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Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
I think we should ban MSO and make him feel the pain he's dealt.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
Day ban without explanation, even when asked is just plain shitty moderation
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
I normally stick up for MSO, but this is pretty baffling. Goof's a dumbass, yeah, but he wasn't being one this time.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
He was only banned for like fifteen minutes before he removed it, literally who gives a shit
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
None of those even apply because i handle criticism well but can't handle stupid and this is all about how to handle things said to you but goof wasn't even talking to me.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
bruh it was meant in response to goof making an admin complaint over this
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
I see so many people mad at this, but I must agree with thomas. Who gives a fuck lol?
Idrc about the intention behind the 15min (spare me, this was 15min, not 24hr); if you fill in an admin complaint because the Host muted you for 15min as he tried to explain something to you, you really gotta grow some thicker skin.
Idrc about the intention behind the 15min (spare me, this was 15min, not 24hr); if you fill in an admin complaint because the Host muted you for 15min as he tried to explain something to you, you really gotta grow some thicker skin.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
It's important to highlight that this one-day ban was lifted 14 minutes later by MSO himself again, so to be fair, it was undone fairly quickly.
I still think it's something that shouldn't be done. Sure you'll get timed out every once in a while as a joke, when it is understood to be in made in jest. This kind of pre-emptive banning though, just to cut people out from a discussion, that violates the trust that we as players put into the administration, even if it's just for a couple of minutes.
You get taken out of the discussion, and you'll look stupid appealing or complaining about it, because oh, it's just a couple of minutes. But the thing you wanted to talk about, that's gone, everyone said their piece, but you couldn't.
And who is to say, you're not going to eat another one if you try to talk about it anyway? It's just bad practice, and it makes you feel like you're living under the thumb of a bunch of cronies.
If you disagree with them, say your opinion and give them a chance to respond, simple as that.
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I still think it's something that shouldn't be done. Sure you'll get timed out every once in a while as a joke, when it is understood to be in made in jest. This kind of pre-emptive banning though, just to cut people out from a discussion, that violates the trust that we as players put into the administration, even if it's just for a couple of minutes.
You get taken out of the discussion, and you'll look stupid appealing or complaining about it, because oh, it's just a couple of minutes. But the thing you wanted to talk about, that's gone, everyone said their piece, but you couldn't.
And who is to say, you're not going to eat another one if you try to talk about it anyway? It's just bad practice, and it makes you feel like you're living under the thumb of a bunch of cronies.
If you disagree with them, say your opinion and give them a chance to respond, simple as that.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
My inner Poster says "If Goof didn't want a timeout, he should not have said Amogus"
It also says ඞ
My actual proper admin says even lifting it so soon, and even doing it to goof, isn't great. Even if some/many of goof's ideas are bad, there's a real human being behind the keyboard who is advocating for what he believes will improve the game. He doesn't really deserve this.
It also says ඞ
My actual proper admin says even lifting it so soon, and even doing it to goof, isn't great. Even if some/many of goof's ideas are bad, there's a real human being behind the keyboard who is advocating for what he believes will improve the game. He doesn't really deserve this.
(2:53:35 AM) scaredofshadows: how about head of robutts
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
100 percent truth.Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:10 pm My inner Poster says "If Goof didn't want a timeout, he should not have said Amogus"
It also says ඞ
My actual proper admin says even lifting it so soon, and even doing it to goof, isn't great. Even if some/many of goof's ideas are bad, there's a real human being behind the keyboard who is advocating for what he believes will improve the game. He doesn't really deserve this.
at the end of the day we should all REALLY be focusing on bullying lucy fucking cicero
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
so true bestieKendrickorium wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 1:23 am at the end of the day we should all REALLY be focusing on bullying lucy fucking cicero
(2:53:35 AM) scaredofshadows: how about head of robutts
I once wrote a guide to fixing telecomms woohoo
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
The coder purge continues
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
First they came for the spammers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a spammer.
Then they came for the politics posters, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a politics poster.
Then they came for the annoying fucks, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not an annoying fuck.
Then they never came for me lmao.
Because I was not a spammer.
Then they came for the politics posters, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a politics poster.
Then they came for the annoying fucks, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not an annoying fuck.
Then they never came for me lmao.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
If goof had those extra 15 minutes then we'd be 15 minutes closer to amongus us wires, MSO is clearly insane.
The same poster, over and over and over and over and over and-
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
I’m all three of these things wat doRohen_Tahir wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:08 am First they came for the spammers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a spammer.
Then they came for the politics posters, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a politics poster.
Then they came for the annoying fucks, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not an annoying fuck.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
run for headmin and become unstoppablesan7890 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:28 pmI’m all three of these things wat doRohen_Tahir wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:08 am First they came for the spammers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a spammer.
Then they came for the politics posters, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a politics poster.
Then they came for the annoying fucks, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not an annoying fuck.
-snip-
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
…
Who wants to tell him?
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
As head of politics (hitler) I declare your polposting weak and libsan7890 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:28 pmI’m all three of these things wat doRohen_Tahir wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:08 am First they came for the spammers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a spammer.
Then they came for the politics posters, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a politics poster.
Then they came for the annoying fucks, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not an annoying fuck.
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Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
I’m just there for ThreesStickymayhem wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:55 pm -snip-
As head of politics (hitler) I declare your polposting weak and lib
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Find Jesus.san7890 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 2:28 pmI’m all three of these things wat doRohen_Tahir wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:08 am First they came for the spammers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a spammer.
Then they came for the politics posters, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a politics poster.
Then they came for the annoying fucks, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not an annoying fuck.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
Ignoring the fact nobody can uphold a complaint against MSO, this falls outside of Headmin/Admin jurisdiction anyway because we aren't allowed to jannie the coding channels except for Discord ToS violations.
Whether what MSO did falls in line with what the maintainers expect within the coding channels is something that the maintainer team/headcoders have to consider and as a result what oranges posted is somewhat relevant to the complaint.
As a maintainer, this isn't the first time I've seen MSO wield timeouts in the coding channels in utterly stupid ways. Recall the last time MSO used his powers to win an argument.
It ultimately ended in MSO banning Rohesie from the Discord for the crime of leaving the Discord when Roh was unable to understand MSO and didn't want to deal with the conflict he brought. Rohesie left the maintainer team as a result of this, which is a very good example of how destructive this behavioural trend MSO has can be.
One of the reasons I stopped engaging so much with the codebase is because it brought me directly into MSO's path on more than one occasion. The less I code, the less likely I am to have to deal with MSO. Sometimes he just sucks at communicating then blames you for not understanding.
Ultimately I disagree with using timeout powers in this way. If you feel the need to start muting community members because you've got a tree up your ass about something, then just walk away instead. If walking away isn't an option, then consider why you're dying on a yet another molehill and proclaiming it your grand mountain. Chances are you're being unreasonable and putting others on the defensive, where discussions are antagonistic instead of productive.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:53 pmthat was the joke dumpelstiltskin
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
This is why I always put Goof on the bottom of the headmin vote.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
Coders and maintainers ignoring the well-being of the community on a mere whim, colour me surprised.
The people defending this are either too stupid to understand ethics or precedent setting behaviour or have some ulterior motive like fucking over goof (which is based.)
The people defending this are either too stupid to understand ethics or precedent setting behaviour or have some ulterior motive like fucking over goof (which is based.)
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
MSO is the host so he is allowed to be a dickhead to some extent he runs the place, hosts can infact be like that, its good to see that our host doesn't abuse his power to a (large) extent or treat people like shit
what does goofball expect from this? nobody can surpass the one at the top in the rankings.
for real though if you ever get on too far on the bad side of the owner in literally any establishment, then it probably won't end too well for you.
what does goofball expect from this? nobody can surpass the one at the top in the rankings.
for real though if you ever get on too far on the bad side of the owner in literally any establishment, then it probably won't end too well for you.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Amongus: Host Edition
"i want my game more like irl"
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joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑ I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
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