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Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
So far RaveRadbury is my top pick for wanting streaming enabled. It's the obvious play for longevity and bringing in new players.
Hope to see more candidates weigh in on that and specifics about silicon policy. If Sticky makes a thread proposing "make it just follow your laws" I'll be really hard pressed to pick between him and Rave, since I want +streaming and just gutting silicon policy.
Hope to see more candidates weigh in on that and specifics about silicon policy. If Sticky makes a thread proposing "make it just follow your laws" I'll be really hard pressed to pick between him and Rave, since I want +streaming and just gutting silicon policy.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
From the current candidates list I'm expecting/hoping for rave to snag player vote - unsure about admin vote, and considering I'm basically running for admin vote I'd be a little sad if rave ended up snagging that one. PE's is nice, but it's very MRP focused, and I don't think that 3 MRPmins is the sanest idea - and the glow is killing me (I'm sorry PE)
Fikou seems like he's liable to burn out again, Wiggle's... leaves room to want more, but I can respect the "running to get their opinions out there" grindset
San literally has 80% of his post dedicated to who he is and has like 3 short lines about his actual policies at the bottom. Not great i think
Eronymun is a really strong contender for the rabbit vote
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Fikou seems like he's liable to burn out again, Wiggle's... leaves room to want more, but I can respect the "running to get their opinions out there" grindset
San literally has 80% of his post dedicated to who he is and has like 3 short lines about his actual policies at the bottom. Not great i think
Eronymun is a really strong contender for the rabbit vote
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Twitch users are nearly as bad as Redditors thoughImitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:58 pm So far RaveRadbury is my top pick for wanting streaming enabled. It's the obvious play for longevity and bringing in new players.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Jokes on you, from whatever date rule 11 was implemented, this IS digg.Farquaar wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:23 pmTwitch users are nearly as bad as Redditors thoughImitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:58 pm So far RaveRadbury is my top pick for wanting streaming enabled. It's the obvious play for longevity and bringing in new players.
Also, I hope Rave gets a little bit more specific regarding what he mentioned about validhunting Borg's in his thread.
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Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:39 pm Jokes on you, from whatever date rule 11 was implemented, this IS digg.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
I'm feeling absolutely great about this run this time around. One of my points is in opposition to Rave's so it'll be interesting to see how everything goes in that regard; killing greytiding vs keeping it going strong. Can't wait!
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Streaming can't be controlled well it's a easy way to gain meta information + youtube promoted ss13 aswell (ssethtide) so we don't need thisImitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:58 pm So far RaveRadbury is my top pick for wanting streaming enabled. It's the obvious play for longevity and bringing in new players.
+ rave advocates for pacifism bans which aren't good at all because what if you're being attacked by somebody? Well now you cannot fight back because a admin "pacifism banned" you what if you're antag? Seems like a bad idea tbh
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
have you tried not getting banned
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
My top votes so far are going to be San, Fikou, and Keith in some order. Reasons why:
- San is an very reliable maintainer and admin, never had a bad experience with them. Perhaps wouldn't be making any radical changes but stands as a solid choice.
- Fikou is very dedicated to the game and I'd be interested in seeing how his server population growth strategy would play out. One concern is even though we've made significant strides in free lag reduction in the past year alone, can the server reasonably handle 120 people and still play well?
- Keith because I always like the idea of a player advocate and unlike some of those similar candidates in the past, Keith's platform is a lot more reasonable. Less fire and brimstone and more open communication and mending of issues. Also support keeping greytiding to some extent because traitors don't cause enough ruckus anymore to warrant its removal.
- San is an very reliable maintainer and admin, never had a bad experience with them. Perhaps wouldn't be making any radical changes but stands as a solid choice.
- Fikou is very dedicated to the game and I'd be interested in seeing how his server population growth strategy would play out. One concern is even though we've made significant strides in free lag reduction in the past year alone, can the server reasonably handle 120 people and still play well?
- Keith because I always like the idea of a player advocate and unlike some of those similar candidates in the past, Keith's platform is a lot more reasonable. Less fire and brimstone and more open communication and mending of issues. Also support keeping greytiding to some extent because traitors don't cause enough ruckus anymore to warrant its removal.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Idk man headmin predictions aren't usually correctIndie-ana Jones wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:56 pm Top votes so far are going to be San, Fikou, and Keith in some order. Reasons why:
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Pretty sure we're both looking for a middling approach to greytide, just as I'm not looking to have people banned over grabbing insuls likewise I'd assume that you'd take issue with people who are chronically making the game unfun with their greytiding choices?
