?https://discord.com/channels/326822144233439242/808425762217656330/873235156029300836 wrote:It is time for head coders accept a new paradigm where they sit under the host, as head admins do.
Things can not continue as things once have. I will continue to get frustrated at feeling powerless in matters involving coderbus until that frustration leads me to abandon all protocol, as it did today.
The solution is obvious.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
MSO is completely correct and well within his rights to crack down on the coders.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
C*ders have gone unchecked for way too long. Long live the king.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
mso declares himself headcoder because fuck coders, coders/codejannies are seething.Super Aggro Crag wrote:gimme a quick run down
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
good fuck them they're all fucking retards
mso actually shovels money into the internet furnace keeping this shithole running if the coders want to piss and shit and fart themselves and declare themselves NO LONGER CODING FOR THE /tg/BASE YOU HAVE TO FORK they can be replaced by any other digg-using dipshit willing to hammer their keyboard at a 25 year old game engine in exchange for attention
one of the coderpeasants wants to start their own server? feel fucking free, enjoy having to playtest your own shit for once instead of forcing it on the noble Playerbase
mso actually shovels money into the internet furnace keeping this shithole running if the coders want to piss and shit and fart themselves and declare themselves NO LONGER CODING FOR THE /tg/BASE YOU HAVE TO FORK they can be replaced by any other digg-using dipshit willing to hammer their keyboard at a 25 year old game engine in exchange for attention
one of the coderpeasants wants to start their own server? feel fucking free, enjoy having to playtest your own shit for once instead of forcing it on the noble Playerbase
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
If MSO forks i get another chance at coding for tg
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In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
Sounds like you can either cater to the population that has grown and thrived with the current development or you could cater to people who have entirely stopped playing but promise that if you do what they say they will surely play
this is a good example of a funny promiseTimonk wrote:If MSO forks i get another chance at coding for tg
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
I miss ash drake xenobio end game ((Armhulen wrote:Sounds like you can either cater to the population that has grown and thrived with the current development or you could cater to people who have entirely stopped playing but promise that if you do what they say they will surely play
this is a good example of a funny promiseTimonk wrote:If MSO forks i get another chance at coding for tg
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
xenobio's been waiting for that special someone to spice it up (and i'm not just talking about slapping a megafauna to the end of the progression)Shadowflame909 wrote:I miss ash drake xenobio end game ((Armhulen wrote:Sounds like you can either cater to the population that has grown and thrived with the current development or you could cater to people who have entirely stopped playing but promise that if you do what they say they will surely play
this is a good example of a funny promiseTimonk wrote:If MSO forks i get another chance at coding for tg
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
About time too. Hopefully he doesn't cave on this one. I mean what are they going to do, host their own server? Okay, good luck having to manage the server, codebase, and playerbase. Good luck having to manage remote user access. Good luck getting a full-time free hosting schema, and support technician to have the thing as a passion project. Not to mention, say bye bye to the forums that are hosted on his domain too. He completely has them by the balls, and if they want to leave, okay sure go ahead. It's about time someone fucking reined in oranges, he's been out of line for way too long.terranaut wrote:mso declares himself headcoder because fuck coders, coders/codejannies are seething.Super Aggro Crag wrote:gimme a quick run down
Hi, I play Respii Varenos on Bagil.
everyone when referring to respii wrote:she
deedubya wrote:Posts you don't like aren't illegitimate. Points you don't agree with aren't disproven just because you post a disagreement. Points of view that can negatively affect you(a greyshirt main) aren't automatically negative as a whole.
