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[FantasticFwoosh]

Would gay bakers refuse a heterosexual cake supporting the legal marriage of man and wife?

[FantasticFwoosh]

It was rhetorical.

In my eyes its just bad business sense with misplaced pseudoethical morality.

[Takeguru]

This case started back in 2012, so "year" of the gay is a bit off

Decade of the gay?

[Screemonster]

It's a toughie, 'cause it's not just "refusing to sell a cake". It's refusing to put a particular message on the cake. It's closer to a newspaper or magazine turning down an advertisement that disagreed with their editorial policy.

iirc there was another bakery case not long ago that got spun into a big hoo-ha about "reeee muh right to refuse service" in the media and it turned out that the case wasn't about the bakers refusing to make a cake at all, it was a harassment case because the bakers doxed the couple on facebook and tried to get them run out of town for being gay, which is a little bit more clear cut than "they wouldn't make us a cake"

[Anonmare]

Technically a business can refuse service to someone without giving a reason and in most cases it's kosher

Ironically if they didn't give a reason they'd probably be fine

tbh it's just drama stirring for the sake of drama and it's why I refuse to be in any of the LGBTABCWXYZ-or-whatever communities because they're drama cesspools

[Anonmare]

And yet you're in the /TG/ community.

There's a difference between fucking faggots and being a fucking faggot.

And they're called being gay and being a member of this hecking community respectively

[Rustledjimm]

I should make it a rule 0 ban for anyone who capitalises /tg/.

[FantasticFwoosh]

I should make it a rule 0 ban for anyone who capitalises /tg/.

You'll need to talk to Oranges then on case of deliberately pushing PR's for profit & footfall

Spoiler:

Discord #tggeneral





god bless tired NZ shitposting

Not that there's typically anything particularly wrong with co-operative capitalism versus exploitative capitalism in my mind at-least.

[SpaceInaba]

brazilians are pure maidens do not contain them

[ohnopigeons]

US freezes funding for White Helmets after testimonies in the Hague. It only took 2 years.

Alternative British and French take on the testimonies.

[Ricotez]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/05/02/republican-lawmakers-nominate-donald-trump-nobel-peace-prize/573768002/



Not sure if these lawmakers actually believe in his bullshit, or if they just want to create a controversy. If anyone Moon Jae-in deserves the price for keeping his head cool while Trump was spouting bile on Twitter and trying to keep communications open with the north.

Then again Obama won it in his first year before having proven anything, and Aung San Suu Kyi won it and later became responsible for a genocide. So maybe attacking free speech and the judicial power in his own country and threatening to start a nuclear war won't stand in Trump's way of winning.

Meanwhile there's still no Nobel price for computing science.

[FantasticFwoosh]

Then again Obama won it in his first year before having proven anything, and Aung San Suu Kyi won it and later became responsible for a genocide. So maybe attacking free speech and the judicial power in his own country and threatening to start a nuclear war won't stand in Trump's way of winning.

Double negative, if you're criticizing Trump for recieving a Nobel peace prize but in the same breath devalue its worth by noting people who received it for even less or questionable contribution than him then what actual reason do you have to be mad about it other than to slam Drumpf for being Drumpf?

[Grazyn]

If Trump wins the prize he will be the first WWE hall of famer to win a nobel prize

[XSI]

Fun fact- The nobel prizes aren't based on merit, they're based on whoever is popular in a field as decided by a bunch of old guys with specific opinions.
This is tradition for it, going back all the way to Mr Nobel, who decided to just award his friends and people he liked.
There is no real criteria for them, just as long as the committee that decides who gets a prize believes you should get one.

But that said, I hope he gets one just so the clownshow can continue. Honk honk

[XSI]

Probably, yes

Any excuse to keep shit going, at this point it's a bunch of people just doing it because they can

[FantasticFwoosh]

I wonder if i could just bribe the committee and get a nobel peace prize mailed to me by post.

[Anonmare]

This is why other people ruin people for me.

Matrioshyka Brain so I don't have to deal with other people when?

