[No Longer Admin] Okand37
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[No Longer Admin] Okand37
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Re: Okand37
Probably the best trialadmin/admin candidate I've ever seen.
DEAD: Tim Ebow says, ">rylie talking shit and not actually doing anything again"
DEAD: Tim Ebow says, "What a twist"
DEAD: Tim Ebow says, "What a twist"
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Re: Okand37
Polite, to the point, briming with knowledge of the game and is dedicated to admining. One of the best admins I've seen for a long while.
Of course they still have little bits and bobs to learn about admining, but they always ask first and then act. A pleasure to work with.
Of course they still have little bits and bobs to learn about admining, but they always ask first and then act. A pleasure to work with.
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Re: Okand37
I had my first ahelp with him earlier, really great guy
handled it well, not much else to say
handled it well, not much else to say
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Re: Okand37
Mackerel wrote:https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 94#p176094
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Re: Okand37
First draft pick for the season, John. Real A+ Bagilmin who does a lot of 'passing' in the 'pocket' on the side of you know what I mean. She can do some big time football.
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Re: Okand37
My favorite new admin.
kieth4 wrote: infrequently shitting yourself is fine imo
There is a lot of very bizarre nonsense being talked on this forum. I shall now remain silent and logoff until my points are vindicated.
Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
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Re: Okand37
Go onHibbles wrote:Real A+ Bagilmin who does a lot of 'passing' in the 'pocket' on the side of you know what I mean.
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Re: Okand37
A great bagilmin who is polite and quick to respond to ahelps. May his watch never end.
Also known as K Pecucklier
Yell at me here --> https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=5075
Yell at me here --> https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=5075
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Re: Okand37
Extremely nice and polite to deal with, on top of promoting role-play and being extremely help to new players!
Fullmin post haste.
Doesn't play as often as they used to, and they're sorely missed in-character.
Fullmin post haste.
Doesn't play as often as they used to, and they're sorely missed in-character.
~lighter than Aire~
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Re: Okand37
Such is the fate of all those snatched up by the adminbus
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Re: Okand37
So helpful and kind. Okand always calmly deals with my stupid questions and is so very patient. Good teacher 11/10.
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Re: Okand37
She's a great gal. Feel like I have to fight with her over some ahelps though, quick finger on the trigger. Wouldn't mind if she makes fullmin before me.
That's no actually what I'm saying to do though.
That's no actually what I'm saying to do though.
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Re: Okand37
[04:03:22]SAY: Ghost/Okand37 : No, kor said not to mess with megafauna.
I found this while searching for someone to yell at, good admin thank you.
I found this while searching for someone to yell at, good admin thank you.
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Re: Okand37
It's injustice for Okand to stay a trialmin, give her fullmin asap.
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Re: Okand37
She was talking to me, i spawned one in the thunderdome to fuck about with it. She didnt say why so i assumed it was a crash related bug or something and deleted him
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Re: Okand37
Has been confirmed to be in a cheating scandal with Niknakflak. Very disappointed.
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Re: Okand37
I acted alone though...?
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Re: Okand37
this scandal goes without evidence.
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Re: Okand37
He wasn't alone. You don't get to bring friends.NikNakFlak wrote:I acted alone though...?
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Re: Okand37
One of the basil greats. Gets shit done and keeps people in check whilst promoting good RP.
Is also an Ahelp Ninja, seriously... you'll only be able to answer an ahelp if he's currently replying to one. Nice.
Is also an Ahelp Ninja, seriously... you'll only be able to answer an ahelp if he's currently replying to one. Nice.
Whatever
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Re: Okand37
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Hornygranny wrote:It's not your codebase. It's our codebase. You can imply soft power as much as you want, but you don't have it. Division between the server and project is absolute. I'm not interested in reading dezzmont platitudes for the billionth time and won't be checking back in this thread.
