[thunder123456] Livrah - ???

[Livrah]

BYOND account: Livrah
Character name: Boris Mahnov
Ban type: Server
Ban length: 1 day
Ban reason:
https://imgur.com/a/KpBvyNr
Time ban was placed: ^
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 162660
Your side of the story: New converted janni keep his salty shittalk and got punched into red health. When I left to another Z level he was on his feet ON THE CULT BASE.
[2021-05-21 17:27:57.346] ATTACK: Livrah/(Boris Mahnov) has punched KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) with hulk powers (NEWHP: 8.3) (Abandoned Cabin (161,65,4)).
What did I not know, he shortly died after due lack of oxygen (roundstart kit in the backpack) (the ladder to safe maints was in 2 tiles near him).
Why you think you should be unbanned: Uhm, thats all the story from my side. But there is some questionable answers in ahelps from admin side.
Anything else we should know: If there any ban, its janni for banbaiting.

[Thunder11]

The janitor shittalked you after being converted, so you beat him almost to crit leading to his death from suffocation shortly after. At no point during our conversation did you offer any justification other than that it was the victim's fault because he deserved it for (extremely mildly) shittalking you, nor do you seem to understand that even if he didn't play optimally to get out of the situation you put him in, your actions precipitated his death.

This entire appeal consists of you sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling the same arguments you offered during our conversation in PMs but louder, and is denied.

[Livrah]

The janitor shittalked you after being converted, so you beat him almost to crit leading to his death from suffocation shortly after. At no point during our conversation did you offer any justification other than that it was the victim's fault because he deserved it for (extremely mildly) shittalking you, nor do you seem to understand that even if he didn't play optimally to get out of the situation you put him in, your actions precipitated his death.

This entire appeal consists of you sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling the same arguments you offered during our conversation in PMs but louder, and is denied.

Thanks for the answer, I heard your opinion in ahelps already. If it was fair enough Id not appealed the ban.

Didnt crit - didnt mean to.

[Livrah]

And the person who ahelped has some active permaband from other servers - maybe there is a place for active shittery and banbait what retrieved wrong.
https://centcom.melonmesa.com/viewer/view/kiromaka

[wesoda25]

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05:27:23	GAME	KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) has gained antag datum Cultist(/datum/antagonist/cult)		
05:27:39	SAY	KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) "dude"	(160, 66, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:27:39	EMOTE	KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) coughs!	(160, 66, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:27:40	SAY	KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) "so \"	(160, 66, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:27:41	SAY	KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) "dirst"	(160, 66, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:27:45	SAY	KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) "you FUCKIGN bad cult"	(160, 66, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:27:48	SAY	KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) "second"	(160, 65, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:27:49	ATTACK	Livrah/(Boris Mahnov) has punched KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) with hulk powers (NEWHP: 82.5)	(160, 65, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:27:50	ATTACK	Livrah/(Boris Mahnov) has shoved KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 79.5)	(161, 65, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:27:52	ATTACK	Livrah/(Boris Mahnov) has punched KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) with hulk powers (NEWHP: 64.5)	(161, 65, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:27:53	ATTACK	Livrah/(Boris Mahnov) has punched KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) with hulk powers (NEWHP: 49.5)	(161, 65, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:27:54	ATTACK	Livrah/(Boris Mahnov) has punched KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) with hulk powers (NEWHP: 34.5)	(161, 65, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:27:55	ATTACK	Livrah/(Boris Mahnov) has punched KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) with hulk powers (NEWHP: 19.5)	(161, 65, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:27:57	ATTACK	KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) has suffered: Joint Dislocation to left leg | Damage: 15 (rolled 30/44.3127) | WB: 10	(162, 65, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:27:57	ATTACK	Livrah/(Boris Mahnov) has punched KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) with hulk powers (NEWHP: 8.3)	(161, 65, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:28:01	SAY	KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) "wow"	(161, 65, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:29:36	EMOTE	KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) gasps!	(160, 65, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:30:00	OOC	KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) "no admins yeea"	(160, 65, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:30:06	OOC	KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) "just got teamkilled"	(160, 65, 4)	Abandoned Cabin
05:30:26	OOC	KiromaKa/(Vano Petrov) "no admins"	(160, 65, 4)	Abandoned Cabin

Omitted incantations/forced speech from spells and hulk for livrah. Logs from: https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/162660