[XSI]

Basically, yes
If you manage to bribe them well enough, you're getting a nobel prize.
Just need to have some vague excuse of an achievement to get it

[DemonFiren]

This is why other people ruin people for me.

get on my level
I ruin people for me

[Grazyn]

Basically, yes
If you manage to bribe them well enough, you're getting a nobel prize.
Just need to have some vague excuse of an achievement to get it

Well at least it certifies how good you are in the field of bribery.
A useful skill nonetheless

[FantasticFwoosh]

Well at least it certifies how good you are in the field of bribery.
A useful skill nonetheless

I have skill 100 pickpocketing, its no issue to take the money back when you go to look at another NPC.

[Grazyn]

The funny thing is, Trump would win the Nobel prize in shystering anyway

[The Clowns Pocket]

What CRAAAAAAAAAAZY thing is Donald "Hitler" Trump doing today?

[DemonFiren]

politics and pickpocketing go well together
at 100 you can strip vast swathes of the population of their rights and no one will notice

completely unrelated, npr has called kanye west a sentient reddit thread and it made me laugh

[cedarbridge]

So maybe attacking free speech and the judicial power in his own country and threatening to start a nuclear war

Yes, I'm sure that's why he's being nominated. You gotem.

[Grazyn]

politics and pickpocketing go well together
at 100 you can strip vast swathes of the population of their rights and no one will notice

completely unrelated, npr has called kanye west a sentient reddit thread and it made me laugh

I remember during the last campaign when trump supporters were trumpeting the black support demonstrated by Blacks For Trump



The hundredth time I saw it I got curious so I visited the site http://www.gods2.com/

Turns out the guy was an actual deranged nutjob and it had absolutely nothing to do with blacks supporting trump

[Malkevin]

Nobel was the inventor of tnt, the peace prize came about as they thought that such destructive power would bring an end to war.

I suppose they weren't wrong though, just several decades too early and the wrong big stick.

So trump getting one for threatening to nuke the yellow monkeys isn't out of the ordinary

[Lazengann]

I thought he made the peace award because he felt so bad for inventing TNT and causing massive loss of life

[Malkevin]

Apparently you're more likely to survive a gun shot than a stab wound.

That's probably low cal pistols and not high power rifles I'd guess

[Grazyn]

Apparently you're more likely to survive a gun shot than a stab wound.

That's probably low cal pistols and not high power rifles I'd guess

well you are not going to survive a stab from a WASP knife, that's for sure

[XSI]

Lets be entirely fair here
If everyone had a gun, we'd not have a lot of knife crime anymore

So technically..

[ShadowDimentio]

Britfags trying to ban/regulate knives is fucking hysterical though. Good fucking luck banning sharpened pieces of metal.

[lntigracy]

The entire point of the second amendment is to protect against a government that would take the second amendment rights away.

[ShadowDimentio]

Same to you with guns. I'd probably be jumping ship if I knew I had the job to collect up firearms in Murica, either for what wouldn't be picked up and me later blamed for or for the public response.

Guns are pretty easy to make with the right know-how but knives are literally impossible to ban. They're as low tech as low tech can be, they're one step above hitting someone with a rock (hitting them with a sharp rock). I have no idea how you clowns think that it would ever work.

[Takeguru]

Yeah, knife bans are ridiculously easy to work around and would ultimately only fuck over people who actually need them for work

Unless you're going to apply exceptions and oh no suddenly your law fell apart

[Rustledjimm]

I find it interesting that Americans seem to think that battle to the death with weapons is something just around the corner everyday.

I have never been in a situation where a weapon would have improved my situation in any way.

[ColonicAcid]

i wanna know your opinions on this contemporary art

[lntigracy]

I find it interesting that Americans seem to think that battle to the death with weapons is something just around the corner everyday.

I have never been in a situation where a weapon would have improved my situation in any way.

