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Things can not continue as things once have. I will continue to get frustrated at feeling powerless in matters involving coderbus until that frustration leads me to abandon all protocol, as it did today.
The solution is obvious.
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Armhulen wrote:page 1 is full of people who merely promise they will merely revisit the game if you just destroy 6 years of work going back to 2015
nobody is asking to destroy anything you can take the code and use it
someone host 2015 station then... wait, we should actually do that. we could turn either bagil or alt codebase into a 2015 server and let it run for awhile.
oh and we don't actually have to host it, someone else could but i don't think there is enough interest for it to crop up on its own
i'm genuinely so jaded from interacting with coders here that i cant tell if you're being genuine or telling me to fuck off and host my own 2015 code if i want to play it
since we're plant pals i'll go with the former and say: the infrastructure is in place, both server and staff, and parts of the server infrastructure go unused
no reason not to do it and gauge player interest
coderbus is like that one uncle who permanently glues spikes on your bedframe and says "come on, just try it! it'll be comfortable!"
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
Badger was a brief moment of true SS13 perfection that we can never recapture.
I'd love to try a 2015code SS13 server, again, though, at least for a bit. See the old janky atmospherics when plasma's flashpoint was 273 Kelvin instead of 373 Kelvin or whatever.
(2:53:35 AM) scaredofshadows: how about head of robutts
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
also a retro server with some changes like the disarm rework and some optimization improvements would be great
I started in 2017 or something so it's not like i know what retro ss13 is like
iksyp wrote:also a retro server with some changes like the disarm rework and some optimization improvements would be great
I started in 2017 or something so it's not like i know what retro ss13 is like
jajajajaj NEW you're NEW you're not an OLD TIME PLAYER
Armhulen wrote:>MSO threatens to fork every time an issue comes up
>knowing that this would not work and at the very least cripple the tg community for years to come if it doesn't outright kill it
>still threatening to fork anyways
>bluff called and nuclear options put down
>all of this is going to be remembered as maintainers wanting to fork >all of this is going to be remembered as maintainers wanting to fork
Spoiler:
How else would it be remembered? The maintainers are making it clear they'd rather fork than have MSO become headheadcoder. I would venture to say it would be much more destructive to the server for it to fork than for MSO to give himself head-headcoder, but hell what do I know I don't code. Maybe a coder could shed light on why they think this proposal must be avoided at all costs even if it means pretty much ripping apart TG.
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Armhulen wrote:>MSO threatens to fork every time an issue comes up
>knowing that this would not work and at the very least cripple the tg community for years to come if it doesn't outright kill it
>still threatening to fork anyways
>bluff called and nuclear options put down
>all of this is going to be remembered as maintainers wanting to fork >all of this is going to be remembered as maintainers wanting to fork
Spoiler:
How else would it be remembered? The maintainers are making it clear they'd rather fork than have MSO become headheadcoder. I would venture to say it would be much more destructive to the server for it to fork than for MSO to give himself head-headcoder, but hell what do I know I don't code. Maybe a coder could shed light on why they think this proposal must be avoided at all costs even if it means pretty much ripping apart TG.
because coders can't be smug assholes anymore then when they push through unwanted garbage changes dont get me wrong i realise coders are volunteers and i dont want to shit on volunteers needlessly, but being a volunteer doesn't entitle you to getting your will or if it does, it means MSO also gets his will on account of being a volunteer
from forum interactions with both oranges and ninja they both seem way too full of themselves and both literally always seems to have had a my way or the highway attitude
Mothblocks, winter 2020, “successfully” preventing bagil death with relevant data wrote:You seem to be under the fallacy that reinforcing that Bagil is a TDM shithole where you must carry bolas and spears on you at all times, while looking for the next valid to hunt down is a positive change to the server. I don't. The data suggests other people don't.
imsxz wrote:I give up there’s too many furries
cacogen wrote:i asked oranges how often he plays and he deleted the post
cybersaber101 wrote:Welp, you guys let a terrymin become a headmin, thousand years of darkness.