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Re: Okand37
Yes, because saying "Got told that didn't happen" is not true. I said what I saw and you said what you saw, I never told you that it didn't happen and you stating it like that is quite dickish because it's putting words in an admin's mouth that I didn't say. Taking your dumb salt to OOC and misleading the situation to basically shit talk is bogus.OOC: AnonymousNow: Derrick Cobb here. The real Derrick Cobb. I fistfought the legion (which was glitchily tiny, like bullet sized), got killed after getting a few good hits in, told that that didn't happen, cloned, killed again by another guy with a spear for no reason, brought back, then killed by a traitor in the morgue as I tried to put my clothes back on.
Notice that line about being "told that that didn't happen" up there? Apparently, it made Okand37 very cross.
Now, the intent of posting this bit of information was to share my experiences of the round with the other players, since many of them had been forced to have my face by a rogue geneticist (and people have a tendency to talk about what happened to them post-round if something interesting happened to them). There was that throwaway line about the Niknak discussion, since that was at the time ongoing, but it was a small, detailless part of an elsewhat intended post.
Admin PM from-Okand37: You can keep things to adminhelps, and you can have your disagreeances but don't bring it into OOC. Go read rule 6.
"Alright, then", I thought, "Since this mix-up in the circumstances surrounding my death is still unclear, I suppose I shall continue with in admin PMs, as requested in this message." So I responded with my best clue as to what could have gone wrong with the thing that killed me (and several other people).
Probably because taking your admin pm salt to OOC and intentionally misleading OOC as to what happened is shitty. Your follow up response claiming it was admins that did it is even better though, which is probably why you were muted right after.PM to-Admins: Y'know, I've only seen sprite size manipulation with admin intervention. I've seen missized sprites, yes, but nothing that's actually changed size while being observed unless an admin had a finger on a slider.
The conversation was pretty done, I wasn't going to revive you and I was busy hunting down 1 pixel sized legions. I then made a bug report, you taking it to OOC and saying shit that didn't happen is petty. They reacted by calling you out on your shit and simply switched to claiming it was admins that did it and you were surprised when muted? I fail to see how any conflicting info was given to you, you were muted because you put on your dumb tin foil hat, it wasn't even a chatban.To which Okand37 responded...
Admin PM from-Okand37: Since you don't seem to understand that ruling is final.
You have been muted from OOC by Okand37.
You have been muted from adminhelp, admin PM and ASAY by Okand37.
Let's skip past my obvious question of "What ruling?" to talk about what went wrong here.
- The admin weighed in on a situation that was being handled by another admin, by attempting to halt the conversation
- They reacted in a knee-jerk fashion when they saw me post about my round experience
- They gave me conflicting information, using my response - which was a course of action they appeared to recommend - as an opportunity to silence me with a chatban.
I'm not posting this in admin complaints because this is supposed to be feedback (and a complaint would get nowhere). It's not often that I run into situations with admins - I recall two other instances in my long time on the server - but I was very disappointed in the conduct of this particular admin, and hope that they can improve.
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Re: Okand37
As far as I was concerned or aware, that was what you said. If you're telling me that I misinterpreted what you said, then that's fine - I, as everyone, can misinterpret things sometimes, as has been demonstrated. It may have been due to being mildly annoyed by running into yet another glitch which caused my death, or because I was distracted due to being revived elsewhere in the middle of reading and typing responses.NikNakFlak wrote:~
This misunderstanding was covered.claiming it was admins that did it
Hornygranny wrote:It's not your codebase. It's our codebase. You can imply soft power as much as you want, but you don't have it. Division between the server and project is absolute. I'm not interested in reading dezzmont platitudes for the billionth time and won't be checking back in this thread.
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Re: Okand37
"You didn't say that, I just interpreted it as that you said that"
Nice
Nice
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Re: Okand37
Well, you did just clarify that that wasn't the case.NikNakFlak wrote:"You didn't say that, I just interpreted it as that you said that"
Hornygranny wrote:It's not your codebase. It's our codebase. You can imply soft power as much as you want, but you don't have it. Division between the server and project is absolute. I'm not interested in reading dezzmont platitudes for the billionth time and won't be checking back in this thread.
