[Player Report][Yumi Shibanuma] Intentional FF at a high caliber
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[Player Report][Yumi Shibanuma] Intentional FF at a high caliber
Your Byond ckey: BillyBoBBizWorth
Your character name: Max Dallas, Cindy Breeze, Ziggy 'Z' Ragman, Buster 'B' Bearings, Hans Zwitter, Kane 'Knuckles' Khristof, Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler, Vick Missions
Their Byond ckey(s) (if known): Unknown
Their character name(s): Yumi Shibanuma
When did it take place (or if known, the RoundID): Half of the complaint is from today, the other half is relevant to the video evidence i stumbled across not long after.
What rules were broken: Rule 3.8, 5.8, 1.2, 3.2, and maybe others is falls under.
Your side of the story:
Firstly, just like to say that i actually like this player and have seen them alot since ive been playing CM/TGMC servers over the last years and really have never had a personal issue/issue, until now.
I played two rounds today in which this exact player refused any orders by command, the first round i was FCDR Ziggy 'Z' Ragman, and the second is the round straight after as FCMR Max Dallas, to which i led the marines to victory without the help of Yumi, which in both rounds refused and disrespected command orders/structure in the extact same way, as if they were the same round.( check your logs for confirmation, on everything i say infact )
I ordered a arrest of this character in both rounds, the first round they got arrested by one MP that awoke and managed to capture Yumi at the LZ on LV, the second round they went to engage on BIG RED as a solo marine and ended up getting captured and killed fairly early enough into the round as SGT, which was mentioned over COMMS to me.Nevertheless i helped the marines achieve victory in a situation we could of easily lost, without the Yumi character, it didnt make a difference.
Now i have a similar understanding with having a character that doesnt give a toss at all, about anything, basically breaching server rules, as i have a character that can be like that sometimes, being : Ziggy 'Z' Ragman as i was banned from the CM server for being too vocal about my opinions.So i actually get that side of a character and enjoy some characters being like that, hence this not being a character assassination.But now i present you the evidence in which made me totally not give a flying shit about Yumi and the player playing her, here it is :
Take a good look at this video, and you see Yumi Intentionally fire a tank LTB round at a comrad for simply trying to assist her in removing obstacules to get her and the tank through HYDRO when they could of easily went around.As soon as i seen this i saw fire.As i reported "well named" players on CM for doing this exact kind of attemped execution/griefing and ended up making many enemies with the staff there, for simply stating and showing the truth.
Well i named them players over there over shit like this, and im prepared to do it all over again so players dont get the opportunity to do this to other players that clearly dont deserve it.
Yumi, yeah im talking to you, at the very least you get a somewhat lengthy ban for this and at maximum a permaban for doing things that the rules clearly state arent allowed.
I have several scenarios that happened to me still in my mind from the CM server when i was found as the instigator for simply reporting issues the staff claimed they wanted reported, well i dont care if its CM, TGMC or any other server, im going to report what i see even if it means i myself ends up getting banned, i wont submit or back down.
Yumi, if i see you ingame, as i told you as a FCMR just today, you WILL NOT get any support from me or anyone that decides to follow my orders, you to me are a NON MARINE, YOU want to act, grief and attempt to kill marines trying to help you, you can simply GET FUCKED AND FUCK OFF.
I hope Yumi, the player that plays that character sees this, my words are as serious as i wrote them.Im not joking around.
I hope other players that know of this player also see this and treat them accordingly to how they are treating other players, like fucking shit.
Well now your the fucking dogshit Yumi, ill make sure of it.I went to war with Heinz, Murray, and other well known players for the same fucking rule breaking bias and you wont be the last.
I hope you get everything you deserve, a god damn permaban.I dont even need to know 100% that the possibility is that other players have reported your shit to admins already on TGMC and this isnt the first time.
JUST TO REITERATE : I went through this exact kind of scenario many times reporting these exact kind of issues with well known players performing acts clearly against the rules, yet getting away with it, and ended up being the focus of somekind of malicious intent which was never the case at all, I WILL NOT TOLERATE BEING TREATED THE SAME WAY FROM ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE, and im saying this very honestly.I, will, not, tolerate, being labelled as the instigator for simply reporting facts.Hence, yeah this fucking pisses me off to see it transfer to TGMC like this and so easily.
