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Re: Okand37

Post by Poorman » #232996

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Okand37 wrote: I remember something along the lines of you saying you killed them because 'they were weak and only the strong survive.' That isn't really considered IC justification for killing someone, especially in a team antagonist role. I informed you of ashwalkers being a team antagonist but you pressed on this being the reason, so I said you'd need to take a break and you did a 180 and completely changed the reasoning as to why you killed them.

Ashwalkers AREN'T a team antagonist role, though. There's nothing to suggest they are, just because they spawn in the same place. They have no actual team goals besides a fluff post that doesn't specify cooperation at all when they spawn in which you can completely ignore anyways, because it doesn't mean anything. They are totally objectiveless, and have no team icon to indicate they are a team antag. Every other team antagonist role has icons to indicate who you are not allowed to kill and must cooperate with. Ashwalker is just a fuck around role for dead miners, and you're putting your own thoughts on what the role should be instead of what it really is. If you want them to be considered a team antag, put a team icon on them, give them actual objectives, and then you'd be right.
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Re: Okand37

Post by onleavedontatme » #233003

>get killed by ash walkers
>immediatley respawn as one and start killing them
>okand hates muh rp
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Re: Okand37

Post by Poorman » #233008

It's not even a problem with RP. It's just an absolute lack of any indication that ashwalkers are a team antagonist role. If they are, it's absolutely unclear. There's just as much indication for changelings that you're supposed to work together.
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Re: Okand37

Post by Wyzack » #233036

Killing your fellow lizard because "Only the strong survive XDXXDXD" is on par with "I am just roleplaying my crazy murderer character XDXXDXD". Okand was entirely in the right, ghost roles have no rights but they are also not a license to grief
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Post by Screemonster » #233064

Don't literally all ghost roles have a blurb telling you what your ghost role is supposed to do and not do and what the theme of your role is?

Besides, there's precedent for ghost-role-banning people who teamkill as an ashwalker. I'm pretty sure there was a thing on the forums with a miner who got fucked by lizards, then joined as one and killed their tendril out of salt and ate a weekban for it.
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Re: Okand37

Post by PKPenguin321 » #233071

You guys, this isn't a ban appeal. This is okand's feedback thread.
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Post by Jembo » #233936

Deleted constructive criticism in a ban appeal because it wasn't along with what they ruled. Didn't delete the *peanut gallery posts* that aligned with their view. Only mine and one responding to mine, which was well worded, respectful and offered insight to a different view about the situation. Also did so after the thread was locked to which I can only guess was because they didn't like the context of my argument to the point that it didn't need to be viewed by others in that tread.
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Post by Okand37 » #233940

Jembo wrote:Deleted constructive criticism in a ban appeal because it wasn't along with what they ruled. Didn't delete the *peanut gallery posts* that aligned with their view. Only mine and one responding to mine, which was well worded, respectful and offered insight to a different view about the situation. Also did so after the thread was locked to which I can only guess was because they didn't like the context of my argument to the point that it didn't need to be viewed by others in that tread.
You posted after the appeal that you were unrelated to was concluded. It isn't that your opinion isn't respected, its that no one needed to post past after the decision was made so unrelated posts were cleaned up.
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Post by Jembo » #233942

But you didn't delete oranges post, TheColdTurtle's post, Saegrimr's post while an admin he really didn't have anything relevant to say. There was literally no reason to delete it outside the fact that you didn't like the context of what I typed after the thread was already locked.
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Post by Okand37 » #233943

Jembo wrote:But you didn't delete oranges post, TheColdTurtle's post, Saegrimr's post while an admin he really didn't have anything relevant to say. There was literally no reason to delete it outside the fact that you didn't like the context of what I typed after the thread was already locked.
They were before my post, not after. Hence why I said after the decision was made. I also did delete thecoldturtle's post that was after what I said.
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Post by Jembo » #233946

That makes zero sense, It's okay for others to shitpost in a thread just as long as it's before your post? But offer a well throughout post argument that differs from your opinion? Nope gotta go. Sorry 2slow. I can understand if I was shitposting but that wasn't the case.
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Post by Okand37 » #233947