The sooner you learn things like this, the sooner you can actually participate in fair and open discourse, instead of just screeching like a child when someone wants to take away the toys you use that have been abused constantly.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
The community's grown, thrived and then been run off by the degrading quality of jannies or, much more often, the fact that the coders are living and dying in their own delusions. Look no further than here:Armhulen wrote:Sounds like you can either cater to the population that has grown and thrived with the current development or you could cater to people who have entirely stopped playing but promise that if you do what they say they will surely play
this is a good example of a funny promiseTimonk wrote:If MSO forks i get another chance at coding for tg
The idea that the downstreams like TG coders when they're constantly having to plug holes by reverting shit PR after shit PR the retarded coders upstream keep merging is laughable. None of you hacks could make it anywhere outside oranges' domain and, even disregarding the matter of payment, definitely couldn't handle dealing with a server company who'll without a doubt be much less agreeable than MSO,
Basically, you're getting what you fucking deserve coderbus: A boot to the back.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
LAUNCH /TG/station classic, no changes
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
If MSO had kicked him out years ago over the slapcrafting removal PR we'd be looking at a completely different server today. He's fostered the sentiment among coders that they're the most important people on the server, even more so than the damn host, and are so cocky that they think they can make demands such as "fork or step down".
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
i just wanna see someone get btfo i dont care who
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
"Fork or step down" hopefully ends up as "Please continue hosting for us, we're sorry!" or silence, because the new hosting of the server was riddled with holes.ShadowDimentio wrote:If MSO had kicked him out years ago over the slapcrafting removal PR we'd be looking at a completely different server today. He's fostered the sentiment among coders that they're the most important people on the server, even more so than the damn host, and are so cocky that they think they can make demands such as "fork or step down".
Hi, I play Respii Varenos on Bagil.
everyone when referring to respii wrote:she
deedubya wrote:Posts you don't like aren't illegitimate. Points you don't agree with aren't disproven just because you post a disagreement. Points of view that can negatively affect you(a greyshirt main) aren't automatically negative as a whole.
The sooner you learn things like this, the sooner you can actually participate in fair and open discourse, instead of just screeching like a child when someone wants to take away the toys you use that have been abused constantly.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
looks like the consesus is coders get btfo
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
Here is a summary of the drama for anyone who doesn't feel like reading 4 pages of Discord discussions:
- timberpoes (maintainer) says emogi PRs are no-no
- Botany PR closed for having a bee emogi in title
- MSO pissed people have to reopen PRs instead of just editing
- MSO threatens to make himself headcoder to rectify
- Timper says MSO's attitude is making it unfun to be a coder
- MSO apologizes for getting heated and opts to instead make a maintainer guideline to "not close PRs needlessly"
- maintainers become outraged MSO speedmerged these guidelines by himself without consulting them first
- headcoder reverts oranges' creation of "write to repo" team for MSO since self-merging is a no-no
- MSO disables keyholders until they accept him as head-headcoder to avoid frustrations like these
- maintainers argue codebase is independent from the server, MSO is head of server not of codebase
- headcoder suggests MSO steps down if he doesnt like that
- MSO says "nah i'm head-headcoder now, it'll be fine"
- headcoder says "fork or step down, i can be host in the meantime btw"
- a few maintainers go on strike until MSO relinquishes headcoder role
The threat to fork the codebase, forcing Host to step down, over what comes down to a simple speedmerged maintainer guideline change is kind of insane to me, especially since it was created in the first place as a concession from MSO instead of making himself headcoder. It should have been accepted as the concession it was but now it's a standoff. Also seems to me the Host is head of the server which includes the codebase so he's within his right to merge his own changes within reason.
- timberpoes (maintainer) says emogi PRs are no-no
- Botany PR closed for having a bee emogi in title
- MSO pissed people have to reopen PRs instead of just editing
- MSO threatens to make himself headcoder to rectify
- Timper says MSO's attitude is making it unfun to be a coder
- MSO apologizes for getting heated and opts to instead make a maintainer guideline to "not close PRs needlessly"
- maintainers become outraged MSO speedmerged these guidelines by himself without consulting them first
- headcoder reverts oranges' creation of "write to repo" team for MSO since self-merging is a no-no
- MSO disables keyholders until they accept him as head-headcoder to avoid frustrations like these
- maintainers argue codebase is independent from the server, MSO is head of server not of codebase
- headcoder suggests MSO steps down if he doesnt like that
- MSO says "nah i'm head-headcoder now, it'll be fine"
- headcoder says "fork or step down, i can be host in the meantime btw"
- a few maintainers go on strike until MSO relinquishes headcoder role
The threat to fork the codebase, forcing Host to step down, over what comes down to a simple speedmerged maintainer guideline change is kind of insane to me, especially since it was created in the first place as a concession from MSO instead of making himself headcoder. It should have been accepted as the concession it was but now it's a standoff. Also seems to me the Host is head of the server which includes the codebase so he's within his right to merge his own changes within reason.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
can a codetist explain to me what leverage they even have against MSO here
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
This is the key here. He is hosting it. He has put all the effort into setting up, maintaining, and hosting the CDN required for things like the forums, the site (including the live trackers), and the gameplay servers themselves. He has the final say in anything related to things hosted through him (for free for the end users I might add). If he doesn't like how things are being run while he is hosting for the codebase, then the coders either change what he wanted changed or leave, he isn't required to even compromise like he has multiple times in the past, sometimes fucking himself over to appease the leeches.sinfulbliss wrote:Also seems to me the Host is head of the server which includes the codebase so he's within his right to merge his own changes within reason.