Ive never intentionally shot at another marine in this kind of fashion without it being pure self defence, whether the admin saw it that way or not.But i have however watched players like yourself do it to other players and for the most part somehow get away with it, because no one reports it, well i am reporting it and im damn well expecting something to be done about it too.
Anyone getting ready to respond to this better bloody understand that, or ill blow a gasket like youve never seen before.
Id honest to god love to hear your explanation for these accusations/video PROOF Yumi, i really would, come and share it with us if you have the nuts for it.
Because to be very frank with you, im risking a ban over BATTLE EXECUTING YOU the next time i see you, just so i know that i gave some kind of justice to you treating others like that.
Your character name: Max Dallas, Cindy Breeze, Ziggy 'Z' Ragman, Buster 'B' Bearings, Hans Zwitter, Kane 'Knuckles' Khristof, Blitz 'Krieg' Schneidler, Vick Missions
Their Byond ckey(s) (if known): Unknown
Their character name(s): Yumi Shibanuma
When did it take place (or if known, the RoundID): Half of the complaint is from today, the other half is relevant to the video evidence i stumbled across not long after.
What rules were broken: Rule 3.8, 5.8, 1.2, 3.2, and maybe others is falls under.
Your side of the story:
Firstly, just like to say that i actually like this player and have seen them alot since ive been playing CM/TGMC servers over the last years and really have never had a personal issue/issue, until now.
I played two rounds today in which this exact player refused any orders by command, the first round i was FCDR Ziggy 'Z' Ragman, and the second is the round straight after as FCMR Max Dallas, to which i led the marines to victory without the help of Yumi, which in both rounds refused and disrespected command orders/structure in the extact same way, as if they were the same round.( check your logs for confirmation, on everything i say infact )
I ordered a arrest of this character in both rounds, the first round they got arrested by one MP that awoke and managed to capture Yumi at the LZ on LV, the second round they went to engage on BIG RED as a solo marine and ended up getting captured and killed fairly early enough into the round as SGT, which was mentioned over COMMS to me.Nevertheless i helped the marines achieve victory in a situation we could of easily lost, without the Yumi character, it didnt make a difference.
Now i have a similar understanding with having a character that doesnt give a toss at all, about anything, basically breaching server rules, as i have a character that can be like that sometimes, being : Ziggy 'Z' Ragman as i was banned from the CM server for being too vocal about my opinions.So i actually get that side of a character and enjoy some characters being like that, hence this not being a character assassination.But now i present you the evidence in which made me totally not give a flying shit about Yumi and the player playing her, here it is :
Take a good look at this video, and you see Yumi Intentionally fire a tank LTB round at a comrad for simply trying to assist her in removing obstacules to get her and the tank through HYDRO when they could of easily went around.As soon as i seen this i saw fire.As i reported "well named" players on CM for doing this exact kind of attemped execution/griefing and ended up making many enemies with the staff there, for simply stating and showing the truth.
Well i named them players over there over shit like this, and im prepared to do it all over again so players dont get the opportunity to do this to other players that clearly dont deserve it.
Yumi, yeah im talking to you, at the very least you get a somewhat lengthy ban for this and at maximum a permaban for doing things that the rules clearly state arent allowed.
I have several scenarios that happened to me still in my mind from the CM server when i was found as the instigator for simply reporting issues the staff claimed they wanted reported, well i dont care if its CM, TGMC or any other server, im going to report what i see even if it means i myself ends up getting banned, i wont submit or back down.
Yumi, if i see you ingame, as i told you as a FCMR just today, you WILL NOT get any support from me or anyone that decides to follow my orders, you to me are a NON MARINE, YOU want to act, grief and attempt to kill marines trying to help you, you can simply GET FUCKED AND FUCK OFF.
I hope Yumi, the player that plays that character sees this, my words are as serious as i wrote them.Im not joking around.
I hope other players that know of this player also see this and treat them accordingly to how they are treating other players, like fucking shit.
