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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
The orange bottle was right, I’m bored with this trend.
This is, for the 5th time, a skill issue.
This is, for the 5th time, a skill issue.
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
Can't a complaint be automatically rejected on the basis that the complainant hasn't yet succesfully appealed their ban?
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
Hahahaha. viewtopic.php?f=7&t=32959
Killing CMO the next round because no admins banned him. What an idiot vigilante.
Killing CMO the next round because no admins banned him. What an idiot vigilante.
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
Turbonerd wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:53 pm Hahahaha. viewtopic.php?f=7&t=32959
Killing CMO the next round because no admins banned him. What an idiot vigilante.
or you know, coincedence that a self antag , self antag'd again in the very next round
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
That's standard practice, but in this case the complaint is technically about the fact his old ahelp related to the previous round went unhandled while I was busy investigating the incident that had just happened and so isn't covered by that standard.
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
guy mad that nobody was around to respond to his ahelp when he ahelped it 40 minutes after it happened. guy epically salty that he got banned for taking matters into his own hands the next round.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
no no. He died during that round he should have been banned in, to a robust HoP.Turbonerd wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:53 pm Hahahaha. viewtopic.php?f=7&t=32959
Killing CMO the next round because no admins banned him. What an idiot vigilante.
So my question is what do you do as captain to someone that baton you and shoves twice, and then continues to try to baton afterwards. Unfortunately, my answer for him was sabre after I did tell him to knock it off.
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Again, Observing that round. So why would I be salty about a round, I was personally in ish. You could say I am disappointed that he got away with a serious rule break as you know and I know, logs of a past round isn't immediately released once it is over. So reading up that he did infact request someone to hypnoflash him to become an antag. That action is real shitty, equal to a borg asking for an emag.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:35 pmguy mad that nobody was around to respond to his ahelp when he ahelped it 40 minutes after it happened. guy epically salty that he got banned for taking matters into his own hands the next round.
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
Ok and in which part of your reasoning is the admin at fault for any of this, so much to deserve a personal complaint? Of course, other than "you didn't want to ban whoever I think you should've banned", which is blatant ban request material, and not admin complaint material.iansdoor wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:41 pmAgain, Observing that round. So why would I be salty about a round, I was personally in ish. You could say I am disappointed that he got away with a serious rule break as you know and I know, logs of a past round isn't immediately released once it is over. So reading up that he did infact request someone to hypnoflash him to become an antag. That action is real shitty, equal to a borg asking for an emag.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:35 pmguy mad that nobody was around to respond to his ahelp when he ahelped it 40 minutes after it happened. guy epically salty that he got banned for taking matters into his own hands the next round.
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
You were not acting as security, so this is normal escalation. You, as the person who started the conflict by randomly stealing the CMO's crap, were not entitled to pull out your captain's saber and gut the guy, because he hadn't started using lethals on you yet. You WERE entitled to use your own telebaton and restrain him, and do almost anything other than brutally murder him for trying to reclaim his belongings.Escalation Policy wrote:
As a non-antagonist you may begin conflict with another player with valid reason (refusal of critical services, belligerent attitude, etc) OR if it does not excessively interfere with their ability to do their job. Whomever you engage is entitled to respond to your actions. If the conflict leads to violence and you had a poor reason for causing conflict in the first place, you may face administrative action.
If you are wronged, you are expected to handle the conflict non-lethally whenever possible, escalating in severity as the conflict continues. As the defending party the rate of escalation increases with you, up to and including violence, while the instigator is always able to respond in kind.
tl;dr you deserved it.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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To be real honest, The ahelp that they choose to pick and choose.Agux909 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:03 pmOk and in which part of your reasoning is the admin at fault for any of this, so much to deserve a personal complaint? Of course, other than "you didn't want to ban whoever I think you should've banned", which is blatant ban request material, and not admin complaint material.iansdoor wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:41 pmAgain, Observing that round. So why would I be salty about a round, I was personally in ish. You could say I am disappointed that he got away with a serious rule break as you know and I know, logs of a past round isn't immediately released once it is over. So reading up that he did infact request someone to hypnoflash him to become an antag. That action is real shitty, equal to a borg asking for an emag.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:35 pmguy mad that nobody was around to respond to his ahelp when he ahelped it 40 minutes after it happened. guy epically salty that he got banned for taking matters into his own hands the next round.