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
If you can't escape an attack without killing them, then you could probably use the time as a pacifist to make you more robust.
(and just, y'know. don't get banned. the alternative is you'd get a server ban, at least you still get to play this way.)
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
an SS14 server sounds really interesting though i wonder how likely it is to actually happen
there’s probably a lot of stuff that needs to be decided on but hopefully it can be done
there’s probably a lot of stuff that needs to be decided on but hopefully it can be done
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
You say in your thread that you want a crackdown on lrp greytiding for more freedom. This doesn't present the idea of a moderate approach. I'm also content with the current state of greytiding and want to keep it as it is.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:09 pmPretty sure we're both looking for a middling approach to greytide, just as I'm not looking to have people banned over grabbing insuls likewise I'd assume that you'd take issue with people who are chronically making the game unfun with their greytiding choices?
Furthermore, what you've said here is: "i assume we're both going for a moderate point here??? i'm fine with people getting insuls and i assume that you're against grief??? right????? " Which isn't really constructive nor does it do either of our takes any justice.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
The man can't say he's against grief for some reason.kieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:43 pmYou say in your thread that you want a crackdown on lrp greytiding for more freedom. This doesn't present the idea of a moderate approach. I'm also content with the current state of greytiding and want to keep it as it is.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:09 pmPretty sure we're both looking for a middling approach to greytide, just as I'm not looking to have people banned over grabbing insuls likewise I'd assume that you'd take issue with people who are chronically making the game unfun with their greytiding choices?
Furthermore, what you've said here is: "i assume we're both going for a moderate point here??? i'm fine with people getting insuls and i assume that you're against grief??? right????? " Which isn't really constructive nor does it do either of our takes any justice.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
This is an absolute misrepresentation of my point but you're already aware of that I think. Trying very hard to mischaracterize me as I obviously do not support grief.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:22 pmThe man can't say he's against grief for some reason.kieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:43 pmYou say in your thread that you want a crackdown on lrp greytiding for more freedom. This doesn't present the idea of a moderate approach. I'm also content with the current state of greytiding and want to keep it as it is.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:09 pmPretty sure we're both looking for a middling approach to greytide, just as I'm not looking to have people banned over grabbing insuls likewise I'd assume that you'd take issue with people who are chronically making the game unfun with their greytiding choices?
Furthermore, what you've said here is: "i assume we're both going for a moderate point here??? i'm fine with people getting insuls and i assume that you're against grief??? right????? " Which isn't really constructive nor does it do either of our takes any justice.
The whole point of your post was trying to back me into a corner. If I agreed with you, we'd be very similar in our points(Which you know is not the case). If I disagreed- you'd say that I support grief.
No idea why you're so hell-bent on trying to do this but you do you I guess.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Do you take issue with people who are chronically making the game unfun with their greytiding choiceskieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:45 pmThis is an absolute misrepresentation of my point but you're already aware of that I think. Trying very hard to mischaracterize me as I obviously do not support grief.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:22 pmThe man can't say he's against grief for some reason.kieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:43 pmYou say in your thread that you want a crackdown on lrp greytiding for more freedom. This doesn't present the idea of a moderate approach. I'm also content with the current state of greytiding and want to keep it as it is.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:09 pmPretty sure we're both looking for a middling approach to greytide, just as I'm not looking to have people banned over grabbing insuls likewise I'd assume that you'd take issue with people who are chronically making the game unfun with their greytiding choices?
Furthermore, what you've said here is: "i assume we're both going for a moderate point here??? i'm fine with people getting insuls and i assume that you're against grief??? right????? " Which isn't really constructive nor does it do either of our takes any justice.
The whole point of your post was trying to back me into a corner. If I agreed with you, we'd be very similar in our points(Which you know is not the case). If I disagreed- you'd say that I support grief.
No idea why you're so hell-bent on trying to do this but you do you I guess.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Running away from a aggressor takes quite literally less skill then fighting off one! So you're most definitely wrong in this point. Also I do not think its OK for players to lose their fighting abilities by administrative action.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:40 pm If you can't escape an attack without killing them, then you could probably use the time as a pacifist to make you more robust.