I've been mugged by basketball Americans and would have avoided a trip to the hospital had I had my firearm or taser at that point

[Super Aggro Crag]

I dont understand people like "youre not going to be have a battle to the death every day why u so paranoid gun owners lol" then go "DUDE NO ONE CAN HAVE A GUN OR EVERYONE WILL GET SHOT EVERY DAY"

Like

Which one is true

[FantasticFwoosh]

When statements are loosely thrown out like that there's little credibility that either is accurate. Its only up to you to determine and see the truth for what it is but i don't live close enough to the USA to be able to make a assessment.

[ShadowDimentio]

I find it interesting that Americans seem to think that battle to the death with weapons is something just around the corner everyday.

I have never been in a situation where a weapon would have improved my situation in any way.

It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

[ColonicAcid]

Thats also the reasoning people from the hood use for why they have guns even if theyre on parole.

Best to be caught with it than without it.

[Rustledjimm]

I dont understand people like "youre not going to be have a battle to the death every day why u so paranoid gun owners lol" then go "DUDE NO ONE CAN HAVE A GUN OR EVERYONE WILL GET SHOT EVERY DAY"

Like

Which one is true

Except I never said the latter did I? I don't think everyone will get shot if we guns were easily available.

Just roughly 4x the current number of people would get shot and children getting shot up in their schools would become a regular news coverage.

I mean we haven't had a school shooting in over two decades now.

[ShadowDimentio]

Knives aren't one step up from hitting someone with a rock or even a sharp rock. Try telling that to the Aztecs. They're also not low tech unless you think stainless steel is something you'll make perfectly fine in your back garden or do you work kilns the same as you strike flint until you get a sharp but fragile and irregular edge?

You don't need stainless steel to make a knife big guy. You can sharpen a piece of garbage scrap metal into a knife using just basic equipment and knowledge. Or anything else for that matter, a shank can be made out of any sharp material that can hold its shape long enough to stab someone at least once.

[Rustledjimm]

If you can only stab once that isn't as bad as being able to shoot a classroom full of people.

[Grazyn]

[Malkevin]

Oh dear, better not outlaw knives guys, someone might go to a scrap dealer for a scrap of building material then buy a metal brush, some heat proof working gloves, a welder, a grinder, a vice, spend a while with a file, then a hand saw designed for metal, then a lot more filing, then a professional metal sander of sorts followed by whatever that fire laden dipping is... oh and let's not forget the time spent on the handle. Bravo, you've made it impossible to enforce any law with that logic.

I feel you're putting gang members on too high a pedestal if you think the people who'll stab a man on the regular are the same as the people who have the money let alone the skills to do metal and wood working.

If you can only stab once that isn't as bad as being able to shoot a classroom full of people.

Sorry it's their tradition and stopping it would be culturally insensitive.

Criminals already make homemade machetes from sheet metal and an angle grinder

[ShadowDimentio]

Oh dear, better not outlaw knives guys, someone might go to a scrap dealer for a scrap of building material then buy a metal brush, some heat proof working gloves, a welder, a grinder, a vice, spend a while with a file, then a hand saw designed for metal, then a lot more filing, then a professional metal sander of sorts followed by whatever that fire laden dipping is... oh and let's not forget the time spent on the handle. Bravo, you've made it impossible to enforce any law with that logic.

I feel you're putting gang members on too high a pedestal if you think the people who'll stab a man on the regular are the same as the people who have the money let alone the skills to do metal and wood working.

You're arguing in favor of trying to regulate something that people in fucking PRISONS find ways to make. You don't need to go anywhere near the lengths that dude in the video went, all you need is a sharp edge/point and a decent grip like a sock and bam you have a weapon that can kill several people. Are you REALLY prepared to give up all the personal liberties it would take in order for the UK to try and regulate something as tightly as a prison?

[Rustledjimm]

>make point about number of shooting deaths is far higher and a clearly endemic issue of the u.s
>LOL BUT U BAN KNIVES

[ShadowDimentio]

The number of shooting deaths is overwhelmingly from suicides and inner city gangsters killing other gangsters. Mass shootings make up an entirely insignificant amount of total shooting deaths, the only reason people talk about them is because the media fucking won't shut up about them and it's an excellent talking point for anti-gun campaigners.