Well now your the fucking dogshit Yumi, ill make sure of it.I went to war with Heinz, Murray, and other well known players for the same fucking rule breaking bias and you wont be the last.
I hope you get everything you deserve, a god damn permaban.I dont even need to know 100% that the possibility is that other players have reported your shit to admins already on TGMC and this isnt the first time.
JUST TO REITERATE : I went through this exact kind of scenario many times reporting these exact kind of issues with well known players performing acts clearly against the rules, yet getting away with it, and ended up being the focus of somekind of malicious intent which was never the case at all, I WILL NOT TOLERATE BEING TREATED THE SAME WAY FROM ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE, and im saying this very honestly.I, will, not, tolerate, being labelled as the instigator for simply reporting facts.Hence, yeah this fucking pisses me off to see it transfer to TGMC like this and so easily.
Ive never intentionally shot at another marine in this kind of fashion without it being pure self defence, whether the admin saw it that way or not.But i have however watched players like yourself do it to other players and for the most part somehow get away with it, because no one reports it, well i am reporting it and im damn well expecting something to be done about it too.
Anyone getting ready to respond to this better bloody understand that, or ill blow a gasket like youve never seen before.
Id honest to god love to hear your explanation for these accusations/video PROOF Yumi, i really would, come and share it with us if you have the nuts for it.
Because to be very frank with you, im risking a ban over BATTLE EXECUTING YOU the next time i see you, just so i know that i gave some kind of justice to you treating others like that.
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Re: [Player Report][Yumi Shibanuma] Intentional FF at a high caliber
Hello there, the admin team has seen this report and I will be investigating.
I'd like to thank you for making the report and having patience with me while I look into this matter.
By chance you wouldn't happen to remember the round ids for the rounds you mentioned above, would you?
I'd like to thank you for making the report and having patience with me while I look into this matter.
By chance you wouldn't happen to remember the round ids for the rounds you mentioned above, would you?
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Re: [Player Report][Yumi Shibanuma] Intentional FF at a high caliber
Hey Trevorious, thaanks for the reply, no i cant give you or recall rouund ID's sadly, all i can tell you is that, that the instances with myself and Yumi were from yestereday, which should be easy enoungh to find(log wise), as i said i was FCMR Ziggy 'Z' Ragman in the first round noted and FCMR Max Dallas in the second instance.The video evidence was not from me personally, but evidence i just happen to stumble upon after "googling" for SS13 videos, which i do regularly.
JUST TO CLARIFY :
I Really do think Yumi is a good marine, i know they are a good player, ive seen them be a good player enough times to know this, i really dont want to wish or want destruction of another character but i really feel this needs to be reported and the kind of treatment to other players, at which(to some extent ive done myself, but not to level of tank rounding another fucking character) these players think they have a right to, needs to cease.Which i believe your rules call for.
I tried to prevent it once before on the other server, but was far too integrated for one sole person to try to rid of.And my attempts here will be most likely be just as fruitless unless one, or some admins take me seriously.Which i am.Very serious.
Please take me seriously.
JUST TO CLARIFY :
I Really do think Yumi is a good marine, i know they are a good player, ive seen them be a good player enough times to know this, i really dont want to wish or want destruction of another character but i really feel this needs to be reported and the kind of treatment to other players, at which(to some extent ive done myself, but not to level of tank rounding another fucking character) these players think they have a right to, needs to cease.Which i believe your rules call for.
I tried to prevent it once before on the other server, but was far too integrated for one sole person to try to rid of.And my attempts here will be most likely be just as fruitless unless one, or some admins take me seriously.Which i am.Very serious.
Please take me seriously.
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Re: [Player Report][Yumi Shibanuma] Intentional FF at a high caliber
Understood, i agree i was angry, bashful and harsh with my opening statements, however i still stand by everything it said.I know im not being punished for it, but its like i am anyhow.
Just for saying it, i dont know what i can say really because the words i already said are everything i meant.Im more than willing to be punished over anything you may have think ive done wrong, as im so used to it.It doesnt matter anymore.