Hi, I play Respii Varenos on Bagil.
everyone when referring to respii wrote:she
deedubya wrote:Posts you don't like aren't illegitimate. Points you don't agree with aren't disproven just because you post a disagreement. Points of view that can negatively affect you(a greyshirt main) aren't automatically negative as a whole.
The sooner you learn things like this, the sooner you can actually participate in fair and open discourse, instead of just screeching like a child when someone wants to take away the toys you use that have been abused constantly.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
None, if he ever stopped hosting this, he's actually freeing up time and resources. It would quite literally be beneficial to stop hosting for TGstation.Malkraz wrote:can a codetist explain to me what leverage they even have against MSO here
Hi, I play Respii Varenos on Bagil.
everyone when referring to respii wrote:she
deedubya wrote:Posts you don't like aren't illegitimate. Points you don't agree with aren't disproven just because you post a disagreement. Points of view that can negatively affect you(a greyshirt main) aren't automatically negative as a whole.
The sooner you learn things like this, the sooner you can actually participate in fair and open discourse, instead of just screeching like a child when someone wants to take away the toys you use that have been abused constantly.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
team msoMSO wrote:Nope, i'm leading by example, as the new head-headcoder, starting now. Time to look forward
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
I don't have a problem with most coders but my official stance is "talk shit, get hit, have fun hosting your not-/tg/ servers you fucking babiessinfulbliss wrote: - headcoder reverts oranges' creation of "write to repo" team for MSO since self-merging is a no-no
- MSO disables keyholders until they accept him as head-headcoder to avoid frustrations like these
- maintainers argue codebase is independent from the server, MSO is head of server not of codebase
- headcoder suggests MSO steps down if he doesnt like that
- MSO says "nah i'm head-headcoder now, it'll be fine"
- headcoder says "fork or step down, i can be host in the meantime btw"
- a few maintainers go on strike until MSO relinquishes headcoder role
I'm thrilled that someone finally called out "Codebase is independent of the server" and "fork or fall in line" shit by exposing the hypocrisy.
Do you get to be keyholders on the server because of your role in the codebase, or is the codebase independent of the server? Which is it?
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
Or you could just work towards the project you personally think is the best version of it instead of trying to cater to the biggest amount of people. There is literally no need to do that.Armhulen wrote:Sounds like you can either cater to the population that has grown and thrived with the current development or you could cater to people who have entirely stopped playing but promise that if you do what they say they will surely play
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
they will add furry racesterranaut wrote:Or you could just work towards the project you personally think is the best version of it instead of trying to cater to the biggest amount of people. There is literally no need to do that.Armhulen wrote:Sounds like you can either cater to the population that has grown and thrived with the current development or you could cater to people who have entirely stopped playing but promise that if you do what they say they will surely play
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
Somehow I don't think MSO took the helm to get furry races in.Tlaltecuhtli wrote:they will add furry racesterranaut wrote:Or you could just work towards the project you personally think is the best version of it instead of trying to cater to the biggest amount of people. There is literally no need to do that.Armhulen wrote:Sounds like you can either cater to the population that has grown and thrived with the current development or you could cater to people who have entirely stopped playing but promise that if you do what they say they will surely play
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
I've never seen MSO be wrong about the game or codebase when it comes to fights like this in 8 years
It's his server and I've always been fucking glad of that.