Vekter wrote:I jerk off Nist a bit too much but he's honestly one of the best silicon players on the server. B.O.R.G.O. is also pretty good.
the next server split being caused in part by a slippery station is objectively the best possible death for /tg/station
this isn't just about emojis in pr titles and the coders cleverly fixating on the silly part is a way to make it seem like it's not about the power struggle that's been going on for years.
this isn't life and death shit and at the end of the day you can still play the game with 10% variation in either direction but coders have been explicitly and proudly shitty to the community for years. not all coders are like this but not all cops shoot people for kicks, the others always line up beside them when they get outside scrutiny though
please wear vegan boots so i can participate
I should add i have no problem with the coders and they should have sway based on the work they put in, but there has to be at least some basic cooperation or communication with the other parts of the community that make the server something actually meaningful to code for. no one would care about a project with zero players, and the game is made both playable and special through admin intervention
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Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman
Super Aggro Crag wrote:if the first time you played in ss13 isnt a year that ends in "010" ur cringe
suck it crag the first time i played ss13 was in 3010 and immediately stepped into a time machine to send my dumbass back to when it first came about (in 3010 space station 13 is the intergalactic game of choice with all 2592 playable jobs, interactive universe to explore, and complete full-body simulation, also its still buggy and oranges is still head coder but not really)
Super Aggro Crag wrote:This is what u get when u let people into your community
play opus: echo of starsong
I'm an admin, typically on /tg/station Sybil. If you've got anything you'd like to say about me, my adminning, or my decisions, please comment in my admin feedback thread!
Mothblocks, winter 2020, “successfully” preventing bagil death with relevant data wrote:You seem to be under the fallacy that reinforcing that Bagil is a TDM shithole where you must carry bolas and spears on you at all times, while looking for the next valid to hunt down is a positive change to the server. I don't. The data suggests other people don't.
imsxz wrote:I give up there’s too many furries
cacogen wrote:i asked oranges how often he plays and he deleted the post
cybersaber101 wrote:Welp, you guys let a terrymin become a headmin, thousand years of darkness.
Vekter wrote:I jerk off Nist a bit too much but he's honestly one of the best silicon players on the server. B.O.R.G.O. is also pretty good.
Stickymayhem wrote:alright here are all the correct answers
the next server split being caused in part by a slippery station is objectively the best possible death for /tg/station
this isn't just about emojis in pr titles and the coders cleverly fixating on the silly part is a way to make it seem like it's not about the power struggle that's been going on for years.
this isn't life and death shit and at the end of the day you can still play the game with 10% variation in either direction but coders have been explicitly and proudly shitty to the community for years. not all coders are like this but not all cops shoot people for kicks, the others always line up beside them when they get outside scrutiny though
please wear vegan boots so i can participate
I should add i have no problem with the coders and they should have sway based on the work they put in, but there has to be at least some basic cooperation or communication with the other parts of the community that make the server something actually meaningful to code for. no one would care about a project with zero players, and the game is made both playable and special through admin intervention
Also could coders explain who exactly is going to be the new host if MSO steps down? If it’s not going to be goofball who was true to his naming choice by spoiling everything, who will?
Don’t give me any of this “could be anyone with money and time to pay for a server”, give an actual name.
Mothblocks, winter 2020, “successfully” preventing bagil death with relevant data wrote:You seem to be under the fallacy that reinforcing that Bagil is a TDM shithole where you must carry bolas and spears on you at all times, while looking for the next valid to hunt down is a positive change to the server. I don't. The data suggests other people don't.
imsxz wrote:I give up there’s too many furries
cacogen wrote:i asked oranges how often he plays and he deleted the post
cybersaber101 wrote:Welp, you guys let a terrymin become a headmin, thousand years of darkness.
Vekter wrote:I jerk off Nist a bit too much but he's honestly one of the best silicon players on the server. B.O.R.G.O. is also pretty good.
Flatulent wrote:Also could coders explain who exactly is going to be the new host if MSO steps down? If it’s not going to be goofball who was true to his naming choice by spoiling everything, who will?
Don’t give me any of this “could be anyone with money and time to pay for a server”, give an actual name.
whoever it'll be it can't be a coder because the seperation is absolute
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
Mothblocks, winter 2020, “successfully” preventing bagil death with relevant data wrote:You seem to be under the fallacy that reinforcing that Bagil is a TDM shithole where you must carry bolas and spears on you at all times, while looking for the next valid to hunt down is a positive change to the server. I don't. The data suggests other people don't.
imsxz wrote:I give up there’s too many furries
cacogen wrote:i asked oranges how often he plays and he deleted the post
cybersaber101 wrote:Welp, you guys let a terrymin become a headmin, thousand years of darkness.
