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Re: No good ban appeals
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Re: No good ban appeals
Sorry, I think I set the bar too high, it's gonna be hard for someone to give you a good fix now.
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Re: No good ban appeals
Some monster closed my ban appeal peanut.
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Re: No good ban appeals
When the ban issuing admin has already had two of his actions against you overturned on appeal, admits to being biased against you, and his theory of the ban was "it was an evil plot by you to murder innocents" there is a reason to go into detail about all the many ways the ban is bullshit.dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:35 pmIt's hard to top that you said more during your ban appeal than you did during your entire in game career but the peanut should have stayed open regardless.
Especially because despite that AwkwardStereo still managed to fuck the whole thing up by failing to understand how SEC works on tramstation.
The best part is that after the admins gave the whole big "I'm an admin, of course I know how SEC works!" speech the headmin decided the ban would stick because of course the mime(who was Lucy Cicero) must've made the same mistake they did, and of course it was a reasonable and easy to make mistake, because the alternative is climbing down and admitting they got the facts wrong.
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Re: No good ban appeals
my guy, all you had to do was not execute the mime just because someone tried to grab them while you were taking them to the brigZybwivcz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:58 amWhen the ban issuing admin has already had two of his actions against you overturned on appeal, admits to being biased against you, and his theory of the ban was "it was an evil plot by you to murder innocents" there is a reason to go into detail about all the many ways the ban is bullshit.dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:35 pmIt's hard to top that you said more during your ban appeal than you did during your entire in game career but the peanut should have stayed open regardless.
Especially because despite that AwkwardStereo still managed to fuck the whole thing up by failing to understand how SEC works on tramstation.
The best part is that after the admins gave the whole big "I'm an admin, of course I know how SEC works!" speech the headmin decided the ban would stick because of course the mime(who was Lucy Cicero) must've made the same mistake they did, and of course it was a reasonable and easy to make mistake, because the alternative is climbing down and admitting they got the facts wrong.
The weak should fear the strong
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Re: No good ban appeals
Go outside loserZybwivcz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:58 amWhen the ban issuing admin has already had two of his actions against you overturned on appeal, admits to being biased against you, and his theory of the ban was "it was an evil plot by you to murder innocents" there is a reason to go into detail about all the many ways the ban is bullshit.dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:35 pmIt's hard to top that you said more during your ban appeal than you did during your entire in game career but the peanut should have stayed open regardless.
Especially because despite that AwkwardStereo still managed to fuck the whole thing up by failing to understand how SEC works on tramstation.
The best part is that after the admins gave the whole big "I'm an admin, of course I know how SEC works!" speech the headmin decided the ban would stick because of course the mime(who was Lucy Cicero) must've made the same mistake they did, and of course it was a reasonable and easy to make mistake, because the alternative is climbing down and admitting they got the facts wrong.
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Re: No good ban appeals
Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:58 amWhen the ban issuing admin has already had two of his actions against you overturned on appeal, admits to being biased against you, and his theory of the ban was "it was an evil plot by you to murder innocents" there is a reason to go into detail about all the many ways the ban is bullshit.dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:35 pmIt's hard to top that you said more during your ban appeal than you did during your entire in game career but the peanut should have stayed open regardless.
Especially because despite that AwkwardStereo still managed to fuck the whole thing up by failing to understand how SEC works on tramstation.
The best part is that after the admins gave the whole big "I'm an admin, of course I know how SEC works!" speech the headmin decided the ban would stick because of course the mime(who was Lucy Cicero) must've made the same mistake they did, and of course it was a reasonable and easy to make mistake, because the alternative is climbing down and admitting they got the facts wrong.
More words in this post then you’ve said all month playing sec
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Re: No good ban appeals
Good morning sirs, this is now the designated zyb peanut
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Re: No good ban appeals
They deserve to have a Player Feedback sub forum the way Admin Feedback is a thing.
Once you enter that daunted realm, you will see your thread locked only on redemption or exile.
Once you enter that daunted realm, you will see your thread locked only on redemption or exile.
Re: No good ban appeals
When you become an admin does your player feedback get migrated to your admin feedback?
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Re: No good ban appeals
The kind of players that get put in the player feedback forum make that question purely rhetorical.chocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:21 pmWhen you become an admin does your player feedback get migrated to your admin feedback?