It's his server and I've always been fucking glad of that.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
Tlaltecuhtli wrote:they will add furry racesterranaut wrote:Or you could just work towards the project you personally think is the best version of it instead of trying to cater to the biggest amount of people. There is literally no need to do that.Armhulen wrote:Sounds like you can either cater to the population that has grown and thrived with the current development or you could cater to people who have entirely stopped playing but promise that if you do what they say they will surely play
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
I will side with the side that puts disco inferno and oh hi daniel back in
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
after prefs menu i need to spend the less than 3 hours it would take to put these on emag onlyKendrickorium wrote:I will side with the side that puts disco inferno and oh hi daniel back in
the ce byos pr was the catalyst for a nice system for this
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
I too will participate in this civil war for whoever brings back the disco inferno.Kendrickorium wrote:I will side with the side that puts disco inferno and oh hi daniel back in
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
he is frequently wrong and frequently gets steamrolled when he's being a big baby likes thisStickymayhem wrote:I've never seen MSO be wrong about the game or codebase when it comes to fights like this in 8 years
It's his server and I've always been fucking glad of that.
keyholders, coders, and admins do the overwhelming amount of work actually running the server on a day to day basis.Malkraz wrote:can a codetist explain to me what leverage they even have against MSO here
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
ok but are u not way more replaceable than the hostactioninja wrote:keyholders, coders, and admins do the overwhelming amount of work actually running the server on a day to day basis.Malkraz wrote:can a codetist explain to me what leverage they even have against MSO here
wesoda24: malkrax you're a loser because your forum signature is people talking about you
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
As an entire team of experienced developers? No.Malkraz wrote:ok but are u not way more replaceable than the hostactioninja wrote:keyholders, coders, and admins do the overwhelming amount of work actually running the server on a day to day basis.Malkraz wrote:can a codetist explain to me what leverage they even have against MSO here
MSO is only difficult to replace because he has designed his entire overengineered server infrastructure to have him as the absolute arbiter with no backup or equal powers. He is important almost entirely because he has set himself up to be important by being the exclusive holder of some specific keys. We both have people with similar skillsets to him as well as people with the resources to run things. It would be a shame to lose him because he does have a lot of experience and has done a lot, but he's not a magic critical lynchpin of the entire operation.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
I see, but is it really "all of us vs. him", or just a subset of coders that would jump ship?actioninja wrote:As an entire team of experienced developers? No.Malkraz wrote:ok but are u not way more replaceable than the hostactioninja wrote:keyholders, coders, and admins do the overwhelming amount of work actually running the server on a day to day basis.Malkraz wrote:can a codetist explain to me what leverage they even have against MSO here
MSO is only difficult to replace because he has designed his entire overengineered server infrastructure to have him as the absolute arbiter with no backup or equal powers. He is important almost entirely because he has set himself up to be important by being the exclusive holder of some specific keys. We both have people with similar skillsets to him as well as people with the resources to run things. It would be a shame to lose him because he does have a lot of experience and has done a lot, but he's not a magic critical lynchpin of the entire operation.
wesoda24: malkrax you're a loser because your forum signature is people talking about you
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
stay mad, rent free, etc.terranaut wrote: lmao you are such a fucking clown
At minimum pretty much all maintainers and a significant amount of "core contributor" non maintainers would. I'm not sure if a true "fork" would happen and everyone would jump ship to it but I could see the majority of active devs heading for any kind of greener pasture. And as much as people like to whine about how coders ruin the game, the overwhelming majority of work done by most regular contributors and pretty much all maintainers is bug fixes, refactors, and code review. It's not something that would be easy to find replacements for, and is in fact something many other servers consistently struggle to find the right people for.Malkraz wrote:I see, but is it really "all of us vs. him", or just a subset of coders that would jump ship?
