"Feminism"

[Incomptinence]

Bottom post of the previous page:

I need to admit fermists have a pretty good point though, where are all the aliens?

[Ricotez]

it's honestly better if these threads become shitpost threads, else these arguments go the same way every time which is right down in the dumpster

[MrStonedOne]

What? off topic? We can't have that!

Let me just empty quote the only on topic thing said to bring us back on topic.

How do you define 'slowing technological process' when 200 years ago we were using shitty muskets and swords, 200 years further back your just using swords, 200 years back your still using swords, etc. Yet 200 years past 1800 we suddenly have many great things like the Internet where idiots can shitpost.

If restricting women's rights equalled greater technological progress then places like Saudi Arabia (or middle east in general) would be the leaders in technological advancement.

I don't accept that advancement can only be attributed to single factors, there's more to it than just one or two things you can point to.

It's actually the reverse. Feminism requires technological advancement. Nobody excluded from having to work is gonna argue they should all enter the workforce when the workforce is dangerous and requires a lot of effort.

Men would be the same way in the reverse situation.

"Ok honey, you go off and break your back and risk death or major injury to put of roof over our heads, I'll stay here and clean the house and cook dinner"

It wouldn't be, "Hey, the fact that only you are allowed to risk death and major injury is oppressing me"

Because the fact of the matter is, in that situation, it's the one who's expected to put their life and physical wellbeing on the line purely because of their gender that's oppressed.

[Steelpoint]

What? off topic? We can't have that!

Let me just empty quote the only on topic thing said to bring us back on topic.

[Zilenan91]

Perhaps right now is a good time to list my favorite pasta recipe.

Noodles/spaghetti
Warm water
1 packet of brown gravy
1/4 tbspoon of salt
1/4 tbspoon of pepper
Mayonnaise
Mustard
Brown Sugar
2 Eggs

What you do is get a bowl, and fill it with the warm water. Once you've done this, you want to add noodles sparingly so that you don't flood the bowl. Now what happens next is something I personally like to do with my pasta. What I like to do is to take a bit of mayonnaise and a bit of mustard, and mix a small amount of it in with the brown gravy, stirring for about 5 minutes. Once stirred and mixed, judiciously add salt and pepper sprinkles to the top of it to give it a nice seasoning. Once done, pour your mixture into the bowl full of spaghetti noodles and warm water. The next step is optional, but consider adding a good portion of brown sugar into the mixture you have as it adds flavor. After this, reach into the fridge, crack open two eggs, and add these as well. Once the eggs are in, you must mix the concoction you've created for roughly 5-10 minutes or once it gains a black coloring and a sludge-like texture.

