BYOND account: <Phobe Stall>
Character name: <John Cooper>
Admin in question: <JeanManche>
When did it take place: <10:30-11:00 UTC>
Round ID in which ban was placed: <7881>
Your side of the story: <I went down as a Medical Researcher to get an infected monkey for my research. I admit I was on the frontlines but I was staying back and wasn't actually fighting anything. I was then bwoinked in the middle of nowhere while I was going to get an egg to infect a monkey with and was told by JeanManche that as a Medical Researcher you can't go planetside under any circumstances, witch I know is VERY wrong but he insisted and cryoe'd me, wasting almost an hour of my time and ruining my round. Very unformal and not very nice of a thing to do. Keep in mind this is my first time breaking said rule and I didn't know about it beforehand. Even though I was allowed to do this last night at the time I'm writing this complaint and an admin even played into our gimmicks. I can't remember who but they used admin powers to move pens and papers to us to send faxes to Nanotrasen about our alien we captured. So I don't understand why this would be against the rules as the one job Medical Researchers have is to make corrupted aliens and occasionally help out other people even though Medical Researchers aren't required to heal people. [img]file:///C:/Users/shark/OneDrive/Pictures/TGMC01.png[/img]
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tell me if the screenshots aren't working I'm a retard>
[COMPLAINT] [<JeanManche>] <Phobe Stall>
- Lewdcifer
- TGMC Lead
- Joined: Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:59 pm
- Byond Username: Lewdcifer
- Location: Everywhere and nowhere.
Re: [COMPLAINT] [<JeanManche>] <Phobe Stall>
Images are not working, may wanna fix those.
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Re: [COMPLAINT] [<JeanManche>] <Phobe Stall>
Here are the logs for our tickets, including the input from Lewdcifer during the ticket messages :
Here are the facts :
- You were, as a medical researcher, armored and armed.
- You were deployed, outside FOB.
- You were on the very frontline, not at the back.
- You even got moderately/lightly injured and went back to FOB to get treated during our messages.
- You were admin cryoed after leaving again the FOB to return to the frontline.
Here is the motivation of my ruling :
- You would have stayed at FOB, I would have said nothing.
- You would have gone outside FOB, but very barely armed, or unarmed, I would have frowned upon it, but, I would have let it go.
My conclusion :
- The cryoing was a way to remove you from the round, without having to ban you or doing something harsher.
- The note you had was mainly due to the fact that you refused to acknowledge you were actively in a fighting situation, despite being a medical researcher.
I have no further details to add, I am awaiting for Lewdcifer questions/decision.
Spoiler:
- You were, as a medical researcher, armored and armed.
- You were deployed, outside FOB.
- You were on the very frontline, not at the back.
- You even got moderately/lightly injured and went back to FOB to get treated during our messages.
- You were admin cryoed after leaving again the FOB to return to the frontline.
Here is the motivation of my ruling :
- You would have stayed at FOB, I would have said nothing.
- You would have gone outside FOB, but very barely armed, or unarmed, I would have frowned upon it, but, I would have let it go.
My conclusion :
- The cryoing was a way to remove you from the round, without having to ban you or doing something harsher.
- The note you had was mainly due to the fact that you refused to acknowledge you were actively in a fighting situation, despite being a medical researcher.
I have no further details to add, I am awaiting for Lewdcifer questions/decision.
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- Joined: Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:41 am
Re: [COMPLAINT] [<JeanManche>] <Phobe Stall>
Why do you talk like you are wearing a tuxedo at all times? It doesn't make you look smart it just makes you look like a tool.JeanManche wrote:Here are the logs for our tickets, including the input from Lewdcifer during the ticket messages :Here are the facts :Spoiler:
- You were, as a medical researcher, armored and armed.
- You were deployed, outside FOB.
- You were on the very frontline, not at the back.
- You even got moderately/lightly injured and went back to FOB to get treated during our messages.
- You were admin cryoed after leaving again the FOB to return to the frontline.
Here is the motivation of my ruling :
- You would have stayed at FOB, I would have said nothing.
- You would have gone outside FOB, but very barely armed, or unarmed, I would have frowned upon it, but, I would have let it go.
My conclusion :
- The cryoing was a way to remove you from the round, without having to ban you or doing something harsher.
- The note you had was mainly due to the fact that you refused to acknowledge you were actively in a fighting situation, despite being a medical researcher.
I have no further details to add, I am awaiting for Lewdcifer questions/decision.
- Lewdcifer
- TGMC Lead
- Joined: Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:59 pm
- Byond Username: Lewdcifer
- Location: Everywhere and nowhere.
Re: [COMPLAINT] [<JeanManche>] <Phobe Stall>
Rule 5, Precedent 7: CLs and Medical Researchers are held to higher RP standards but otherwise given more freedom to spice the round up. They should still not sabotage the mission, antagonize the marines without direct orders, nor fail to represent the interests of the company.
What "higher RP standards" entails in this context, is that you shouldn't be playing Medical Researcher like a frontliner. There's many other ways of achieving your goals (to provide some examples: ask a marine force to come with you and flank around the main xeno push, ask a marine to keep an eye out for eggs and report their location so you can just slide by, etc).
I will admit that cryoing you may have been a bit too much, but my main concern is that you weren't playing the role as intended. If you'd like to actively engage in combat, there's other roles you could be playing instead.
I will also go ahead and say each admin has their own way of enforcing the rules, so even if you weren't bwoinked before for it, it doesn't mean it's inherently alright to do it. If you require clarification on whether what you plan to do is alright or not, you could simply ask admins first via an ahelp before acting. If they give you the OK, then no problem. If an admin tells you "no", respecting their ruling.
Additionally;
What "higher RP standards" entails in this context, is that you shouldn't be playing Medical Researcher like a frontliner. There's many other ways of achieving your goals (to provide some examples: ask a marine force to come with you and flank around the main xeno push, ask a marine to keep an eye out for eggs and report their location so you can just slide by, etc).
I will admit that cryoing you may have been a bit too much, but my main concern is that you weren't playing the role as intended. If you'd like to actively engage in combat, there's other roles you could be playing instead.
I will also go ahead and say each admin has their own way of enforcing the rules, so even if you weren't bwoinked before for it, it doesn't mean it's inherently alright to do it. If you require clarification on whether what you plan to do is alright or not, you could simply ask admins first via an ahelp before acting. If they give you the OK, then no problem. If an admin tells you "no", respecting their ruling.
Additionally;
Please mind your words. Complaints and appeals exist to discuss things formally and with the proper actitude, not to do these sorts of remarks.Gub Gub Gub Gub Gub wrote:Why do you talk like you are wearing a tuxedo at all times? It doesn't make you look smart it just makes you look like a tool.
- Lewdcifer
- TGMC Lead
- Joined: Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:59 pm
- Byond Username: Lewdcifer
- Location: Everywhere and nowhere.
Re: [COMPLAINT] [<JeanManche>] <Phobe Stall>
Enough time was given for all involved parties to offer a response. Since there has been none, I will be closing this thread.
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