Jembo wrote:That makes zero sense, It's okay for others to shitpost in a thread just as long as it's before your post? But offer a well throughout post argument that differs from your opinion? Nope gotta go. Sorry 2slow. I can understand if I was shitposting but that wasn't the case.
I apologise if I am not phrasing this clearly, but I did state the point beforehand. I was deleting posts that were unrelated as they didn't require to be there, as the decision was already made. The thread was intended to be locked but there was a communication error in who was supposed to be locking it. Tehsteveo later turned and locked it, and I cleaned up any posts between ours as they were not required.
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Re: Okand37

Post by Jembo » #233948

That still doesn't explain why my post was deleted, it was *cleaned up* but there wasn't anything to clean up. The thread was locked you should of just left it as is, nobody can interact with it. Other than the fact that you didn't like the context of my argument.
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Post by Okand37 » #233949

Jembo wrote:That still doesn't explain why my post was deleted, it was *cleaned up* but there wasn't anything to clean up. The thread was locked you should of just left it as is, nobody can interact with it. Other than the fact that you didn't like the context of my argument.
There wasn't really any issue with your argument, it was just intended to be locked after the decision was made so any posts past that point were cleaned up and removed. I'm awfully sorry if you feel this is against you personally, but it really isn't, it is simply a cleanup of unneeded posts as aforementioned. Hope that clears it up! : )
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Re: Okand37

Post by Copybass » #234085

Has suddenly gone from being cute star to angry mecha, hopefully hasn't snapped from having 4NR trash filling up their nice and happy feedback thread which would be bad because they make the forums a nice and happy place to be
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Post by Iatots » #234088

Seriously, I rely heavily on avatars to string post histories together in my mind. Please limit yourself to 1 (((one))) avatar with halloween and santa hat variants.
I am ok with you changing avatar if you suddenly become a dick tho.
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Post by lzimann » #234093

Iatots wrote:Seriously, I rely heavily on avatars to string post histories together in my mind. Please limit yourself to 1 (((one))) avatar with halloween and santa hat variants.
I am ok with you changing avatar if you suddenly become a dick tho.
You mean the person becoming a dick or the avatar being a dick?
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Post by TehSteveo » #234183

lzimann wrote:
Iatots wrote:Seriously, I rely heavily on avatars to string post histories together in my mind. Please limit yourself to 1 (((one))) avatar with halloween and santa hat variants.
I am ok with you changing avatar if you suddenly become a dick tho.
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Re: Okand37

Post by Haevacht » #234330

Made a station that has proper floor tiling in maint 0/10.

Also might be Agent 47's predecessor.

But seriously super nice and the like. It's unnerving but good. 10/10.
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Post by Cw3040 » #234463

A good person and a great admin/mapper. Polite even when shit on, any bans Ive had from her are justified and shit, overall 10/10 would marry gladly vote her in again
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Good person. We should suspend elections and keep these headmins indefinitely.
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Post by TheColdTurtle » #234531

So nice I can't tell if it is genuine or not.
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Post by Cw3040 » #234676

TheColdTurtle wrote:So nice I can't tell if it is genuine or not.
Might be fake.
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Post by peoplearestrange » #348471

Okand's back?! I might actually come back and play some more.
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Re: Okand37

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Remove Okand37
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Post by kevinz000 » #348974

Tsaricide is appalled by how nice okand is.
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Post by FrozenGuy5 » #349034

haven't seen a single pr yet from okand, this is disturbing.
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Post by Tsaricide » #349039

kevinz000 wrote:Tsaricide is appalled by how nice okand is.
peoplearestrange wrote:Okand's back?! I might actually come back and play some more.
Tsaricide wrote:Remove Okand37
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Post by cedarbridge » #349581

Far nicer than the Okand36 model
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Post by bman » #349597

Friendly.
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Post by Hathkar » #349621

Very professional, friendly, actually looks into ahelp issues, and provides feedback and suggestions while being understanding of people's perspective's without being harsh.