Once you've done that, you must then journey into the deepest reaches of The Forest, and converse with the spirits for The Mushroom. Once there, they will tell you to search within the recesses of the Eldercave. Make your way there, and on the outside, you will see a stone face carved within the side of the front entrance to the cave. What happens next is absolutely crucial. If the eyes of the face are open, you must immediately freeze upon coming no more and no less of five feet away from the face, and you must be facing away from it. You will eventually hear a low buzzing noise, upon which you must close your eyes lest your soul be snuffed out into oblivion. What happens next is most commonly described as a feeling of invasion, as the spirits within the Eldercave probe your very being for any taints of D̸̴̹̮̣̘̘͈͚̎ͬ̇̃͗͒ͪ̊ĕ̜̩̗̬̄ͨ͗ͫ̈̚͞͝f̞̥ͨ̒̓͟i̻̜̻͎͍͎̫̾̈̀͊̇͗ͅa͙̙̭͚̳̰͕̿ͥͣn̛͕̞̩̞̰̖̳̓̇̽c̣̰͙̮͚̹͊͑ͮ̄͑̓ͤ́ë̢́͌̌ͤ͑҉̭̼͜ ̹̙̫̓̔̇̄̌͘a̫̬̖͖̞͙̙̾ͦ͊ͣ̊̑̾̚͡͞n̍͊ͦ͟҉̮͚d̠͇̼͈͑̍̋ͭ̐̑ ̡̛̥̼͈̫̜ͭ̔͗̏I͔͚̲̳̣̬͋ͮͦ̀̓n̝̘͖̜̺̤̊̄͆̽ͨ͢ͅn̝͌̄̉͐u̶̻̻̩̮͖̞̩̜ͮͬ͘͝nͧ̏ͤ̔͐ͮ͏͈̯̖̯̬͎́ͅî̶̙͉̺ͨ͝ͅț̪̩̺̭̝̽̏ͨ̉ͪ̑ͧ̊y̸̛͇͔̺̜̟͈͚ͭ̐ͅ as the inner recesses of your mind cͩͣͤͥͫ̐r͉͉̍ͩu̸͔̘̭̞͉̫̻̐̐̏͛̂m͙̤͙̼͍̥ͅb͔̭̦̙l̹̹ͯ̇̓͆̍e̡͖͔̍͐́̃̃̏ into recesses unknowable by humankind as H̪͙̙͕̘̻͚͖̍̒̊ͩ͂͟Ę̺͖̭͉̤̼͎͓͑͒͑̀̌̈̓͝ ͎̙͖̗̱̊̿̀̚͢C̱͖̺̺̠̰͐̓ͯͨͪ̔̾̇̐O͑̍҉͇͚͚̞̝͚ͅM̴͓̱͖̖̘̫̯̅̓̈́̆̋͋ͣ̑E̩͕̭̪̖ͦ͆̈́̽S̆̓͐̾̋ͨ͂̚҉͎̣̫ ͇̲̞͉̉̃ͤ͌͑̽ͯ͠Ḩ͍̻̯̘̦ͭ̃̅ͣͦ̽̏͘Ȅ͇̯̟̄̍ͦͦ͌ͭ͘͜ ͌̉҉̼̟͔̩̤W̉̓̈́͋̓̈ͩ͏̻͕͈̙͈̤͠Áͯ̋̂ͬ͐҉̴̺͚T̸̠̝ͪͤ͒ͮ̈̄̋̐͟C̶̡̧͕͙̹͙̬̣̲͎ͤͩ̅ͦ͊̋̓ͭͯH͕̩̰̑̓̀̉̿͆ͅẸ̡͕̜͇ͭS̳̻̗̒̈̌ͣ̌̐͒ͩ̄͡ ̴̦̫ͨ͠H̵̗̙̘̔̃͌̃̑͞ͅE̸̢̯̹̭ͦ̑͛̈ͮͪ ̆͛͗ͫ͊ͦͤ̊͏̵҉̥̮̤̲̥̥̺̜̯K͉̩̣̈́̽̈́̔̓̚̕͠N̸͓͓͖͔̰̦̫̪͛̿͗̓́͢ͅO̭̬̪̺͔̗̞̝̅̈̽̾́͢W̦̲̲̰̣̝̜̞̝͛́ͯ̂͐̽̉ͬS̬̼̪͎͔̥̐̊̇̂ͭ̎ ̸̋̆͊̒̿ͨ͜͏̞̪̣̟͔O̫̦͍̬͉̲͖͔̞̊̊ͭ̋̇F̡̨͙̺͎̾̈́̎̄̄̒̚ ̶̰͓̼͚̯̘̺ͩ͊̔T̪͈̲͎̱̼̟͖̙͐̍̔͗ͬ̚̕͠H̢̢̧̺̗̻́̎͐̎͊̚E̢͎̰̻͙̿̊̉ͣ́͘͠ T̶̶̛͕̯̹̮̪̺͈̂ͦ̌̀͋́̅͛̕ͅH̷̪̙̠̫͙̔̈́ͣͦͭ͆̊ͨ̆̌̓̚͢͢͠͡Ỏ̴ͣͩ̀ͫ̄̾̍ͯ҉̺͓̦̬̬͇̜͚͓͈͙̣̯̩̳U̢̪̻͇̮̻̓̔ͣ̿̄̈ͦ̓͗ͯͭ̌͋ͫͪ̋ͫ́̔̕͘͡͞G͓͇̮̫̰͈̟͍̹̯͔̬̠̞͊̈́̉̃ͯ̉̓ͣ͋̄ͤ̍͒ͯͩ̾͆ͨ̀͞H̬͖̤̯͗̿̏̒ͦ̏͆͢͟͢͜T̵̨̼̖̗̭̺͈͉̥̬͚̖̯̤̠̻̜̙̝̋ͧ̑ͥ̉̀͢͞S̷̨̭͖̫̞̼̀̏̓́̓͗̑̽̒͌̉͂̽ͭ̉̊̚ ̡͕̬͈̯̭̩͖̥̞̗̺̟̫̟̠̣͍̲͐͌ͫͧ̐̍ͦͮ̍ͮͨͤ̀̿́̚͟͡ͅŐ̴͇̰͉̖̘̱͉̫͚͓̼̠͈̮̓́͋̾̂ͩ̊͌͝F̷̛̛̤̘͖͔̱̭̳͔̹̞̿͌͑̓̀̈́͌͂̊̓̈́̂̾̄̿ͧ̎ ̵̸͇̤̯̙̹̭͓̘͕ͣ̽ͯ̄ͦ̒̍͛̎̚͞P̷̙̬̬̮͍͙͎̝̭̳̤͍̝̩͎̘̽̄ͨ̒̏ͣͬͤ̊́̀͢͞U̢̫͕͈̯̫̠̯͉̤̮̪̰̟̲̼̠̤̻͈ͦ̑ͯ̂̾͛ͤ͘͞N̸̵̨͙̳̲͔̩̣͉̆̎ͦ̓̕͜I̵̛͕̘̯̜͉̟̥͓͙̩͇̘̟̙̣̖͎̾͋͋̿̏̕͝ͅT̢̅͊̚͏͍̻̼̝̫̺̳͔̫͙̦͉̜͕̠̝̖̬Y̵̡̩̰̥̹̞̰̺͕̩͕̗̦͙̼̲ͣͮͭ̆ͪ̊̿̅̂́̊ͦ̒̈͂̓ͥ̂͛̀͠͝ ̷̶̬͔͉̥̦̹̻̹͎̠̙̂̅̂̓ͮ̊͛ͨ͋̀̈́̏ͬͩ͌́̚͜͠Ȧ̙͔͉̣͕͔͓͈ͬ̍̔̑̀̾̃ͩ̄͑̐ͦ̀̚͠Ņ͕̫̭͇̝ͤ̋͆̂͋ͫ̏ͬͣͩ͆ͬ̓̚D͓̹̬̬̬̼̣̦͕͍̟̤̲̋̀̃̊ͣͤ͊́́ ̸̨͚͎̖͓̟̂̅͒̍̍͗̇ͦ͑̇̂ͦ̀͠E̷̷̡̡̱͚̣̠̜͔͉̜̯̮̪̯͍͌̏̀̋̊ͤ̔ͩ̎̎̎N̴̍̾̃̎͌̓̆̇̾ͪͥ̏̚͠҉̵̤̳̗ͅD̶̨̜̙͇̣͓̱̣̱̆̌̂̅ͭ͗͒̂̍͜N̴̪͈̼̠͙̄̋̑̊ͦ́͜͡I͐͑̊ͦ͂̈̊ͭͬ͒ͣ̋́̂̓ͪ͌̚͏͏̦̜̭̹̗G̫̤̗̙̠̰̮̤̼̯̫̺͔̻ͩ̑ͯͯͩͭ̀͝ͅH͑̅̂͒ͭ̿ͦͧ̾̓͌̈̓̚͏̷́̕͏̭͕̻̻͙T̵̵̨͖̱̞̘̫̖̹̼̟̊̒̂ͧ̂̿ͫ͡
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̵̗̗̙͇̥̪̖͔͎͍̑̈́̀̊ͩ̂͋̾̋̊͌ͧ̄͌ͭ̐ͤ̀͝͝͠H̀͋̌͒̎̎ͮͫ͝҉̵̛̲̯̗̦̦̯͞Ȋ̵ͫ́̓͑̍͒͆̃͊̏̓͗͂̎ͥͩ̀҉͎̪̺̺͖̲̖̲͎̥͜Şͣ̌̌҉̸̳̗̤̗̩͍̳̮̦͙͇̮̤̦͉̬ ̷͎̭̺͍͍͈̪͎̗͕̳̗̝͓̮̜̝͈͍̒̀̆ͮ̉̓ͯ͝R̂̌ͣ̍̇̋͐͊ͨ͑͌͂͆̔̑͂̅̒̓͏͏̵̢͙̦͎͎̰̖̘͚̹͔I̳̩͖͕ͤ̂̿̐̈͢͟D̷̨̨͚͖̘͉̥̙͎̘̦̯͑͊͛̅̈ͤͯ̿̓̓̌̚͜͜Ẻ̷͔̙̟̹̣̟͓̺̱̬͊͗́̚ͅR̡̛̛̯̬̜͇͆̏ͩͯ̽͋̇̀̓̈̔̊̀͞S̟̪̟̻͖͙̹͙ͣͭ̀ͣͤ̔ͤ͋̀͘ ̧̐̓͛ͤ̍̇͋̑̿̿͗͗̍̈̎ͫ҉̵̳͖̖̥̥̲̦̖̜͇̣ͅC̤̯͔̣̜̻̪̟̲͛ͫ̐̔͋ͨ̕͜Ǫ͕̯̥̖̃͑̋͒̓͂ͣ̉̍ͥͧ́̉͌́͠Ṃ̬͔̙̱̪̟̥̼̻͎̖̲ͯ̏̎͆̄̐̉͆ͨ̾ͭ̚͟ͅĘ̷̭̙͇̘̻͖̻̩̳̳̙̦͉͙̤̤̖͖̟ͦͭ͛ͨ́̄̎͘͞͠ ̷̱͍͉͕̗̤̟̳͔̹̥̰̻͈͎̿̒͂ͤ̂̿͒ͭ͛ͤ͡ͅͅF̵̷̛̫͍̺͎͚̳͉̜̜͑ͨ̎͆͊̔ͥͫ̀͊͌̀̇̈̄͢Ỏ̶̶̡̻̬͕̹̘̼̟͍̱͙̳͇̞̳ͩ̇ͪͣͣ̀͠͠R̴̢̛͔͚͓͖͙̬̬͙̜̭̤̲̻ͮ̾ͦ̒ͦͩͭ́ ̸̸̨̗͇̱̩͕̠͉̮̩̲̣̬͇̮̏͐ͦ̓̂̍̃͑ͭ̊̓͌͆͋̍̀̌͋̃́Yͪ̐̽̈́̾͋̃̾ͤͧ̽̓̒͂͆ͨ̽̚҉̵̸̛̼͉̯̞̝̦̬͚͕Ơ̶̵̲̫͉̬̥̲͔͚̞̝͕̠̺͚̬̟͚̿̄ͧ́Ů̡̡̗̝͍͇̈̾̃̇̆͂ͯ̈ͮͤ̆̔ͥ̓̚ ̵̘̘̲̩̝̬͎̮̲͓̾̔̂͊͡Ơ̶̴͍̝̠͈̰̹̖̻͚̼̟̞̠̌̂ͨ̍ͨͣ͋̅̿̍ͪ̿͌̌́ͩͬ͆̎͜N̢̔̐̾̂͆̄ͧ̽̉̓̅̌ͫ̀͏̪̟̗̰͇̩͇͕̯̣̹̟̹͙ ̷̸̢̛̭̰̦̫̫͓̈́ͥ̍͢ͅŢ̨̢͍͓͔̭̺̰͖͍̯͈̝͇͉̰̣̫̼̭͌ͣͣ͂̒̑̒͂ͦ̌͒̍̚ͅH̴̷̷̡̼̬̪̰͙̮̳̦̼͖̠͖̣͙̼̼̝̑̎̎̂́͒̿ͧͩ̈́͒̒̎̐́ͩ̕Ȩ̛̼͚͈̲̠̙͇͑̎̅̊ͦ̆͆̉̊̅̕͢ ̌̔̅̄̍̀͗́͐ͦ̂̄̐ͬ̈́̽͂ͥͨ́̀͜͞͏̼̪͇̜̞͚Ḑ̶̴̡̳̼̰̻̣̙̘̺͓̝͕̩̭͎̗̏͑͆ͨͯ͗ͤ̿͒̈́̓̏̽̐̑A̟̣͙̠̔̊̏ͮ̔ͧͧͣ̃͂́͟W̨͍͉͈̹͔̤̰̦͚̞̼͇͍̦͕̮͕̍̔͒̐̈ͪͬ͌͂ͣ̇̀͞N̵̨̯͚̱͈̯̰̫̰͔͙̹̤̮̙̋ͯ̈̀̐ͫ̆̂̋̑ͫ̈́̐ ̨̩̞͍̫͖̩̜͋ͩ̒ͥ̉͊͌ͣ̽̔ͮ̒̈́͜͠Ó̷̸̡̟̮̺̬̗͇̙͚͈͍̭͕̪̮̲ͨ̾̈́ͧ̌ͧͣ̔͗͒̀ͅF̷̭͈̜͔̜̰͉̗̤͉̌͋̊ͭ͗̐ͯ̋̃̄͋̂̚ ̸͒ͮͭͩ͗̉̾̽͒̑̈ͩ͛͋ͣͯ̚͏҉̖̯̳̞͍͎T̮͎̲̟̻͚͖̩͍͙̼̰͛̐ͭ̈ͮ͐̋̆̈ͯ̎̉͊ͣ̎͗́͢͠ͅḪ̶̴̨̻̝͕̙͎̥̗̭̲̬̺̌̇ͦĒ͑̈̈̑̂ͭ̕҉̞͉̰̳̜̻͖̠̣̜̘̤̀͟͠ͅ ̷͑̄ͮ̀̄͂̐̉͏̙̼̱̦̥̟̪̘̭̤͍̝̻͚̘̹̰ͅS͂̔ͮ̉ͦ͆̆ͩ͌̃̈҉̢̜͓͍̤̜̜͕͖̬̜̙I̗̭͍̝̤͖̹̱͚̠̟̩̪̰̦͂̇̽͑̉͋͌̈́ͤ̀ͨ̈́͋̀͜ͅD̺̠͔̜̳̰͚̹̮̹̦̼̗͖̜͓̤̉ͥ̍̑̎ͣ̒ͤ̅̾̎ͭ̈́F̴͓͍̠̯̠̜͉͓̪̠͋ͨ͊ͦ̎̊̔ͪ̀̊ͨͯ̍ͦͩͥ͋͢A̵̳̥͓̘̗͚̹̤̠̓ͭͧ̆ͧ̃̏̿̏̚͢͜͢͢P̋ͨ̄̿ͦ̑̇̔̏̃͛͌̽̑͜͏̛̩̘͈̮̩̮̲̹̠͘ͅOͧ͗̓ͨͦ̃ͣ̈́̈̒͌͗̓̏ͮ̆̌̉͏̸͙̰͔̼͙E͊̇͗͌̒҉̭̝̯̞̠͇̲̪̘̣̼̘͔̪Uͬ̑ͪ̍҉̴̱̺͈̙̜̺͓̺̼̥̦̤̪̜̱̩͕́̕͠V̷̶̡͍͇̻̖̰̜̤̼͛͐̈́̾ͣ̄ͫ͑ͩͤͧͨ̿̂̀͠Aͮ̓̂͂͗͊̐̍̕҉̥͙͓̺͍[̧̢͓̬͈͓͎̪̔̉͑̍̑̀͗̀͡S̴̨͋͂ͪ̉̏͆ͥͥ͘͢҉̭͔͈̥͈̙̝̩͔̤̪O̶̜̗̝̜͔̞̪͇̣̗̻ͣ̒͐ͭ̀͑̄ͭͩ͊́͘D̵͈̜̹̦͇̗̦̺̙̰̲̟̣ͯ̓̉̏̉̉ͯ̈́̓̓͒ͮ̐̓̿͐̚͢I̸̧̲͔̥̭̹̰̘͑ͦ̌̓̌̐̓̏͂ͤ́̅͆̿̾́̚




