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Re: Swastika station name nutshack
Please link to whatever you're peanutting about
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Re: Swastika station name nutshack
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27152trollbreeder wrote:Please link to whatever you're peanutting about
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Haha.
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Banned for posting stale memes. We live in a good society.
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I don't get all this phobia towards the symbols from the past, but thats just me. Might need to start drinking more of that tap water people be raving about.
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Re: Swastika station name nutshack
he better been Indian and blame that its not nazi simbol and just Hinduism, Buddhism or Jainism simbol and admems are racists towards indians
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Nah, pretty much every religion/group that used the swastika before has denounced it and doesn't anymore. Hitler ruined it for everyone.kopoba wrote:he better been Indian and blame that its not nazi simbol and just Hinduism, Buddhism or Jainism simbol and admems are racists towards indians
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
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there is no signs that station name was somthin somthin hail hitler so i dont see any signs of nazi propagandaVekter wrote:Nah, pretty much every religion/group that used the swastika before has denounced it and doesn't anymore. Hitler ruined it for everyone.
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fucking 4chan retards
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4chan is a whimsical place.
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I don't side either way in this discussion but this is incorrect, the Eastern religions still use the symbol quite often unmodified. Hindus overseas often use a version with dots on it or the Benghali version at times (which looks more like a stick figure) but in country or in Jainism it goes unmodified. Malay Buddhism still uses the original symbol unchanged, and even in the US there's a big kerfuffle about Navajo descended people being able to use the symbol as it has a traditional meaning to them.Vekter wrote:Nah, pretty much every religion/group that used the swastika before has denounced it and doesn't anymore. Hitler ruined it for everyone.kopoba wrote:he better been Indian and blame that its not nazi simbol and just Hinduism, Buddhism or Jainism simbol and admems are racists towards indians
Of course, this wasn't the intent of the ban recipient, so not that relevant to this discussion.
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I play Holden Westmacott. Sec/PM main most of the time.
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Rent free
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Re: Swastika station name nutshack
ill never understand how it’s so hard for some people to not include weird nazi shit in everything they do
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Re: Swastika station name nutshack
If you have 19 people and 1 Nazi at a table, that's 20 Nazis.
Send 'em packing
Send 'em packing
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
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local communist admin kills 20 people for being at a table(eating food under war communism isnt allowed)
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Re: Swastika station name nutshack
Better to destroy your playerbase than let one Nazi play your game
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Re: Swastika station name nutshack
卐 I love iCarly station 卍
getting permanently banned from all head of staff roles for naming the station this by an admin like themidnightrose is to be expected. i could understand it if it were just hard n's as that's low effort and played out but even in such a case just rename the station like nigga smite the guy. i do think iCarlyStation with the Buddhist symbols would've been better though
getting permanently banned from all head of staff roles for naming the station this by an admin like themidnightrose is to be expected. i could understand it if it were just hard n's as that's low effort and played out but even in such a case just rename the station like nigga smite the guy. i do think iCarlyStation with the Buddhist symbols would've been better though
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lmao only ameritards and eurocucks believe thisVekter wrote:Nah, pretty much every religion/group that used the swastika before has denounced it and doesn't anymore. Hitler ruined it for everyone.
everyone else in the world doesn't give a fuck
japanese high school girls used 卍 as a meme and when told about the nazis they just said they don't care
it's also used in maps to signal buddhist temples and a law to change the symbol in japan did not pass cause no one wants to take your greasy cultural imperialism cock willingly
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bringing up japanese school girls to
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Re: Swastika station name nutshack
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Re: Swastika station name nutshack
National Socialist iCarly Station
I don't see how you don't see it's a joke
I don't see how you don't see it's a joke
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cringe ban
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Re: Swastika station name nutshack
it has to be funny to be easily identifiable as a jokecacogen wrote:National Socialist iCarly Station
I don't see how you don't see it's a joke
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Re: Swastika station name nutshack
Your sense of humour doesn't change the intent. You don't have to be a #MeToo level comedian to make a joke in a computer game
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Re: Swastika station name nutshack
It doesn't really matter if other cultures (such as the ones from asia) have different meanings for the symbol, because the joke was made in a game in which both lore and playerbase are mostly composed of western elements.
Unless it was explicitedly stated at the moment of the joke that it was refering to something else, the first and obvious interpretation would be that it was related to nazism. Context matters.
Unless it was explicitedly stated at the moment of the joke that it was refering to something else, the first and obvious interpretation would be that it was related to nazism. Context matters.
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I can not believe people are using the other cultures excuse for the swastika in 2020. I know you think low of the banning admin but that's no reason to put out bad faith arguments
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the only reasonable argument is that this is (pretty blatantly) a case of absurdist humor and the swastika has completely distracted everyone that it was pretty damn obviously a shitpost, much like 90% of all station names.