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Re: Okand37
I thought you were just salty but now I understand that you also might me dense too if you the reason you are upset is because "I perceived what you told me differently than the way it was exactly stated" and "you perceived what I said wrong from the way I stated it"
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Re: Okand37
Empty insults are not productive. And I wouldn't say I'm upset - more disappointed.
Also...
Also...
NikNakFlak wrote:I perceived what you told me differently than the way it was exactly stated and you perceived what I said wrong from the way I stated it
Hornygranny wrote:It's not your codebase. It's our codebase. You can imply soft power as much as you want, but you don't have it. Division between the server and project is absolute. I'm not interested in reading dezzmont platitudes for the billionth time and won't be checking back in this thread.
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Re: Okand37
Im sorry, would you prefer I speak in haiku from now on since clear sentences don't work.
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Re: Okand37
Welp, I tried. We're done here.NikNakFlak wrote:Straight-up insults
Hornygranny wrote:It's not your codebase. It's our codebase. You can imply soft power as much as you want, but you don't have it. Division between the server and project is absolute. I'm not interested in reading dezzmont platitudes for the billionth time and won't be checking back in this thread.
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Re: Okand37
my two cents, getting called salty and stating that you're not understanding a point of view isn't an insult.
passive aggressive yeah but not an insult, two different things.
what are some other admins' opinion on okand?
im standing by the general positive feedback still.
passive aggressive yeah but not an insult, two different things.
what are some other admins' opinion on okand?
im standing by the general positive feedback still.
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Re: Okand37
I don't often comment on other admin's feedback threads, but this dude is one of the best to come through.Mackerel wrote:what are some other admins' opinion on okand?
I actively try to be less shitty around him so I don't set a bad example.
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Re: Okand37
Even if what Okand did was totally incorrect, it would be such a tiny blip compared to all they are and all they do. I know for a fact without having to look it up that there's such blips with you, Anon, and you wouldn't want people to judge you based on those alone.
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Re: Okand37
Well, of course. It's rare that one piece of information would cause a complete turnaround in opinion on a person, and that was never intended to be the case. It was presented as a criticism, to be regarded alongside their other actions, and I, of course, have my critics.Hibbles wrote:Even if what Okand did was totally incorrect, it would be such a tiny blip compared to all they are and all they do. I know for a fact without having to look it up that there's such blips with you, Anon, and you wouldn't want people to judge you based on those alone.
As it stands, Okand reached out to me and we had a brief discussion about what happened. I'm satisfied with how it was resolved.
Hornygranny wrote:It's not your codebase. It's our codebase. You can imply soft power as much as you want, but you don't have it. Division between the server and project is absolute. I'm not interested in reading dezzmont platitudes for the billionth time and won't be checking back in this thread.
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Re: Okand37
You recent ban has mixed opinions by other admins and players.
A few admins and players definitely interpret the rules differently from you which kind of brings a jury on the table since nobody agrees to anything.
A few admins and players definitely interpret the rules differently from you which kind of brings a jury on the table since nobody agrees to anything.
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Re: Okand37
Understands that a "can valid, must valid, all valids" attitude is unhealthy for the server. I'm glad to see him as Headmin.
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Re: Okand37
If you're going to enforce things not in the rules, add them to the rules, even if they seem obvious to you.
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Re: Okand37
god bless this admin they're like owengo but good.
this is only a joke owengo please do not neuter me.
this is only a joke owengo please do not neuter me.
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Re: Okand37
Model admin. Works too much and needs a break.
10/10
10/10
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Re: Okand37
Holy shit, most polite admin in history of TG.
Remains inoffensive and cheery even when denying someone's ban appeal, something I've literally never seen.
Also gives great advice!
Remains inoffensive and cheery even when denying someone's ban appeal, something I've literally never seen.
Also gives great advice!
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Re: Okand37
Super duper nice on the forums. Which makes me wonder about the ohoho-ing anime girl in their profile.