Maybe if they made it like the chaplain sect thing where if somebody attacks you then you can attack them back because that's only fair is it?
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
My brother in christ I was trying to find common ground with you and possibly have fruitful discussion. This is something we might have to do if we end up working together. Why would I try to start a fight with someone I might have to cooperate with soon?kieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:45 pmThis is an absolute misrepresentation of my point but you're already aware of that I think. Trying very hard to mischaracterize me as I obviously do not support grief.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:22 pmThe man can't say he's against grief for some reason.kieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:43 pmYou say in your thread that you want a crackdown on lrp greytiding for more freedom. This doesn't present the idea of a moderate approach. I'm also content with the current state of greytiding and want to keep it as it is.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:09 pmPretty sure we're both looking for a middling approach to greytide, just as I'm not looking to have people banned over grabbing insuls likewise I'd assume that you'd take issue with people who are chronically making the game unfun with their greytiding choices?
Furthermore, what you've said here is: "i assume we're both going for a moderate point here??? i'm fine with people getting insuls and i assume that you're against grief??? right????? " Which isn't really constructive nor does it do either of our takes any justice.
The whole point of your post was trying to back me into a corner. If I agreed with you, we'd be very similar in our points(Which you know is not the case). If I disagreed- you'd say that I support grief.
No idea why you're so hell-bent on trying to do this but you do you I guess.
Now granted, I did tease you in my response to your response, and I'll own that and apologize. Sorry for saying cheeky things to wind you up.
We are similar in our points, it's pretty unavoidable because neither of us can be radical in them. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging it.
Anyways, I won't trouble you any further as it does seem like you're pretty keyed up and feeling cornered.
Hope you do well in the election! I've always been a fan of your hustle.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Keith looks like the cool guy candidate this round, best of luck.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
And what are these choices? This is such a subjective question. Some people cry as soon as someone steps into their department- for them, the game is made chronically unfun when people do this. Are these the greytiding choices that you're referring to??? Some people get upset when the fucking fire lockers have no fire extinguishers because they have been tided. I take no issue with these. Are these the people who make the game chronically unfun??NoxVS wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:48 pmDo you take issue with people who are chronically making the game unfun with their greytiding choiceskieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:45 pmThis is an absolute misrepresentation of my point but you're already aware of that I think. Trying very hard to mischaracterize me as I obviously do not support grief.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:22 pmThe man can't say he's against grief for some reason.kieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:43 pmYou say in your thread that you want a crackdown on lrp greytiding for more freedom. This doesn't present the idea of a moderate approach. I'm also content with the current state of greytiding and want to keep it as it is.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:09 pmPretty sure we're both looking for a middling approach to greytide, just as I'm not looking to have people banned over grabbing insuls likewise I'd assume that you'd take issue with people who are chronically making the game unfun with their greytiding choices?
Furthermore, what you've said here is: "i assume we're both going for a moderate point here??? i'm fine with people getting insuls and i assume that you're against grief??? right????? " Which isn't really constructive nor does it do either of our takes any justice.
The whole point of your post was trying to back me into a corner. If I agreed with you, we'd be very similar in our points(Which you know is not the case). If I disagreed- you'd say that I support grief.
No idea why you're so hell-bent on trying to do this but you do you I guess.
Do I take an issue with people randomly jumping others and stealing their ids? Yes.
You're trying to take a broad topic that is essentially unique to every single player and condense it into a rather stupid statement that means nothing.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Wishing you the best also. Absolutely no hard feelings here, I'm sorry if my style of typing and response makes you feel that I'm keyed up or whatever. I'm pretty chill!RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:53 pmMy brother in christ I was trying to find common ground with you and possibly have fruitful discussion. This is something we might have to do if we end up working together. Why would I try to start a fight with someone I might have to cooperate with soon?kieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:45 pmThis is an absolute misrepresentation of my point but you're already aware of that I think. Trying very hard to mischaracterize me as I obviously do not support grief.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:22 pmThe man can't say he's against grief for some reason.kieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:43 pmYou say in your thread that you want a crackdown on lrp greytiding for more freedom. This doesn't present the idea of a moderate approach. I'm also content with the current state of greytiding and want to keep it as it is.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:09 pmPretty sure we're both looking for a middling approach to greytide, just as I'm not looking to have people banned over grabbing insuls likewise I'd assume that you'd take issue with people who are chronically making the game unfun with their greytiding choices?