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It’s a joke in the same way that many sprites and game locations showcase soviet iconography even though they murdered tens of millions. The humor is found in the absurdity.Screemonster wrote:it has to be funny to be easily identifiable as a jokecacogen wrote:National Socialist iCarly Station
I don't see how you don't see it's a joke
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Country =/= Ideology. Nazi ideology is hateful and violent in its essence, and it's main idea is about race superiority and genocide.Farquaar wrote:It’s a joke in the same way that many sprites and game locations showcase soviet iconography even though they murdered tens of millions. The humor is found in the absurdity.Screemonster wrote:it has to be funny to be easily identifiable as a jokecacogen wrote:National Socialist iCarly Station
I don't see how you don't see it's a joke
While the Soviet Union had genocide in its history, it is not the defining characteristic of it. USSR lasted way beyond Stalin, and changed a lot through its different leaders. You could perhaps say Stalinism is just as bad, but saying references to the nation USSR would be a problem implies we should also avoid making references to Germany, Japan, Cambodia, Italy, and any other country which was involved in genocide at some point in history. And there are plenty of countries that were and still exist. Shit, if you add up all the fucked up things USA imperialism did, you could even make an argument for banning references to them.
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music that plays when nazism vs communism comes up in the /tg/station free speech debates.
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Re: Swastika station name nutshack
Ehn.
Is the joke a trash shitpost? Sure. Is it funny? Definitely not. Does it make sense to ban for it? Eeehn. Listen to admins speak in OOC on Terry and you'll hear edgier shit by the dozen, and it seems like a pretty clear cut case of 'man wants to shitpost haha funny windmill' rather than 'SPREADING WHITE SUPREMACIST IDEALS IN SS13', which again, if you believe that's applicable, spend ten minutes on Terry OOC.
People say way edgier shit in this game, shitposting in station names isn't new and admins of this server have named their station shit like "Ni**er Killer Station 2000" on Bagil in the past and they're still around. It seems like a bit of an inconsistent ruling imo. Then again, getting banned from Head roles is whatever.
My point about Vekter being wrong about the symbol in the East isn't a defense, I was just pointing out he was mistaken. As said before, clearly not the intention of the person in the appeal to use it in that meaning, so irrelevant. If anyone ever wants to put Buddhist Prayer Temples in-game then we can bring that up again.
Is the joke a trash shitpost? Sure. Is it funny? Definitely not. Does it make sense to ban for it? Eeehn. Listen to admins speak in OOC on Terry and you'll hear edgier shit by the dozen, and it seems like a pretty clear cut case of 'man wants to shitpost haha funny windmill' rather than 'SPREADING WHITE SUPREMACIST IDEALS IN SS13', which again, if you believe that's applicable, spend ten minutes on Terry OOC.
People say way edgier shit in this game, shitposting in station names isn't new and admins of this server have named their station shit like "Ni**er Killer Station 2000" on Bagil in the past and they're still around. It seems like a bit of an inconsistent ruling imo. Then again, getting banned from Head roles is whatever.
My point about Vekter being wrong about the symbol in the East isn't a defense, I was just pointing out he was mistaken. As said before, clearly not the intention of the person in the appeal to use it in that meaning, so irrelevant. If anyone ever wants to put Buddhist Prayer Temples in-game then we can bring that up again.
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I dunno, I don't like our server having swastikas on the BYOND hub. Bad look. There would have to be some serious issue going on internally with the situation for me to disagree with removing nazi stuff, admins shouldn't get flak for it.
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The argument for not wanting it on the hub is super valid actually, yeah. If we consider that angle, it should definitely be bannable, but placed more front and center in rule clarification.Armhulen wrote:I dunno, I don't like our server having swastikas on the BYOND hub. Bad look. There would have to be some serious issue going on internally with the situation for me to disagree with removing nazi stuff, admins shouldn't get flak for it.
(I completely forgot that /tg/servers are on the hub now, lmao.)
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Re: Swastika station name nutshack
theres a few errs with the ban imo
- admins are capable of force renaming the station
- there was no actual violation cited
- ban was rejected for... not waiting 2 weeks? no actual reason was stated
also in my opinion the punishment doesnt even remotely fit the crime. perma headban for what i would personally consider a minor infraction at worse? crazy.
- admins are capable of force renaming the station
- there was no actual violation cited
- ban was rejected for... not waiting 2 weeks? no actual reason was stated
also in my opinion the punishment doesnt even remotely fit the crime. perma headban for what i would personally consider a minor infraction at worse? crazy.
this is valid, but also couldn't this be nullified by force-renaming the station? beyond this, if swastikas surrounding i love icarly was going to scare away a potential player, im sure they wouldn't fare too well against any given random shit people have to say in common radio.Armhulen wrote:I dunno, I don't like our server having swastikas on the BYOND hub. Bad look. There would have to be some serious issue going on internally with the situation for me to disagree with removing nazi stuff, admins shouldn't get flak for it.
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I think you missed the point by focusing on the first sentence while completely ignoring the second.Space Panda wrote:SnipFarquaar wrote: It’s a joke in the same way that many sprites and game locations showcase soviet iconography even though they murdered tens of millions. The humor is found in the absurdity.