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Re: Okand37
I thought it was cute!Fiz Bump wrote:Super duper nice on the forums. Which makes me wonder about the ohoho-ing anime girl in their profile.
Are you being the neighbour Mr. Rogers would've wanted you to be?
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Re: Okand37
Literally who?
Life is too short for anything meaningful and too long for anything memeingful
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Quality debate brought to you by ColonicAcid wrote:imagine having this little empathy
do you have autism bud? does your brain not see these people as humans? are they just a faceless statistic to you?
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Re: Okand37
stole the player vote from me
nah but for real you're cool
nah but for real you're cool
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i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
i have three other top secret characters as well.
tell the best admin how good he is
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Re: Okand37
This happened like a month ago, but I feel like I should post this.
I was given a dayban for killing other ashwalkers as an ashwalker, and tried to explain why I did it through in character means, but she shut me down on the basis that ashwalker was a team antagonist role, despite the lack of any real indication this is the case. Ashwalkers do not have an icon to indicate team antagonist status. Regardless, I tried to explain this but I was daybanned.
I honestly feel like Okand uses their own opinion to resolve issues rather then the actual rules, which is a very bad thing to do as an admin. I figured if I posted an appeal, I'd just get shut down by every person on the peanut gallery as a shitter, and nothing would get resolved, but I think that the ban, along with the deliberation, was totally wrong.
I was given a dayban for killing other ashwalkers as an ashwalker, and tried to explain why I did it through in character means, but she shut me down on the basis that ashwalker was a team antagonist role, despite the lack of any real indication this is the case. Ashwalkers do not have an icon to indicate team antagonist status. Regardless, I tried to explain this but I was daybanned.
I honestly feel like Okand uses their own opinion to resolve issues rather then the actual rules, which is a very bad thing to do as an admin. I figured if I posted an appeal, I'd just get shut down by every person on the peanut gallery as a shitter, and nothing would get resolved, but I think that the ban, along with the deliberation, was totally wrong.
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Re: Okand37
I remember something along the lines of you saying you killed them because 'they were weak and only the strong survive.' That isn't really considered IC justification for killing someone, especially in a team antagonist role. I informed you of ashwalkers being a team antagonist but you pressed on this being the reason, so I said you'd need to take a break and you did a 180 and completely changed the reasoning as to why you killed them.Poorman wrote:This happened like a month ago, but I feel like I should post this.
I was given a dayban for killing other ashwalkers as an ashwalker, and tried to explain why I did it through in character means, but she shut me down on the basis that ashwalker was a team antagonist role, despite the lack of any real indication this is the case. Ashwalkers do not have an icon to indicate team antagonist status. Regardless, I tried to explain this but I was daybanned.
I honestly feel like Okand uses their own opinion to resolve issues rather then the actual rules, which is a very bad thing to do as an admin. I figured if I posted an appeal, I'd just get shut down by every person on the peanut gallery as a shitter, and nothing would get resolved, but I think that the ban, along with the deliberation, was totally wrong.
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Re: Okand37
Okand37 wrote: I remember something along the lines of you saying you killed them because 'they were weak and only the strong survive.' That isn't really considered IC justification for killing someone, especially in a team antagonist role. I informed you of ashwalkers being a team antagonist but you pressed on this being the reason, so I said you'd need to take a break and you did a 180 and completely changed the reasoning as to why you killed them.
Ashwalkers AREN'T a team antagonist role, though. There's nothing to suggest they are, just because they spawn in the same place. They have no actual team goals besides a fluff post that doesn't specify cooperation at all when they spawn in which you can completely ignore anyways, because it doesn't mean anything. They are totally objectiveless, and have no team icon to indicate they are a team antag. Every other team antagonist role has icons to indicate who you are not allowed to kill and must cooperate with. Ashwalker is just a fuck around role for dead miners, and you're putting your own thoughts on what the role should be instead of what it really is. If you want them to be considered a team antag, put a team icon on them, give them actual objectives, and then you'd be right.
Last edited by Poorman on Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:57 am, edited 1 time in total.
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