna keep saying it
2023-10-03 01:25:09: Closed by Lorwp
---- No Further Messages ----

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I'm personally chalking this up as a learning experience, it's just a difference in how i'm used to dealing with the usage of words adjacent to slurs.
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Re: Nukie grief

Post by Isratosh » #707782

I was trolling the new admin candidate in ASAY and they took my bait - it was extremely funny and also 100% my fault.

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[2023-10-03 01:16:40.901] ADMINPRIVATE-ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "he just said the L word" (Syndicate Control Room (168,101,13))
[2023-10-03 01:16:53.741] ADMINPRIVATE-ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "he's valid you can kill him" (Syndicate Control Room (169,99,13))
The gibbed player was immediately respawned, re-geared, and given extra telecrystals for the trouble within a few minutes. Lorwp did not have access to the appropriate buttons for this due to their admin rank, so I helped them out.

Lorwp was corrected on this in ASAY immediately after it happened by me, another game admin, and a head admin that was online at the time. This was their first week on the job and they are absolutely allowed to make mistakes, if not expected to.
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Re: Nukie grief

Post by TheBibleMelts » #708025

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Line  1749: [2023-10-03 01:16:22.691] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "OH" (Syndicate Control Room (168,97,13))
	Line  1763: [2023-10-03 01:16:24.553] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "NO ID" (Syndicate Control Room (168,97,13))
	Line  1789: [2023-10-03 01:16:28.987] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "lol" (Brig Control (203,130,2))
	Line  1831: [2023-10-03 01:16:38.379] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "oh" (Syndicate Control Room (168,101,13))
	Line  1840: [2023-10-03 01:16:40.902] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "he just said the L word" (Syndicate Control Room (168,101,13))
	Line  1892: [2023-10-03 01:16:52.677] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Trexter555/(Kraven Lockharte) "lmao what did you do" (Syndicate Control Room (169,96,13))
	Line  1895: [2023-10-03 01:16:53.741] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "he's valid you can kill him" (Syndicate Control Room (169,99,13))
	Line  1984: [2023-10-03 01:17:13.534] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "i spawned myself as pulls to tell them the nuke code and the shuttle fired on me, since i don't have select equipment to give " (Syndicate Control Room (168,96,13))
	Line  1987: [2023-10-03 01:17:14.672] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "one sec" (Syndicate Control Room (168,96,13))
	Line  2000: [2023-10-03 01:17:17.284] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "i need to gib this man" (Syndicate Control Room (171,96,13))
	Line  2069: [2023-10-03 01:17:29.822] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "you are allowed to say ligger" (Syndicate Control Room (169,98,13))
	Line  2129: [2023-10-03 01:17:40.090] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "oh god" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (183,101,13))
	Line  2161: [2023-10-03 01:17:47.316] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "sir it looks like he exploded" (Syndicate Infiltrator Control (184,89,13))
	Line  2248: [2023-10-03 01:18:12.081] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: TheBibleMelts/(Xemo) "what happened" (Syndicate Infiltrator Control (185,89,13))
	Line  2251: [2023-10-03 01:18:13.241] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Trexter555/(Kraven Lockharte) "did you actually just blow up a nukie for saying ligger" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (183,92,13))
	Line  2290: [2023-10-03 01:18:20.559] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "yes" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,92,13))
	Line  2339: [2023-10-03 01:18:30.863] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "im assuming i've overestimated how valid they were" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,92,13))
	Line  2341: [2023-10-03 01:18:31.546] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "this is based" (Syndicate Infiltrator Control (185,89,13))
	Line  2350: [2023-10-03 01:18:32.911] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: TheBibleMelts/(Xemo) "that's not admin actionable" (Syndicate Infiltrator Airlock (181,98,13))
	Line  2351: [2023-10-03 01:18:32.988] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Trexter555/(Kraven Lockharte) "ligger is specifically alowed though" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (183,92,13))
	Line  2376: [2023-10-03 01:18:38.879] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Trexter555/(Kraven Lockharte) "by mso" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (183,93,13))
	Line  2387: [2023-10-03 01:18:42.305] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Trexter555/(Kraven Lockharte) "it just makes you valid" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (183,93,13))
	Line  2397: [2023-10-03 01:18:46.717] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: TheBibleMelts/(Xemo) "it makes you valid " (Syndicate Infiltrator Airlock (181,98,13))
	Line  2414: [2023-10-03 01:18:53.257] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "i'm sorry i was joking earlier" (Syndicate Infiltrator Control (185,89,13))
	Line  2418: [2023-10-03 01:18:54.049] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "wasn't this a thing on the last headmin term t-" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (183,95,13))
	Line  2424: [2023-10-03 01:18:55.755] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "ah" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (183,95,13))
	Line  2439: [2023-10-03 01:18:59.023] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "i'm so terribly sorry" (Syndicate Infiltrator Control (185,89,13))
	Line  2470: [2023-10-03 01:19:10.583] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "just make him alive again" (Syndicate Infiltrator Control (185,89,13))
	Line  2473: [2023-10-03 01:19:12.063] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "okay i'll spawn them back, that's fine" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (183,95,13))
	Line  2553: [2023-10-03 01:19:26.492] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Trexter555/(Kraven Lockharte) "badmin abuse...." (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (183,99,13))
	Line  2599: [2023-10-03 01:19:37.032] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "this is so based" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (183,99,13))