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I do understand the idea about absurdist humor. My post was aimed at the problem of the false equivalence of USSR vs. Nazi ideology.Farquaar wrote:I think you missed the point by focusing on the first sentence while completely ignoring the second.Space Panda wrote:SnipFarquaar wrote: It’s a joke in the same way that many sprites and game locations showcase soviet iconography even though they murdered tens of millions. The humor is found in the absurdity.
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Nazi Germany is to nazism as the Soviet Union is to communism. They’re both dark, murderous ideologies that are responsible for immense pain, death etc. Hardly a false equivalence.Space Panda wrote:I do understand the idea about absurdist humor. My post was aimed at the problem of the false equivalence of USSR vs. Nazi ideology.Farquaar wrote:I think you missed the point by focusing on the first sentence while completely ignoring the second.Space Panda wrote:SnipFarquaar wrote: It’s a joke in the same way that many sprites and game locations showcase soviet iconography even though they murdered tens of millions. The humor is found in the absurdity.
If someone is an actual neo-nazi, then ban them like we did with Obscolene, I don’t care, good riddance. But if you’re going to advocate banning people just for making jokes that might offend someone, then at least be consistent about it.
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Communism =/= Stalinism, dumbo. Have you ever read Marx?Farquaar wrote:Nazi Germany is to nazism as the Soviet Union is to communism. They’re both dark, murderous ideologies that are responsible for immense pain, death etc. Hardly a false equivalence.Space Panda wrote:I do understand the idea about absurdist humor. My post was aimed at the problem of the false equivalence of USSR vs. Nazi ideology.Farquaar wrote:I think you missed the point by focusing on the first sentence while completely ignoring the second.Space Panda wrote:SnipFarquaar wrote: It’s a joke in the same way that many sprites and game locations showcase soviet iconography even though they murdered tens of millions. The humor is found in the absurdity.
If someone is an actual neo-nazi, then ban them like we did with Obscolene, I don’t care, good riddance. But if you’re going to advocate banning people just for making jokes that might offend someone, then at least be consistent about it.
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you'll have red marks when I'm through with you, pinkoSpace Panda wrote:Communism =/= Stalinism, dumbo. Have you ever read Marx?Farquaar wrote:Nazi Germany is to nazism as the Soviet Union is to communism. They’re both dark, murderous ideologies that are responsible for immense pain, death etc. Hardly a false equivalence.Space Panda wrote:I do understand the idea about absurdist humor. My post was aimed at the problem of the false equivalence of USSR vs. Nazi ideology.Farquaar wrote:I think you missed the point by focusing on the first sentence while completely ignoring the second.Space Panda wrote:SnipFarquaar wrote: It’s a joke in the same way that many sprites and game locations showcase soviet iconography even though they murdered tens of millions. The humor is found in the absurdity.
If someone is an actual neo-nazi, then ban them like we did with Obscolene, I don’t care, good riddance. But if you’re going to advocate banning people just for making jokes that might offend someone, then at least be consistent about it.
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like hickeys?Screemonster wrote: you'll have red marks when I'm through with you, pinko
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This isn’t a discussion about whether the USSR was RealCommunism™. Communism has resulted in death and slaughter wherever it’s been tried, making communist symbols offensive to many people, especially those who lived through it. Communism jokes are edgy, whether you like it or not.Space Panda wrote:Communism =/= Stalinism, dumbo. Have you ever read Marx?
Putting an iCarly fan club next to a swastika is funny in the same way that a clown wearing hammer and sickle underpants is funny. They’re both edgy, and they’re both absurd. You personally might not get the joke, but don’t act like either is a promotion of nazism or communism.
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imagine believing USSR, China and NK being the only attempts at communismFarquaar wrote:This isn’t a discussion about whether the USSR was RealCommunism™. Communism has resulted in death and slaughter wherever it’s been tried, making communist symbols offensive to many people, especially those who lived through it. Communism jokes are edgy, whether you like it or not.Space Panda wrote:Communism =/= Stalinism, dumbo. Have you ever read Marx?
Putting an iCarly fan club next to a swastika is funny in the same way that a clown wearing hammer and sickle underpants is funny. They’re both edgy, and they’re both absurd. You personally might not get the joke, but don’t act like either is a promotion of nazism or communism.
And by your logic, Christianity should be considered edgy because of all the war and genocide that happened in its name across its history.
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YesSpace Panda wrote: And by your logic, Christianity should be considered edgy because of all the war and genocide that happened in its name across its history.
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and pandaJack7D1 wrote:Humanity is the greatest mistake of history, relinquish human, convert to moth
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shoulda been a temp ban
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† DEUS VULT BURN THE HERETIC † style chaplainry is, indeed, very edgy. However, I’m not the one who advocates permabanning dark humor because some people don’t get the joke.Space Panda wrote:And by your logic, Christianity should be considered edgy because of all the war and genocide that happened in its name across its history.
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