Promotion when?
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Post by Nilons » #349683

Hathkar wrote:Very professional, friendly, actually looks into ahelp issues, and provides feedback and suggestions while being understanding of people's perspective's without being harsh.

Promotion when?
June 26, 2016 apparently
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Post by Hathkar » #349729

Nilons wrote:
Hathkar wrote:Very professional, friendly, actually looks into ahelp issues, and provides feedback and suggestions while being understanding of people's perspective's without being harsh.

Promotion when?
June 26, 2016 apparently
To headmin, I mean.
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Post by lzimann » #349774

Hathkar wrote:
Nilons wrote:
Hathkar wrote:Very professional, friendly, actually looks into ahelp issues, and provides feedback and suggestions while being understanding of people's perspective's without being harsh.

Promotion when?
June 26, 2016 apparently
To headmin, I mean.
Yes, what we really need is them as headmin to quit after 2 months again.
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Post by Pascal125 » #349776

I think you're just jealous of Okand.
They're a great person and a great Admin.
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Post by Armhulen » #349834

If I give someone else headmin do I get gamemaster, or do I need to complete my term to get it

i guess not since okand's a game master if I recall correctly
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Post by lzimann » #349837

Armhulen wrote:If I give someone else headmin do I get gamemaster, or do I need to complete my term to get it

i guess not since okand's a game master if I recall correctly
Technically you would need to complete your term, and in the eventuality of being removed of the txt(not necessarily being kicked or anything) you wouldn't get GameMaster again, but I guess that was ignored/not being done anymore.
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Post by kevinz000 » #349870

Okand should be just nominated by headmin vote like kor was
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Hathkar wrote:
Nilons wrote:
Hathkar wrote:Very professional, friendly, actually looks into ahelp issues, and provides feedback and suggestions while being understanding of people's perspective's without being harsh.

Promotion when?
June 26, 2016 apparently
To headmin, I mean.
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Post by Arianya » #350142

Helped me out by porting me to thunderdome and spawning some gear when i wanted to test something out that would get me in trouble on the actual station!

Very helpful and good!
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Post by Rustledjimm » #350145

Is a brilliant admin who is always willing to help.

Honestly how do you stay so happy all the time in this cesspit?!
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Post by oranges » #350525

perhaps they start by not approaching it like it's a cesspit
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Post by MrStonedOne » #351076

Rustledjimm wrote:Is a brilliant admin who is always willing to help.

Honestly how do you stay so happy all the time in this cesspit?!
Every 6 to 9 months they quit for a year then come back.
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Post by CitrusGender » #359785

Extremely friendly and approachable. I've admined with them on a few shifts and they seem to be putting a lot of work in for a gamemaster (probably the only gamemaster I have seen play since Shadow.) Literally putting in as much effort into this game as some of my fellow Trialmins, obviously must have an endgame.
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CitrusGender wrote:Extremely friendly and approachable. I've admined with them on a few shifts and they seem to be putting a lot of work in for a gamemaster (probably the only gamemaster I have seen play since Shadow.) Literally putting in as much effort into this game as some of my fellow Trialmins, obviously must have an endgame.
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A3STH3T1CS wrote:
CitrusGender wrote:Extremely friendly and approachable. I've admined with them on a few shifts and they seem to be putting a lot of work in for a gamemaster (probably the only gamemaster I have seen play since Shadow.) Literally putting in as much effort into this game as some of my fellow Trialmins, obviously must have an endgame.
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Post by Rustledjimm » #365210

I'm just going to post in here after more time and experience as an admin.

I have not seen anyone more caring and helpful than Okand is online. They are always happy to help any other admins online with any issues they come across and is excellent at getting their view across to players so they understand exactly what has happened. If they have done anything wrong they posses a brilliant manner in getting across to the player why what they did was wrong so they actually understand and can avoid doing so again. I wish I could admin like this.

Also their gondola events are a lot of fun.
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