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
what do keyholders and coders do on the day-to-day, I legitimately don't know. i thought keyholders just had the ability to restart the server if something bad happened.actioninja wrote: keyholders, coders, and admins do the overwhelming amount of work actually running the server on a day to day basis.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
ok so when exactly is tg going to mean “terrific governance” again
Mothblocks, winter 2020, “successfully” preventing bagil death with relevant data wrote:You seem to be under the fallacy that reinforcing that Bagil is a TDM shithole where you must carry bolas and spears on you at all times, while looking for the next valid to hunt down is a positive change to the server. I don't. The data suggests other people don't.
imsxz wrote:I give up there’s too many furries
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Vekter wrote:I jerk off Nist a bit too much but he's honestly one of the best silicon players on the server. B.O.R.G.O. is also pretty good.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
perhaps you could make a signed petition to back up your claimsactioninja wrote:stay mad, rent free, etc.terranaut wrote: lmao you are such a fucking clown
At minimum pretty much all maintainers and a significant amount of "core contributor" non maintainers would. I'm not sure if a true "fork" would happen and everyone would jump ship to it but I could see the majority of active devs heading for any kind of greener pasture. And as much as people like to whine about how coders ruin the game, the overwhelming majority of work done by most regular contributors and pretty much all maintainers is bug fixes, refactors, and code review. It's not something that would be easy to find replacements for, and is in fact something many other servers consistently struggle to find the right people for.Malkraz wrote:I see, but is it really "all of us vs. him", or just a subset of coders that would jump ship?
Mothblocks, winter 2020, “successfully” preventing bagil death with relevant data wrote:You seem to be under the fallacy that reinforcing that Bagil is a TDM shithole where you must carry bolas and spears on you at all times, while looking for the next valid to hunt down is a positive change to the server. I don't. The data suggests other people don't.
imsxz wrote:I give up there’s too many furries
cacogen wrote:i asked oranges how often he plays and he deleted the post
cybersaber101 wrote:Welp, you guys let a terrymin become a headmin, thousand years of darkness.
Vekter wrote:I jerk off Nist a bit too much but he's honestly one of the best silicon players on the server. B.O.R.G.O. is also pretty good.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
I'm all for tyranny, hail to the weed king. c*ders bad
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
i agree, coders have repeatedly pissed everyone off for months so im not exactly sure who they’re gonna code their fork for
Mothblocks, winter 2020, “successfully” preventing bagil death with relevant data wrote:You seem to be under the fallacy that reinforcing that Bagil is a TDM shithole where you must carry bolas and spears on you at all times, while looking for the next valid to hunt down is a positive change to the server. I don't. The data suggests other people don't.
imsxz wrote:I give up there’s too many furries
cacogen wrote:i asked oranges how often he plays and he deleted the post
cybersaber101 wrote:Welp, you guys let a terrymin become a headmin, thousand years of darkness.
Vekter wrote:I jerk off Nist a bit too much but he's honestly one of the best silicon players on the server. B.O.R.G.O. is also pretty good.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
keyholders: reset things if the watchdog craps out, manage testmerges, occasionally deal with server configs if headmins are occupied, deal with boring technical crap like managing byond version on servers and so onFhaxaris wrote:what do keyholders and coders do on the day-to-day, I legitimately don't know. i thought keyholders just had the ability to restart the server if something bad happened.actioninja wrote: keyholders, coders, and admins do the overwhelming amount of work actually running the server on a day to day basis.
coders: handle and patch critical security flaws, help admins with technical problems and/or cleaning up when they screw up varedits, generally live investigating and fixing major issues with the game
and that's more just like the literal game servers, there's a lot to be said about how much any coder actually affects the game experience. I mean look at the amount of malding in this thread at coders, if they didn't matter and didn't do anything it would just literally be yelling at clouds.
Flatulent wrote:perhaps you could make a signed petition to back up your claims
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
I bet on MSO not moving and eventually getting what he wants because that would be really funny.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
like a toddler throwing himself on the ground and throwing a tantrumFhaxaris wrote:I bet on MSO not moving and eventually getting what he wants because that would be really funny.
joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑ I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
The hut has perished at my hands.
The pink arrow is always right.
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Re: !!MSO ran out of weed!!
@actioninja, would you be willing to reinstate the disco inferno shuttle?
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