	Line  2726: [2023-10-03 01:20:04.381] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "select equipment to nuclear operative should be sufficient" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,99,13))
	Line  2761: [2023-10-03 01:20:10.552] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "i can't do that part" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (185,92,13))
	Line  2774: [2023-10-03 01:20:13.227] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "oh lmao" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,99,13))
	Line  2779: [2023-10-03 01:20:14.912] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "it's behind +FUN" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (185,94,13))
	Line  2780: [2023-10-03 01:20:15.059] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "i got it" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,99,13))
	Line  2800: [2023-10-03 01:20:20.372] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Trexter555/(Kraven Lockharte) "did he lose his uplink too" (Syndicate Infiltrator Engineering (182,100,13))
	Line  2862: [2023-10-03 01:20:36.851] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "yeah he'll need a new one, but that's fine, just replicate the TC bump on the others" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (185,94,13))
	Line  2920: [2023-10-03 01:20:47.900] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "he's good" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,92,13))
	Line  2942: [2023-10-03 01:20:49.917] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "he has uplink" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,92,13))
	Line  2958: [2023-10-03 01:20:52.348] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "mission is ago" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,92,13))
	Line  3005: [2023-10-03 01:20:57.329] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "green light" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,92,13))
	Line  3017: [2023-10-03 01:21:00.868] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "get dat fukken disk" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,92,13))
	Line  3043: [2023-10-03 01:21:06.419] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "i'm sorry about that i should've checked that before i gibbed him regardless" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (185,94,13))
	Line  3126: [2023-10-03 01:21:26.991] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "okay i fix" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (183,100,13))
	Line  3154: [2023-10-03 01:21:32.156] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "how many TC is warops TC" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (183,98,13))
	Line  3201: [2023-10-03 01:21:40.626] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Trexter555/(Kraven Lockharte) "depends on the pop" (Labor Shuttle Dock (194,141,2))
	Line  3225: [2023-10-03 01:21:43.765] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "lmfao" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (185,99,13))
	Line  3285: [2023-10-03 01:21:59.292] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "give me a guess" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,100,13))
	Line  3287: [2023-10-03 01:22:00.656] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Trexter555/(Kraven Lockharte) "think its usually between 150 and 200" (Chapel Maintenance (181,77,2))
	Line  3292: [2023-10-03 01:22:01.350] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "and add 5" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,100,13))
	Line  3343: [2023-10-03 01:22:15.504] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "shared between the team?" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,97,13))
	Line  3360: [2023-10-03 01:22:22.233] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Trexter555/(Kraven Lockharte) "each" (Medical (160,95,2))
	Line  3375: [2023-10-03 01:22:24.784] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "honestly, give em 160 if that's standalone" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,101,13))
	Line  3382: [2023-10-03 01:22:25.603] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "for fuckin real?" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,97,13))
	Line  3399: [2023-10-03 01:22:30.018] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Trexter555/(Kraven Lockharte) "think so yeah" (Research Division (124,94,2))
	Line  3508: [2023-10-03 01:22:58.291] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "they deserve it after that tbh, i don't like them using it, but it isn't a OOC issue either so they deserve a apology there" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (184,101,13))
	Line  3607: [2023-10-03 01:23:18.802] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "where the FUCK is the var" (Syndicate Infiltrator Control (184,88,13))
	Line  3953: [2023-10-03 01:24:33.427] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "everything is good" (Syndicate Infiltrator Control (182,88,13))
	Line  3956: [2023-10-03 01:24:34.897] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "all fixed" (Syndicate Infiltrator Control (182,88,13))
	Line  4015: [2023-10-03 01:24:50.074] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "guh, ironically if they were crew this would've been simpler, because they would've been already lynched" (Syndicate Infiltrator EVA (187,96,13))
	Line  4185: [2023-10-03 01:25:23.602] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "okay back to business" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (183,98,13))
	Line  4273: [2023-10-03 01:25:46.910] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "but no, mb entirely, that's just me coming from somewhere where we do indeed explode people for that, i misremembered the ruling regardless" (Syndicate Infiltrator Engineering (177,100,13))
	Line  4609: [2023-10-03 01:27:07.210] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Isratosh/(Bartholomew Martins) "<u>@lorwp</u> it was funny as fuck though" (Syndicate Infiltrator Hall (185,102,13))
	Line  4704: [2023-10-03 01:27:30.172] GAME-COMPAT: ADMINPRIVATE: ASAY: Lorwp/(Pulls-The-Boxes) "it was, i have no remorse for them, but it wasn&#39;t a OOC issue either so" (Syndicate Infiltrator Airlock (181,95,13))
here's the ASAY logs relating to it, i feel like a lesson was swiftly learned, chided for, and actions were made to fix the damage caused in pretty short order, and don't personally think any extra action is necessary punitively.
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Re: Nukie grief

Post by Stabbystab » #708105

Alright that sounds good, thank you.
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Re: Nukie grief

Post by Cheshify » #708192

Alright, seems like things have actually wrapped up. I'll leave this up for 24 hours and then close it if there's nothing else to be said.
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