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Very rude tbqh I'm a good boyColonicAcid wrote:i hope shadow breaks a law and then gets a nice cold dish of irony
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Very rude tbqh I'm a good boyColonicAcid wrote:i hope shadow breaks a law and then gets a nice cold dish of irony
1. some people have a bad reaction to itMalkevin wrote:>Mostly Harmlessleibniz wrote:leave it to secborg players to defend legislations that were made to increase profit for the private prison industry and not question how its allowed to fuck up someone's life over a mostly harmless drug
ShadowDimentio wrote:Yeah back in the Jim Crow era, but those laws have long since been removed and these days the overwhelming majority of people in jail were put there for, y'know, doing something wrong.
It is a machine, it's actually more consistent since it has perfect timing and can cook many more burgers at once.CosmicScientist wrote:The burger flipping robot would be better as a machine than a robot. It has problems of cleaning up after itself, speed and consistent quality or even not dropping the burger. It'll always need a second staff member to take care of its oopsies and general mess that comes from making food. Fast food places tend to go down to a skeleton crew of two minimum and morale/motivation to do the job is going to plummet if you sit up one robot, one real person in the job, especially since communication isn't verbal but on a screen or even worse, on a phone app as even hospitals offload data input into those. It'd probably only exist alongside a gaggle of workers in high traffic locations at peak times unless the electricity really is worth nothing.
Burger in a box from a vending machine would be the ultimate form of automation, though the food quality & presentation will be even more suspect than a local chippy.
that sounds like bullshit, if they couldn't afford the dog they would just follow procedure like they do with all the other rejects and give them back to the breederScreemonster wrote:the latest social media explosion is some police department in illinois or some shit putting out some statement about how if the state legalised weed they'd have to put down their drug sniffer dogs
"keep letting us lock people up for this or the puppy gets it"
ShadowDimentio wrote:I used to believe in increasing the minimum wage but my economics professor explained in class once that doing that wouldn't help people not be poor.
Fuck no. Civil disobedience time. Or plain civil war. Either or really.Rustledjimm wrote:ShadowDimentio wrote:I used to believe in increasing the minimum wage but my economics professor explained in class once that doing that wouldn't help people not be poor.
If guns control was brought into law and you weren't allowed guns would you turn them in.
ShadowDimentio wrote:Fuck no. Civil disobedience time. Or plain civil war. Either or really.Rustledjimm wrote:ShadowDimentio wrote:I used to believe in increasing the minimum wage but my economics professor explained in class once that doing that wouldn't help people not be poor.
If guns control was brought into law and you weren't allowed guns would you turn them in.
ShadowDimentio wrote:Off ya got me, guess I gotta submit to tyranny then because they changed the laws.
If shit was worth something, poor people would be born with no assholeShadowDimentio wrote:I used to believe in increasing the minimum wage but my economics professor explained in class once that doing that wouldn't help people not be poor.
I don't get that phrase.Grazyn wrote:If shit was worth something, poor people would be born with no asshole
ShadowDimentio wrote:Weed is an illegal substance (except where it isn't). If you don't wanna get jailed for possession don't possess it in the first place.
ShadowDimentio wrote:Maybe so, but the law is the law and you're expected to follow it even if it is dumb. They knew what they were buying was illegal and if they got caught they'd be in trouble.
ShadowDimentio wrote:just don't break the same law three times.
ShadowDimentio wrote: they all knew what they were doing and that it was illegal. They made their bed so now they have to lie in it, as it were.
Do you think actually he doesn't realize or just flat out doesn't care if nothing he says is approaching consistentShadowDimentio wrote:Off ya got me, guess I gotta submit to tyranny then because they changed the laws.
Takeguru wrote:Minimum wage increases cause cost of living increases
If the average spending power increases, the average price increases as well
Noticeably worse in cities where the cost of living is already fucking ridiculous for the worse conditions you get
Several metastudies have shown that this is not true overall.ShadowDimentio wrote:I used to believe in increasing the minimum wage but my economics professor explained in class once that doing that wouldn't help people not be poor.
While it is true that you are still culpable for breaking a law even if you did not know it was against the law to do the thing you did (this is not a principal that came out of the Bush era and has nothing to do with national security) I'm going to need a citation on the "laws don't have to be public." Any law in the United States that fails to put on-notice the defendant as to what conduct is prohibited is per-se Void. This is distinct from mere ignorance of the law as every Title of the US code is on public display. Its pretty unlikely that any given person does or practically could sit down and memorize all of it, but the Justice system works on a presumption that if a person doesn't know if something is legal or not they can consult the publicly posted law records or consult a lawyer before doing whatever it is that might run aground with the law. Naturally this means that more complicated laws are more likely to run against people who cannot afford the ear of an attorney, but we have legal aid services in most states for that purpose. There's no provision in American law that empowers the government to pass laws and just forget to tell anyone about it until its time to throw people they don't like in jail.XSI wrote:Since the Bush presidency(Junior, the latest bush), laws do not necessarily need to be public because something something national security. Don't want to get arrested over a law you didn't know existed? Shouldn't have broken that law.ShadowDimentio wrote:Yeah back in the Jim Crow era, but those laws have long since been removed and these days the overwhelming majority of people in jail were put there for, y'know, doing something wrong.