Just treat my report seriously, as this was about truth.
Just for saying it, i dont know what i can say really because the words i already said are everything i meant.Im more than willing to be punished over anything you may have think ive done wrong, as im so used to it.It doesnt matter anymore.
Just treat my report seriously, as this was about truth.
- Rohesie
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Re: [Player Report][Yumi Shibanuma] Intentional FF at a high caliber
The report is being treated seriously, we have an admin going through the logs and the general history is being discussed in the admin channels. You'll be informed through here once the investigating admin reaches a conclusion on whether the report proceeds or not, if they actions were acceptable or not (though we do not give specifics about punishments to respect player privacy, if they happen).
Please do not engage in grief against perceived griefers, least you make our job more difficult and end up on the same field as them. Some of the examples you've quoted are already removed from our community in any case, should that give you any indication of what kind stance we've been taking.
Please do not engage in grief against perceived griefers, least you make our job more difficult and end up on the same field as them. Some of the examples you've quoted are already removed from our community in any case, should that give you any indication of what kind stance we've been taking.
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Re: [Player Report][Yumi Shibanuma] Intentional FF at a high caliber
Here's all the game logs for the two rounds mentioned.
First.
And the second.
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And the second.
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Re: [Player Report][Yumi Shibanuma] Intentional FF at a high caliber
Roger Rohesie, and i must say just as a comment that i respect the players that log dive and pull them up like this, i appreciate it.Rohesie wrote:The report is being treated seriously, we have an admin going through the logs and the general history is being discussed in the admin channels. You'll be informed through here once the investigating admin reaches a conclusion on whether the report proceeds or not, if they actions were acceptable or not (though we do not give specifics about punishments to respect player privacy, if they happen).
Please do not engage in grief against perceived griefers, least you make our job more difficult and end up on the same field as them. Some of the examples you've quoted are already removed from our community in any case, should that give you any indication of what kind stance we've been taking.
I dont intend on doing anything myself, whether its classed as grief or not by you admins unless i see nothing done.I assure you i will become the griefer myself against this player as my way of justice and am willing to take all punishment for it too.That i assure you.
Reasons why is because ive done this same game with admins over at CM and absolutely diddley squat gets done and im not ready to tolerate it here, even as a player.Either the response from admins needs to be better(which i do believe you group of guys are) or expect people like myself to just take it into their own hands at the risk of being banished themselves.
Few things i need to further clarify as well, which will show to some degree im not about destroying this player/character Yumi, but actually just want proper and responsive administration :
Firstly, its actually against the rules to use constant CAPS like i do with a few of my characters, but i do try to break it up, even, though most is in CAPS as im trying to give orders and stress that i need these orders done.It was very effective for me on CM and ive had somewhat the same effectiveness here, however lower hence the lower population here.
Secondly, talking about population.I dont think everything Yumi does is wrong by any measure, they are clearly trying to have fun in their own way and as i mentioned Ziggy Ragman is a similar kind of character when not in high responsibility roles like FCMDR etc.
BUT, when im a Commander role on a low pop server, where sometimes there isnt pilots, bridge staff, medical team, cargo staff, military police, and im trying to do all these roles atleast somewhat to try and ensure success of a mission(which i always take seriously, as expected, and always have, maybe somewhat too much even), i really dont need players like Yumi busting my chops/causing a distraction(from a teammate) like this ingame.
Which is the third thing, i shouldnt really be denying marines attachments, even though they hack into the doors and vendors almost each and every round.I dont have time/equipment/authority to also try and be a wanna-be MP(which marines hate and i hate doing), so simply skipping the REQ portion which i almost always bloody do for the marines wasnt seen as a major issue to me.And to be honest the marines ended up winning that round anyhow.Judging from the logs, but its impossible to be sure, it looked like Yumi det-packed tried to suicide or something of the sorts, not 100% sure though but thats what it read like.
Sure, they are free to do so to a certain extent, but i feel on low pop Xeno V Marine it really doesnt help and is ever more noticeable over higher pop servers like CM.
As you can see from anyone that read the logs(i read the logs even though i myself said all that) that i was basically ignoring Yumi for the most part and was giving all energy towards getting a MAJOR WIN for the marines.I always do.