I hope you enjoy your pasta!

[Malkevin]

IIRC Lovecraft is Zaross's little fuck toy before he dumped her to the side for his other fuck toy.

[Ricotez]

lol MSO I can't tell if you're trolling or not because of poe's law

please tell me you're trolling

[Lovecraft]

who

[Ricotez]

who

Poe's law is an Internet adage which states that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, parodies of extreme views will be mistaken by some readers for sincere expressions of the parodied views.

[Zilenan91]

Do any of you wish to know my special sauce recipe?

[Zellion]

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
Steelpoint please continue these image macros they are great.

[Lovecraft]

Donald trump as a serious political candidate just shows how weak, irrelevant and pointless third wave feminism is

[Steelpoint]

Donald trump as a serious political candidate just shows how weak, irrelevant and pointless third wave feminism is

I think Trump is just a meme candidate that is seeing how far he can go.

[Zilenan91]

Kinda like the current Canadian Prime Minister. A lot of people are really surprised he got elected.

[Steelpoint]

The ultimate final thoughts when this thread is closed.

[Ricotez]

I like the theory that Trump is actually a democrat who tries to sabotage the GOP

[LiamLime]

US politics is dumb

/thread.

Why the fuck does anyone even remotely care about the elections when they are still a year away. In all of Europe you have a 30 or so day campaign period and that's it. The only thing that this long campaign period does is stop the senate from working even the tiny bit that it normally works because each party demands outrage roar.

[Zilenan91]

Nobody actually cares about the elections, it's just news channels hyping them up for so long that has people talking about them.

[Takeguru]

Donald trump as a serious political candidate just shows how weak, irrelevant and pointless third wave feminism is

I think Trump is just a meme candidate that is seeing how far he can go.

He's slated to be the nominee.
I would not be surprised one bit if he gets elected, and he's not the worst one on that side of the fence.

[Super Aggro Crag]

Kinda like the current Canadian Prime Minister. A lot of people are really surprised he got elected.

better than harper

[XSI]

Donald trump as a serious political candidate just shows how weak, irrelevant and pointless third wave feminism is

I think Trump is just a meme candidate that is seeing how far he can go.

He's slated to be the nominee.
I would not be surprised one bit if he gets elected, and he's not the worst one on that side of the fence.

At least it's not Hillary
Hillary only has a slight chance of getting her ugly ass into office just because she doesn't have a penis dangling between her legs. No redeeming qualities whatsoever but somehow people consider her a candidate. Must be because women voters

Oh, look, I brought it back to feminism

[Ricotez]

Oh, look, I brought it back to feminism

you fool

[rdght91]

This thread just shows we can't hold mature discussions yet, really guys?
*sigh*

One day we'll be as mature and totally deep as you brah.

(20 bucks you just want to spout MRA memes).

[peoplearestrange]

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

And no, people can't hold a mature discussion, its been proven time and time again. Too many trolls, too many kiddies, too many idiots, too many furries, too many assholes.

[tedward1337]

Donald Trump is literally what /pol/ would look like as a person

[rdght91]

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

And no, people can't hold a mature discussion, its been proven time and time again. Too many trolls, too many kiddies, too many idiots, too many furries, too many assholes.

If the people here who wanted a "serious" discussion about feminism on a board populated mostly by young men with virtually no social life, it'd turn into a MRA circlejerk about how hard their life is because nobody wants to fuck them. That shit's gay.

[Deitus]

has anyone else seen that guide on dick vore where you force a red fire ant up your urethra then masturbate while it scurries around close to the base of the penis? i wonder if the ant comes back out with the ejaculation. what an incredible journey that must be.

[Lovecraft]

There's actually a lot of choose your own adventure stories like that online, where you try to avoid the hordes of lusty giants who want to use you as a sex toy

[Deitus]

There's actually a lot of choose your own adventure stories like that online, where you try to avoid the hordes of lusty giants who want to use you as a sex toy

Spoiler:

links pls :^)

[Timbrewolf]

There's actually a lot of choose your own adventure stories like that online, where you try to avoid the hordes of lusty giants who want to use you as a sex toy

>complains about people not being able to maintain a serious conversation
>contributes this

[ThanatosRa]

C'mon dudes. Why can't you just be excellent to each other.

[NikNakFlak]

AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[oranges]

lockign this one in favour of cheridans caus they cannot be ban