Furthermore, what you've said here is: "i assume we're both going for a moderate point here??? i'm fine with people getting insuls and i assume that you're against grief??? right????? " Which isn't really constructive nor does it do either of our takes any justice.
The whole point of your post was trying to back me into a corner. If I agreed with you, we'd be very similar in our points(Which you know is not the case). If I disagreed- you'd say that I support grief.
No idea why you're so hell-bent on trying to do this but you do you I guess.
Now granted, I did tease you in my response to your response, and I'll own that and apologize. Sorry for saying cheeky things to wind you up.
We are similar in our points, it's pretty unavoidable because neither of us can be radical in them. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging it.
Anyways, I won't trouble you any further as it does seem like you're pretty keyed up and feeling cornered.
Hope you do well in the election! I've always been a fan of your hustle.
Have a good one!
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
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let's keep the great maintainer headmincy going by voting in fikou and san
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now wasn't that easy to make less clutter? as a future headmin you will all have to learn.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
But towers are funny...cybersaber101 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:34 pmnow wasn't that easy to make less clutter? as a future headmin you will all have to learn.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Very coolcybersaber101 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:34 pmnow wasn't that easy to make less clutter? as a future headmin you will all have to learn.kieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:58 pmkieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:58 pmWishing you the best also. Absolutely no hard feelings here, I'm sorry if my style of typing and response makes you feel that I'm keyed up or whatever. I'm pretty chill!RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:53 pmMy brother in christ I was trying to find common ground with you and possibly have fruitful discussion. This is something we might have to do if we end up working together. Why would I try to start a fight with someone I might have to cooperate with soon?kieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:45 pmThis is an absolute misrepresentation of my point but you're already aware of that I think. Trying very hard to mischaracterize me as I obviously do not support grief.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:22 pmThe man can't say he's against grief for some reason.kieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:43 pmYou say in your thread that you want a crackdown on lrp greytiding for more freedom. This doesn't present the idea of a moderate approach. I'm also content with the current state of greytiding and want to keep it as it is.RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:09 pmPretty sure we're both looking for a middling approach to greytide, just as I'm not looking to have people banned over grabbing insuls likewise I'd assume that you'd take issue with people who are chronically making the game unfun with their greytiding choices?
Furthermore, what you've said here is: "i assume we're both going for a moderate point here??? i'm fine with people getting insuls and i assume that you're against grief??? right????? " Which isn't really constructive nor does it do either of our takes any justice.
The whole point of your post was trying to back me into a corner. If I agreed with you, we'd be very similar in our points(Which you know is not the case). If I disagreed- you'd say that I support grief.
No idea why you're so hell-bent on trying to do this but you do you I guess.
Now granted, I did tease you in my response to your response, and I'll own that and apologize. Sorry for saying cheeky things to wind you up.
We are similar in our points, it's pretty unavoidable because neither of us can be radical in them. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging it.
Anyways, I won't trouble you any further as it does seem like you're pretty keyed up and feeling cornered.
Hope you do well in the election! I've always been a fan of your hustle.
Have a good one!
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
I think over the last few years enforcement has been approached much tighter in many areas. In many ways this is a great thing - especially for things like rule 11, where two years ago this sort of discourse was commonplace on TG, and completely status quo:
This drove away new players because of the toxic 4chan-esque atmosphere. That bled into rounds and the same occurred on servers. When you compare that era to today's TG, it's certainly a net improvement.
That said, and what I believe Keith is getting at, is admins are often more hands-on than they need to be. In 2018 I remember regularly getting flossed on by assistants as a noobie sec player, for no real reason other than that I was doing my job which was going against the greytider's goals. But some of my fondest memories are rounds in which this happened. The lawlessness and chaotic atmosphere that nonantags were allowed to engage in, within reason, was a great part of SS13.
Many admins still have this philosophy, and prefer to let things transpire IC naturally. Is the brig timer under 10 minutes? "IC issue, retaliate against sec how you like if it was unjust." Was someone torching you with a welder as an officer? "Feel free to execute them." Did the chemist get attacked after drilling an assistant in the head for breaking into his department? Well, that's how the cookie crumbles!