Thirdly, i dont know how many players that do frequent the TGMC server, but what i noticed from my CM experience is even making a report like this(i gave you basically all my ingame character names) can have a effect where a certain character/player isnt listened to anymore because they basically "outed" another player, which is bullshit, but it happens.I may have to abandon all the characters i mentioned all this report and forge new ones over this potentially.
Example :
A well known player Phillip Murray was recently banned from CM server for metacomming, i knew he was metacomming a long time ago as i imagine quite a few people knew.Theres a now admin Bancrose which plays a character Heinz Mueller which i also believe is/was a heavy metacommer/metabuddier but now is a admin over there.The player Murray was only just now banned for this shit, even though alot knew the odds of them doing this were high, nothing was done.
Basically, the point im getting at with this, is that i highly expect you admins here do not allow this same kind of shit to carry on/over to your own server, because i assure you theres already probably some here but because of the low pop count wont be noticeable until, if and when it does get to a high pop level.
Im watching you admins just as much as your watching me, i dont need to see your Asay, or Msay, or even anything on discord.
I know exactly what your doing or not doing by everything ingame.
I expect you to do the roles you put upon yourselves and i will mention anything, everytime, that i think needs to be mentioned, at the risk of ban.
Each and everytime.I can either work with you guys as a player to admin, or against you and end up inevitably get banned like i did on CM.
Once again, these are my true thoughts and honest opinions, i regret nothing and you can take it however you see fit.
Thank you.
- Rohesie
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Re: [Player Report][Yumi Shibanuma] Intentional FF at a high caliber
This is a bit of a long and off-topic message, but here we go.
If marines win or lose, that's secondary to us. Making one of the two sides win will never be make breaking a rule ok. If the win is that important for someone, then that person should reconsider their game style, as it is not fitting here.
The staff is made fully of unpaid volunteers who sacrifice their free time so others may enjoy playing while they babysit the rest. Most of the admins would rather be playing than moderating, most of the time. But we do it because we have a certain appreciation for the project and would like to see it succeed. That said, if any is overstepping their bounds, do please report them. We've removed admins for unfitting behavior in the past, and nobody has a free pass here.
All this said, let's please cut this off-topic talk from the thread and focus on what it is about. There's Discord and other channels for this kind of thing.
Have a nice day.
I'd recommend you stopped playing and switched servers instead, if it came to that. Else you'll waste both your time and that of the admins of any server in where you engage in such behavior.BillyBoBBizWorth wrote: Roger Rohesie, and i must say just as a comment that i respect the players that log dive and pull them up like this, i appreciate it.
I dont intend on doing anything myself, whether its classed as grief or not by you admins unless i see nothing done.I assure you i will become the griefer myself against this player as my way of justice and am willing to take all punishment for it too.That i assure you.
I see you come from CM. We do things somewhat different here, not necessarily for the better. One difference we have is that we'd rather not have server-bashing here. If you have opinions against CM, feel free to share them respectfully on a suitable channel. This is neither respectful not in the right channel.BillyBoBBizWorth wrote: Reasons why is because ive done this same game with admins over at CM and absolutely diddley squat gets done and im not ready to tolerate it here, even as a player.Either the response from admins needs to be better(which i do believe you group of guys are) or expect people like myself to just take it into their own hands at the risk of being banished themselves.
The focus we've given to the game is cooperative. You do not need the equipment or authority to be a MP, because you have the ahelp button and the admins have it.BillyBoBBizWorth wrote: BUT, when im a Commander role on a low pop server, where sometimes there isnt pilots, bridge staff, medical team, cargo staff, military police, and im trying to do all these roles atleast somewhat to try and ensure success of a mission(which i always take seriously, as expected, and always have, maybe somewhat too much even), i really dont need players like Yumi busting my chops/causing a distraction(from a teammate) like this ingame.