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Re: No good ban appeals
you were dragging the mime to the brig
the mime was grabbed and taken
you grabbed the mime back
you brought the mime into the brig
you executed the mime
had you not executed the mime you would have been fine
add all of these concepts together to one sentence and you have:
The weak should fear the strong
thehogshotgun wrote:How does having jannies like you, who have more brain tumor than brain benefit the server
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Re: No good ban appeals
Timberpoes upheld the ban because the mime wasn't valid.
He sez mime wasn't valid because the mime was resisting permanent imprisonment.
But the mime wasn't resisting permanent imprisonment. Mime was only threatened(after walking down to the permabrig and pointing at the entrance) with being put into the permabrig. Which is where temporary sentences get served on tramstation.
Timberpoes doesn't know this about tramstation until I point it out, after Timberpoes has already closed the thread.
So he sez mime wasn't valid because the mime must've thought they were resisting permanent imprisonment. Why?
Not because the mime said so. AwkwardStereo never bothered to talk to them before banning me, for some reason.
Not because the mime had a good reason to have thought that. The mime, https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/ckey/helplesscrane, has a ton of rounds as SEC, including as SEC on tramstation.
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Re: No good ban appeals
lol zyb the fact you stopped playing because of your sec ban proves you're a loser that only played for yourself and to make others miserable
you've written more in your ahelps + post forums than your entire SAY logs in the server
stay gone until you learn that this is a multiplayer game and not your ego stroking material
you've written more in your ahelps + post forums than your entire SAY logs in the server
stay gone until you learn that this is a multiplayer game and not your ego stroking material
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Re: No good ban appeals
The ban was because you killed the mime for being pulled from brig by a simple mob after they nonharmfully tided in brig.
The ban was because you killed the mime for being pulled from brig by a simple mob after they nonharmfully tided in brig.
The ban was because you killed the mime for being pulled from brig by a simple mob after they nonharmfully tided in brig.
The ban was because you killed the mime for being pulled from brig by a simple mob after they nonharmfully tided in brig.
How many times do we have to state this
The ban was because you killed the mime for being pulled from brig by a simple mob after they nonharmfully tided in brig.
The ban was because you killed the mime for being pulled from brig by a simple mob after they nonharmfully tided in brig.
The ban was because you killed the mime for being pulled from brig by a simple mob after they nonharmfully tided in brig.
How many times do we have to state this
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Re: No good ban appeals
It's not shut updirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:55 pm Good morning sirs, this is now the designated zyb peanut
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Re: No good ban appeals
Hey buddy bring it up with the headmins not with me. It was Timberpoes who said it was because the mime must've not understood tramstation brig precisely the same way Timberpoes didn't, thus making it not valid. I'm just relaying the admin's stated reason.
Also trespassing into the brig and spending half a minute trying to baton a seccie is not "nonharmfully" anything.
Reverse Order Ranked List of People To Take Advice From on What Sort Of Stroking Is Appropriate on TGStation:wubli wrote: ↑
- if you want to write smut of someone's character, it's in good faith to ask them first. sexual stuff can be really uncomfortable to some people, and even if you aren't emotionally attached to your character, the fact that someone who you've played with decided they wanted to write about your character getting railed and didn't even dare to ask you if it was okay, is really weird, creepy, and disrespectful.
- it's more of an attitude issue. you saw someone playing and said "i am going to write smut about them". why would you do that? because you're horny for them? because you're pissed off at them? because it's funny - for yourself, somehow? is it so hard to consider how the other person would feel about it? must we truly be simply hostile with everyone we meet and disregard their feelings every single time just because it's the internet? what is your goal by writing smut about someone's character when they potentially don't want it?
- would you say the same if this was a DM staging a sexual abuse scene for one of the player's characters? do you really not see how that could be uncomfortable for the player?