Now these situations are often treated very differently. I've received bwoinks for as little as 2-minute sentences, because the player ahelped and the admin investigated it seriously, which creates positive reinforcement to ahelp even the most IC of IC issues. Why retaliate IC when you can get the other player bwoinked for 20 minutes over it instead?
The escalation rules have been expanded in a way that they no longer make sense. Players are expected to drag the person who tried to chop their head off to medbay after the fight. Players that are killed or crit are expected to forget the fight ever happened, because the conflict "ended." In practice no one does this, and many admins don't enforce this because it's counterintuitive. If the recommendation is to ahelp every time you are escalated against instead of figuring it out IC, then it just moves the conflict to the admins and takes it away from the round.
So what I think Lukas is trying to argue, is simply that greytiding should be enforced in a more commonsense way. To prevent serious grief against players that ruins their rounds. Not to nitpick at every interaction and conflict that occurs, because this is part and parcel of what drives action and excitement in what would otherwise be a job simulator.
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That said, and what I believe Keith is getting at, is admins are often more hands-on than they need to be. In 2018 I remember regularly getting flossed on by assistants as a noobie sec player, for no real reason other than that I was doing my job which was going against the greytider's goals. But some of my fondest memories are rounds in which this happened. The lawlessness and chaotic atmosphere that nonantags were allowed to engage in, within reason, was a great part of SS13.
Many admins still have this philosophy, and prefer to let things transpire IC naturally. Is the brig timer under 10 minutes? "IC issue, retaliate against sec how you like if it was unjust." Was someone torching you with a welder as an officer? "Feel free to execute them." Did the chemist get attacked after drilling an assistant in the head for breaking into his department? Well, that's how the cookie crumbles!
Now these situations are often treated very differently. I've received bwoinks for as little as 2-minute sentences, because the player ahelped and the admin investigated it seriously, which creates positive reinforcement to ahelp even the most IC of IC issues. Why retaliate IC when you can get the other player bwoinked for 20 minutes over it instead?
The escalation rules have been expanded in a way that they no longer make sense. Players are expected to drag the person who tried to chop their head off to medbay after the fight. Players that are killed or crit are expected to forget the fight ever happened, because the conflict "ended." In practice no one does this, and many admins don't enforce this because it's counterintuitive. If the recommendation is to ahelp every time you are escalated against instead of figuring it out IC, then it just moves the conflict to the admins and takes it away from the round.
So what I think Lukas is trying to argue, is simply that greytiding should be enforced in a more commonsense way. To prevent serious grief against players that ruins their rounds. Not to nitpick at every interaction and conflict that occurs, because this is part and parcel of what drives action and excitement in what would otherwise be a job simulator.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Choices this year are not too exciting or interesting but I would love to see Rave or Omega win
I probably would like san too but their thread is in plain text and my eyes glazed through trying to read it
I probably would like san too but their thread is in plain text and my eyes glazed through trying to read it
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
It’ll be fixed when I get computer accessMothblocks wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:59 pm -snip-
I probably would like san too but their thread is in plain text and my eyes glazed through trying to read it
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This is absolutely how I feel.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:53 pm I think over the last few years enforcement has been approached much tighter in many areas. In many ways this is a great thing - especially for things like rule 11, where two years ago this sort of discourse was commonplace on TG, and completely status quo:This drove away new players because of the toxic 4chan-esque atmosphere. That bled into rounds and the same occurred on servers. When you compare that era to today's TG, it's certainly a net improvement.Spoiler:
That said, and what I believe Keith is getting at, is admins are often more hands-on than they need to be. In 2018 I remember regularly getting flossed on by assistants as a noobie sec player, for no real reason other than that I was doing my job which was going against the greytider's goals. But some of my fondest memories are rounds in which this happened. The lawlessness and chaotic atmosphere that nonantags were allowed to engage in, within reason, was a great part of SS13.
Many admins still have this philosophy, and prefer to let things transpire IC naturally. Is the brig timer under 10 minutes? "IC issue, retaliate against sec how you like if it was unjust." Was someone torching you with a welder as an officer? "Feel free to execute them." Did the chemist get attacked after drilling an assistant in the head for breaking into his department? Well, that's how the cookie crumbles!
Now these situations are often treated very differently. I've received bwoinks for as little as 2-minute sentences, because the player ahelped and the admin investigated it seriously, which creates positive reinforcement to ahelp even the most IC of IC issues. Why retaliate IC when you can get the other player bwoinked for 20 minutes over it instead?