Vekter wrote:I jerk off Nist a bit too much but he's honestly one of the best silicon players on the server. B.O.R.G.O. is also pretty good.
Flatulent wrote:Also could coders explain who exactly is going to be the new host if MSO steps down? If it’s not going to be goofball who was true to his naming choice by spoiling everything, who will?
Don’t give me any of this “could be anyone with money and time to pay for a server”, give an actual name.
The implication so far has been that it'd be oranges but he's been out of commission so the coders are weak without their fearless leader
it is time to strike while oranges still has spicy wrists
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman
Now that you mention it i didn’t see that tangerine jackass in a while
Mothblocks, winter 2020, “successfully” preventing bagil death with relevant data wrote:You seem to be under the fallacy that reinforcing that Bagil is a TDM shithole where you must carry bolas and spears on you at all times, while looking for the next valid to hunt down is a positive change to the server. I don't. The data suggests other people don't.
imsxz wrote:I give up there’s too many furries
cacogen wrote:i asked oranges how often he plays and he deleted the post
cybersaber101 wrote:Welp, you guys let a terrymin become a headmin, thousand years of darkness.
Vekter wrote:I jerk off Nist a bit too much but he's honestly one of the best silicon players on the server. B.O.R.G.O. is also pretty good.
Its only somewhat diffused because americans were sleeping
Mothblocks, winter 2020, “successfully” preventing bagil death with relevant data wrote:You seem to be under the fallacy that reinforcing that Bagil is a TDM shithole where you must carry bolas and spears on you at all times, while looking for the next valid to hunt down is a positive change to the server. I don't. The data suggests other people don't.
imsxz wrote:I give up there’s too many furries
cacogen wrote:i asked oranges how often he plays and he deleted the post
cybersaber101 wrote:Welp, you guys let a terrymin become a headmin, thousand years of darkness.
Vekter wrote:I jerk off Nist a bit too much but he's honestly one of the best silicon players on the server. B.O.R.G.O. is also pretty good.
People will keep being angry, of course.
A good portion of the users log in here precisely for that. Anger is addictive.
But things will most likely go back to the regular schedule until next time.
Rohesie has made consistently good posts in maintainer-bus can I nominate him for my favorite coder (aside from kylerace who gets first place because he's another member of touhou-containment)
Super Aggro Crag wrote:This is what u get when u let people into your community
play opus: echo of starsong
I'm an admin, typically on /tg/station Sybil. If you've got anything you'd like to say about me, my adminning, or my decisions, please comment in my admin feedback thread!
Super Aggro Crag wrote:if the first time you played in ss13 isnt a year that ends in "010" ur cringe
suck it crag the first time i played ss13 was in 3010 and immediately stepped into a time machine to send my dumbass back to when it first came about (in 3010 space station 13 is the intergalactic game of choice with all 2592 playable jobs, interactive universe to explore, and complete full-body simulation, also its still buggy and oranges is still head coder but not really)
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
Why is there fat fucking bazonkas in the background of that image?
Hi, I play Respii Varenos on Bagil.
everyone when referring to respii wrote:she
deedubya wrote:Posts you don't like aren't illegitimate. Points you don't agree with aren't disproven just because you post a disagreement. Points of view that can negatively affect you(a greyshirt main) aren't automatically negative as a whole.
The sooner you learn things like this, the sooner you can actually participate in fair and open discourse, instead of just screeching like a child when someone wants to take away the toys you use that have been abused constantly.
Armhulen wrote:Sounds like you can either cater to the population that has grown and thrived with the current development or you could cater to people who have entirely stopped playing but promise that if you do what they say they will surely play
Timonk wrote:If MSO forks i get another chance at coding for tg
this is a good example of a funny promise
I miss ash drake xenobio end game ((
xenobio's been waiting for that special someone to spice it up (and i'm not just talking about slapping a megafauna to the end of the progression)
Oh and btw tgstation is not only the largest server but also the easiest to get into, MSO does not need to worry about the server dying. If he does give, it’s of his own accord.