- i've had nsfw art of my character drawn by someone. it's just nudity and not really porn, but it was nice of the person to ask me. i don't have a problem with sexual content itself, it's just basic decency to ask first. clarifying this so you don't think i am simply a prude who hates sex or having their character sexualized in any way
- no one can really stop you from jerking off to characters or even writing smut or drawing someone's static with massive tiddies, but it's really not hard to not post it online. like it or not, your character is something *you* control and if some weirdo writes about it getting fucked and posts it online, they probably want a reaction out of you. if you can ahelp someone for being weird to you IC, there is no reason why you would be able to write about it and post it.
stop trying to convince yourself that this is other people's faults for "being too attached to their ocs" and please try to understand that this is a massive boundaries issue and it's honestly impressive it has gone for this long when it's as easy as "please ask me before writing about my character taking twelve inches of dick"
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Re: No good ban appeals
dude are you six years old? that's your response to one of several people saying you suck as a person? you are a pathetic loser
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Requesting underage ban for Zybwivcz
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Re: No good ban appeals
jesus fucking christ zyb would you please stop digging your own grave and just fucking talk to people and make friends
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Re: No good ban appeals
That's where you're wrongtechnokek wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:25 amIt's not shut updirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:55 pm Good morning sirs, this is now the designated zyb peanut
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Re: No good ban appeals
i'm surprised nabski of all people is saying that because i figured he was old enough to remember ban requests, which was basically that
Head Coder of /tg/station, hi!Shaps-cloud wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:59 am May eventually become one of the illusive maintainer-headmins if they choose to pursue that path, having a coder in the senior admin leadership has usually been positive for both sides in the past.
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No-one said it was a good idea, just a good source of drama.Mothblocks wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:07 am i'm surprised nabski of all people is saying that because i figured he was old enough to remember ban requests, which was basically that
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Re: No good ban appeals
lets goooo
Head Coder of /tg/station, hi!Shaps-cloud wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:59 am May eventually become one of the illusive maintainer-headmins if they choose to pursue that path, having a coder in the senior admin leadership has usually been positive for both sides in the past.
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Re: No good ban appeals
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Re: No good ban appeals
My brother in Christ being an NPC that random names, says only 15 things every round and playing exclusively to baton antags isn’t robust, it’s psychotic
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Re: No good ban appeals
Ok virgin lol
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Re: No good ban appeals
Sorry to all virgins youre valid except zyb because I dont like you and that was a really pathetic response
My post: Maybe you should be mindful when writing literal porn of other peoples character
zyb: (quote) This you?
Stay gone loser
My post: Maybe you should be mindful when writing literal porn of other peoples character
zyb: (quote) This you?
Stay gone loser
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Re: No good ban appeals
Zyb, my beloved fellow security player. There is a disagreement between you and the headmin about this ban. You believe it was done in error. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter, you are banned. So the only thing to do now is to reflect. Why did this happen to you specifically? Perma sec bans made in error are awfully rare, aren't they?
If you truly turned inward and reflected you would come to the conclusion that it was your overall playstyle that got you banned, not killing a greytiding mime in the brig. That is what you needed to change. Tackling these individual cases is a waste of time because at the end of the day, they are just manifestations of the underlying issue:
You need to focus more on having-a-good-time-with-others, and less on removing antagonists from the station wordlessly. It's really that simple. Security's job often involves opposing antagonists, to be sure. But your job as a player of SS13, is to try to make the game more fun. When others are having more fun you will suddenly find that you, too, are having more fun.
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Re: No good ban appeals
Going to second this slightly, zyb, by recommending you ghost observe sinfulbliss a few rounds as sec officer because I want to hate him due to getting robusted a few times but his playstyle is actually pretty even handed as sec officer throughout his rounds.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:26 pmZyb, my beloved fellow security player. There is a disagreement between you and the headmin about this ban. You believe it was done in error. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter, you are banned. So the only thing to do now is to reflect. Why did this happen to you specifically? Perma sec bans made in error are awfully rare, aren't they?
If you truly turned inward and reflected you would come to the conclusion that it was your overall playstyle that got you banned, not killing a greytiding mime in the brig. That is what you needed to change. Tackling these individual cases is a waste of time because at the end of the day, they are just manifestations of the underlying issue:
You need to focus more on having-a-good-time-with-others, and less on removing antagonists from the station wordlessly. It's really that simple. Security's job often involves opposing antagonists, to be sure. But your job as a player of SS13, is to try to make the game more fun. When others are having more fun you will suddenly find that you, too, are having more fun.
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Re: No good ban appeals
I can and will lock this thread just to prove that I am right and you smelldirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:41 amThat's where you're wrongtechnokek wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:25 amIt's not shut updirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:55 pm Good morning sirs, this is now the designated zyb peanut
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