Except increasing the minimum wage doesn't just do that, it also encourages automation. There's pretty much no minimum wage job that couldn't easily be done better with robots, the only reason it hasn't happened yet is because it's very slightly cheaper to continue hiring people. But that changes if you bump up minimum wage.XSI wrote:Takeguru wrote:Minimum wage increases cause cost of living increases
If the average spending power increases, the average price increases as well
Noticeably worse in cities where the cost of living is already fucking ridiculous for the worse conditions you getSeveral metastudies have shown that this is not true overall.ShadowDimentio wrote:I used to believe in increasing the minimum wage but my economics professor explained in class once that doing that wouldn't help people not be poor.
Or rather, it is only partially true- Minimum wage increases filter back into cost of living and average price by about ~5% of the wage increase, which still renders it a net improvement for the poor. Inflation doesn't come from this either, that's something else entirely and will always happen anyway.
Several studies have shown a price decrease, but they are outliers. At the same time, several studies had shown price increases of 50%+, but once again outliers. The majority had price increases of ~2% to ~8%
The ones who do have to worry are the middle class, who see no such improvement but do see the minor price increases. Once isn't a problem for them, twice isn't, but it adds up over time and if they're unlucky they'll find themselves being poor.
And no, I can't be arsed to look it up.
You don't have to take my word for it either, I'm just going to say that it doesn't work that way and then do something more productive
tl;dr Minimum wage increase does not make everything more expensive to the point of being counterproductive
Yeah, it's an odd single case about someone photographing an unmarked national security related building. I vaguely remember that this was a case and they were going to go to court and then...Nothing. No further information available on it, so I guess the media got bored and decided it wasn't important.cedarbridge wrote:(Stuff on non-public laws)
>Encouraging automationShadowDimentio wrote: Except increasing the minimum wage doesn't just do that, it also encourages automation. There's pretty much no minimum wage job that couldn't easily be done better with robots, the only reason it hasn't happened yet is because it's very slightly cheaper to continue hiring people. But that changes if you bump up minimum wage.
ShadowDimentio wrote:It is, but those minimum wage jobs aren't coming back once the hammer of automation falls, and then instead of them having a shitty job they'll have no job.
No I wouldn't you mongoloids.Screemonster wrote:in shadow's world if someone invented a fucking star-trek replicator and ushered in a new post-scarcity era where nobody had to work unless they wanted to, he'd call it a bad thing because it would eliminate jobs
ShadowDimentio wrote:No I wouldn't you mongoloids.Screemonster wrote:in shadow's world if someone invented a fucking star-trek replicator and ushered in a new post-scarcity era where nobody had to work unless they wanted to, he'd call it a bad thing because it would eliminate jobs
I mean neither of those things are untrue. Virtually nobody is employed as a farmer any more. The industry is infinitely more efficient, but farmers did lose their jobs when things got automated, which was my point.Rustledjimm wrote:Throughout the centuries jobs have slowly been automated. Everytime automation increases other jobs are opened up.ShadowDimentio wrote:It is, but those minimum wage jobs aren't coming back once the hammer of automation falls, and then instead of them having a shitty job they'll have no job.
You are the kind of person back in the 19th century shouting about how everyone will be out of a job if farming becomes more automated. All the tailors will be out of a job once factories start producing clothes faster and better. etc. etc.
1/4 of the worlds population is still employed in agriculture.ShadowDimentio wrote:I mean neither of those things are untrue. Virtually nobody is employed as a farmer any more. The industry is infinitely more efficient, but farmers did lose their jobs when things got automated, which was my point.Rustledjimm wrote:Throughout the centuries jobs have slowly been automated. Everytime automation increases other jobs are opened up.ShadowDimentio wrote:It is, but those minimum wage jobs aren't coming back once the hammer of automation falls, and then instead of them having a shitty job they'll have no job.
You are the kind of person back in the 19th century shouting about how everyone will be out of a job if farming becomes more automated. All the tailors will be out of a job once factories start producing clothes faster and better. etc. etc.
ShadowDimentio wrote:I mean neither of those things are untrue. Virtually nobody is employed as a farmer any more. The industry is infinitely more efficient, but farmers did lose their jobs when things got automated, which was my point.Rustledjimm wrote:Throughout the centuries jobs have slowly been automated. Everytime automation increases other jobs are opened up.ShadowDimentio wrote:It is, but those minimum wage jobs aren't coming back once the hammer of automation falls, and then instead of them having a shitty job they'll have no job.
You are the kind of person back in the 19th century shouting about how everyone will be out of a job if farming becomes more automated. All the tailors will be out of a job once factories start producing clothes faster and better. etc. etc.
Not all jobs are created equal sir, if a manufacturing plant closes and a McDonald's opens in their place then I'm not going to tell the former craftsmen "at least you have a job"Rustledjimm wrote:ShadowDimentio wrote:I mean neither of those things are untrue. Virtually nobody is employed as a farmer any more. The industry is infinitely more efficient, but farmers did lose their jobs when things got automated, which was my point.Rustledjimm wrote:Throughout the centuries jobs have slowly been automated. Everytime automation increases other jobs are opened up.ShadowDimentio wrote:It is, but those minimum wage jobs aren't coming back once the hammer of automation falls, and then instead of them having a shitty job they'll have no job.
You are the kind of person back in the 19th century shouting about how everyone will be out of a job if farming becomes more automated. All the tailors will be out of a job once factories start producing clothes faster and better. etc. etc.
>It's ok because with any jobs lost we always find new jobs
>YOU ADMITTED I WAS RIGHT JOBS ARE LOST
>ignores the part about new jobs
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