Which is the third thing, i shouldnt really be denying marines attachments, even though they hack into the doors and vendors almost each and every round.I dont have time/equipment/authority to also try and be a wanna-be MP(which marines hate and i hate doing), so simply skipping the REQ portion which i almost always bloody do for the marines wasnt seen as a major issue to me.And to be honest the marines ended up winning that round anyhow.Judging from the logs, but its impossible to be sure, it looked like Yumi det-packed tried to suicide or something of the sorts, not 100% sure though but thats what it read like.
If marines win or lose, that's secondary to us. Making one of the two sides win will never be make breaking a rule ok. If the win is that important for someone, then that person should reconsider their game style, as it is not fitting here.
What I said about server-bashing is even more serious regarding player-bashing. Please do not bring up unrelated people here, and much less accusations without evidence. If you wish to report a player do so through the proper channels/thread.BillyBoBBizWorth wrote: A well known player Phillip Murray was recently banned from CM server for metacomming, i knew he was metacomming a long time ago as i imagine quite a few people knew.Theres a now admin Bancrose which plays a character Heinz Mueller which i also believe is/was a heavy metacommer/metabuddier but now is a admin over there.The player Murray was only just now banned for this shit, even though alot knew the odds of them doing this were high, nothing was done.
Metacomms is something we have no interest in tolerating, but neither we'll be banning people without proof. "Probably" doesn't cut it. If you know of any rule-breaks, please report them. But avoid theorizing without substance, paranoia doesn't get us far.BillyBoBBizWorth wrote: Basically, the point im getting at with this, is that i highly expect you admins here do not allow this same kind of shit to carry on/over to your own server, because i assure you theres already probably some here but because of the low pop count wont be noticeable until, if and when it does get to a high pop level.
Admin accountability is something we hold in high regard here. Our rules are pretty restrictive to them compared with other servers, which allow them to spawn themselves in roles that affect the round directly, have custom snowflake characters, roles, gear or cosmetics, or choose who to give benefits. I warn candidates that admining here is not really all that fun for the most part.BillyBoBBizWorth wrote: Im watching you admins just as much as your watching me, i dont need to see your Asay, or Msay, or even anything on discord.
I know exactly what your doing or not doing by everything ingame.
I expect you to do the roles you put upon yourselves and i will mention anything, everytime, that i think needs to be mentioned, at the risk of ban.
Each and everytime.I can either work with you guys as a player to admin, or against you and end up inevitably get banned like i did on CM.
The staff is made fully of unpaid volunteers who sacrifice their free time so others may enjoy playing while they babysit the rest. Most of the admins would rather be playing than moderating, most of the time. But we do it because we have a certain appreciation for the project and would like to see it succeed. That said, if any is overstepping their bounds, do please report them. We've removed admins for unfitting behavior in the past, and nobody has a free pass here.
All this said, let's please cut this off-topic talk from the thread and focus on what it is about. There's Discord and other channels for this kind of thing.
Have a nice day.
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Re: [Player Report][Yumi Shibanuma] Intentional FF at a high caliber
First I'd like to apologize for the late response.
I wanted to give Yumi the time to reply if they had any interest in doing so. I also wanted to give the whole matter plenty of thought before I made a decision.
Sadly Yumi doesn't seem to be interested in speaking here.
Thank you for making this report. The situation has been resolved, this was very unfitting behavior.
All this said, you should never take matters into your own hands in-game. You did the proper thing by making this report.
We don't allow BEs in-game so please don't do this. It will just get you in trouble as well, and make things twice as hard for the admin handling the situation.
If you ever see something happen in-game and and you think it wasn't being handled. Or wasn't handled correctly you should ahelp or make a report like this.
I wanted to give Yumi the time to reply if they had any interest in doing so. I also wanted to give the whole matter plenty of thought before I made a decision.
Sadly Yumi doesn't seem to be interested in speaking here.
Thank you for making this report. The situation has been resolved, this was very unfitting behavior.
All this said, you should never take matters into your own hands in-game. You did the proper thing by making this report.
We don't allow BEs in-game so please don't do this. It will just get you in trouble as well, and make things twice as hard for the admin handling the situation.
If you ever see something happen in-game and and you think it wasn't being handled. Or wasn't handled correctly you should ahelp or make a report like this.
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