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Re: Military power

Post by NikNakFlak » #66623

Bottom post of the previous page:

I didn't feel like purging half the thread, even if it was off topic, it would fill half a page with deleted stuff.

Back on topic: Why don't we have more subs in America? Also noting, this chart doesn't take into account equipment or training and other various things. I guess because it's military, it's hard to measure that.
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Re: Military power

Post by Steelpoint » #66624

I'm more interested in exactly why North Korea apparently has the most submarines in the world.
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Re: Military power

Post by paprika » #66630

Or they're lying, I mean, how would you even find that out when they spew so much propaganda
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Re: Military power

Post by Ricotez » #66634

You shouldn't underestimate North Korea. And I don't mean their military force, of course there is no way they could match the USA. I mean that there is a very good reason why they're the laughing stock of the world. They have every intention of leaving it that way, because they know they would never win an actual armed conflict with the USA. But as long as we think they're funny, we won't try to free the many, many people there who are oppressed on a daily basis.
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Re: Military power

Post by Steelpoint » #66636

While North Korea would not be able to stand up to a invasion, they are more than capable of inflicting critical damage to South Korea. They position a LOT of artillery near the border and Seoul is not that far from the boarder.

From what I know most parties are content with the status quo. China uses them as a buffer state against the US and its allies, in addition if NK fell then China would be swamped with a lot of refuges, South Korea's economy would be ruined if it reunited with the North and the US can use NK as a good reason to have troops established in the region.
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Re: Military power

Post by Loonikus » #66640

Nobody really wants to free them at this point. Think about it. If you were in charge of South Korea, would you really want to suddenly have to take care of millions of starving, brainwashed fuggin gommies? Hell no.

If or when the Korean War starts back up, I doubt the NK army will even make it past the first line of auto-turrets on the DMZ. I think the worst losses will be the artillery strikes on the South Korean capital.
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Re: Military power

Post by dezzmont » #66664

Also rebuilding North Korea wouldn't destroy the southern economy. That is a misuse of the broken window fallacy, we generally see in history unification between countries play out extremely well in an economic sense.
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Re: Military power

Post by Malkevin » #66669

I think nk has a huge fleet of midget subs, hence the large number
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Re: Military power

Post by Loonikus » #66671

That makes sense. If the first Korean War was any indication, they really take more of a "quantity is quality" approach to things.
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Re: Military power

Post by srifenbyxp » #66846

I figure back when AmeriCANs took over mexico in 1840s that we could had annex mexico and had made it lower America. Could had won over canada roughly the same era but got over confident and fucked up. But I believed congress said nope to that at the time for the mexico issue, need to dig around for more information but that's just my speculation of things.
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Re: Military power

Post by Kavaloosh » #66871

Violaceus wrote:Beating and especially conquering another country is not as simple as "who have better military" and I see it is always missed in retarded threads USA vs EU on 4chan.
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Re: Military power

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Violaceus wrote:USA could very probably beat Spain for example, but keeping that land would not be possible in long term.
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Kavaloosh wrote:
Violaceus wrote:USA could very probably beat Spain for example, but keeping that land would not be possible in long term.
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Re: Military power

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Violaceus wrote:USA could very probably beat Spain for example, but keeping that land would not be possible in long term.

edit: it was a response to kavalosht before he edited his post
i never edited my post though
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Post by Kavaloosh » #66880

Violaceus wrote:Oh, right.

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Re: Military power

Post by Kavaloosh » #66884

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Re: Military power

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Re: Military power

Post by Drynwyn » #67312

Has anyone actually SEEN North Korea's "submarines"?

I suspect they might be ducks.
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Re: Military power

Post by Loonikus » #67314

Drynwyn wrote:Has anyone actually SEEN North Korea's "submarines"?

I suspect they might be ducks.
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Re: Military power

Post by ColonicAcid » #67350

They have a fuckton of midget submarines.
That's why they have so so many "submarines." They're literally there for them to send with one/two persons and fire one or two torpedos and hope to god the ship sinks.
Probably won't work though.
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Re: Military power

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Re: Military power

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Re: Military power

Post by Timbrewolf » #67825

Steelpoint wrote:I'm more interested in exactly why North Korea apparently has the most submarines in the world.
Well see they used to have that many warships but they inevitably sank because >North Korea

So they decided, in true NORK fashion, to claim they were submersibles.
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Re: Military power

Post by Incomptinence » #67879

Well googling it told me they are actually semi-suberible boats designed for infiltration and maybe those kidnappings they used to do. Basically what would happen if a uboat fucked a speed boat.

Being cunts they arm them but they are hardly military craft and my guess is they are just armed to force destruction of the boat if confronted by actual navy or coastguard. Some more submariney some more speedboaty, basically made for sneaking.
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Re: Military power

Post by Comrade Leo » #67886

I'm going to go out on a limb and say they are used for suicide frogmen when the US decides to park it's fleet in the yellow sea.
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Post by rdght91 » #85692

Comrade Leo wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb and say they are used for suicide frogmen when the US decides to park it's fleet in the yellow sea.
Maybe that's the theory, but it's pretty doubtful that North Korea has enough competent frogmen to carry out such an operation. Combat swimmers are pretty much the most expensive and difficult to train special forces there are. Look how long, expensive and difficult the training pipeline for one singular US Navy SEAL, and those guys are generalists that have only conduced one known successful combat swimmer mission, and it came pretty close to going horribly wrong (almost got ran over by a cargo ship). North Korea though has used minisubs to attack South Korean shipping harbors/lanes and kidnap South Koreans/Japanese civilians. It's a far cry from doing it against the US Navy though.
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