The escalation rules have been expanded in a way that they no longer make sense. Players are expected to drag the person who tried to chop their head off to medbay after the fight. Players that are killed or crit are expected to forget the fight ever happened, because the conflict "ended." In practice no one does this, and many admins don't enforce this because it's counterintuitive. If the recommendation is to ahelp every time you are escalated against instead of figuring it out IC, then it just moves the conflict to the admins and takes it away from the round.
So what I think Lukas is trying to argue, is simply that greytiding should be enforced in a more commonsense way. To prevent serious grief against players that ruins their rounds. Not to nitpick at every interaction and conflict that occurs, because this is part and parcel of what drives action and excitement in what would otherwise be a job simulator.
Great post.
Without greytiding to spice up the rounds I don't feel that the game experience would be as familiar or as fun- obviously- blatant griefing should be punished, (I feel that it already is to a very good extent) but tiding itself should remain strong. We want conflicts, we want funny thing to happen hell- Engineers are christened and inducted into the creed when they dust their first rider. I want these interactions to stay strong.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
that would be pretty funnyiwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:22 pm let's keep the great maintainer headmincy going by voting in fikou and san
Mothblocks wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:59 pm Choices this year are not too exciting or interesting but I would love to see Rave or Omega win
I probably would like san too but their thread is in plain text and my eyes glazed through trying to read it
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how will this effect the peanut thread quality
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
vote for lukas
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
I think I’d like rave and lukas to win, that’d be a neat triumvirate with spook in the mix (). Wouldn’t mind omega, solely for their takes on training and applicants. Can’t wait to ask some questions.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Just yesterday I got cuffed, fullstripped, and given cat ears as an officer. I then went on a 20 minute revenge plot to catch them, and created a funny little glass jail display of the two people that did it. I could have also had no chill and just ahelped, at which point they would have probably just been asked to uncuff me and return my stuff. But that would have eliminated the entire IC conflict that we had, and the fun story it created.kieth4 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:40 pm Without greytiding to spice up the rounds I don't feel that the game experience would be as familiar or as fun- obviously- blatant griefing should be punished, (I feel that it already is to a very good extent) but tiding itself should remain strong. We want conflicts, we want funny thing to happen hell- Engineers are christened and inducted into the creed when they dust their first rider. I want these interactions to stay strong.
Players who want to just do their jobs undisturbed with absolutely no conflict or negative experiences are better off playing on a higher RP server. I don't say that in an incendiary way - I've played MRP hundreds of hours myself. You play LRP if you want to take the game a little bit lighter and invite a little chaos into your shift.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Much better. Still a bit clunky but you would do great in the seat I thinksan7890 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:19 pmIt’ll be fixed when I get computer accessMothblocks wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:59 pm -snip-
I probably would like san too but their thread is in plain text and my eyes glazed through trying to read it
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
only rave talked about silicon policy so +1 for him also pacifism bans sounds like a good idea to laser scalpel shitters
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
I don’t personally get talking about proposed policy in your platform (which is why I don’t have any). I get you can have pre-conceptions about certain policy and really angle through that, but I’d personally just let the questions come in and I’ll work them through.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
What you see as of this moment there is my partially failed attempt to forum-post on mobile. I have a crack team doing Double Blind Studies, Consumer Feedback, UI/UX testing as we speak. It will soon be very palatable.Mothblocks wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:55 am -snip-
Much better. Still a bit clunky but you would do great in the seat I think
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Your thoughts on policy topics that come up all the time in discussion like silicon policy are great things to put in, as long as you remember that the most important part of who you pick as head admin is their ability to fight for you and keep on top of things. Rave is the most apt to be talking about policy since they already very much understand that
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
who the hell is this SpaceSmithers guy the candidates are talking about
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
I made a thread when I told everyone I wasn't, I know I'm not gonna get voted its more to get my ideas out and spread them.
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
pacifism bans will be the hot thing for a week until some shitter realizes they can just release plasma or space the station to get around it and then nobody will ever use them again
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Re: Headmin Election 16 Discussion Thread
Delaminates ur supermatteriwishforducks wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:37 pm pacifism bans will be the hot thing for a week until some shitter realizes they can just release plasma or space the station to get around it and then nobody will ever use them again
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