In my ban appeal, you can read I asked three separate times about the CMO. Genuine interest, however, the hang-up was on stolen crew pin pointer. "apparently, real expensive." Seriously, their words "It is much harder to investigate issues after the server has already reastarted, and admins are under no obligation to do so." And the instant boot off the server is my complaint as well.
I was very willing to wait and talk to them, spending 40 minutes of my time on them alone. I requested to go to centcom prison via ahelp and also centcom message, so we could talk and I would have out of the round. you saw yourself, 30 seconds for them to fat finger over the ban 1 month on a roles, (I don't play command, you can check scrubby if you are interested.) and the one day ban to screwed me out of my own ahelp about the same bad faith CMO player.
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Totally, get it. weird situation, lets be real clear. Baton is not something to take lightly as a joke. He didn't use words, he used his baton on me first, thinking that was a great idea. Everyone knows that the combo is true, if you baton and push twice, that person isn't coming up. However, if you have scan to set to arrest and a beepsky on stand-by, you aren't free stam-crit meat on the ground. I am pretty sure he panic'ed hard when I didn't really let go of his self-antag. if you want to be RP about it, get the lawyer or security to get it back. CMO choose action over words with his decision to stam-crit me.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:07 pmYou were not acting as security, so this is normal escalation. You, as the person who started the conflict by randomly stealing the CMO's crap, were not entitled to pull out your captain's saber and gut the guy, because he hadn't started using lethals on you yet. You WERE entitled to use your own telebaton and restrain him, and do almost anything other than brutally murder him for trying to reclaim his belongings.Escalation Policy wrote:
As a non-antagonist you may begin conflict with another player with valid reason (refusal of critical services, belligerent attitude, etc) OR if it does not excessively interfere with their ability to do their job. Whomever you engage is entitled to respond to your actions. If the conflict leads to violence and you had a poor reason for causing conflict in the first place, you may face administrative action.
If you are wronged, you are expected to handle the conflict non-lethally whenever possible, escalating in severity as the conflict continues. As the defending party the rate of escalation increases with you, up to and including violence, while the instigator is always able to respond in kind.
tl;dr you deserved it.
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
Put it in your signature
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In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
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I think it'll be another thread in which no one gives a shit and nothing is done
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
you don't have to prove the other guy is a shitter, you can still just apologize for going too far. appeal the note if you wish about improper escalation but i dont see what it has to do with the previous rounds actionsiansdoor wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:33 pmTotally, get it. weird situation, lets be real clear. Baton is not something to take lightly as a joke. He didn't use words, he used his baton on me first, thinking that was a great idea. Everyone knows that the combo is true, if you baton and push twice, that person isn't coming up. However, if you have scan to set to arrest and a beepsky on stand-by, you aren't free stam-crit meat on the ground. I am pretty sure he panic'ed hard when I didn't really let go of his self-antag. if you want to be RP about it, get the lawyer or security to get it back. CMO choose action over words with his decision to stam-crit me.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:07 pmYou were not acting as security, so this is normal escalation. You, as the person who started the conflict by randomly stealing the CMO's crap, were not entitled to pull out your captain's saber and gut the guy, because he hadn't started using lethals on you yet. You WERE entitled to use your own telebaton and restrain him, and do almost anything other than brutally murder him for trying to reclaim his belongings.Escalation Policy wrote:
As a non-antagonist you may begin conflict with another player with valid reason (refusal of critical services, belligerent attitude, etc) OR if it does not excessively interfere with their ability to do their job. Whomever you engage is entitled to respond to your actions. If the conflict leads to violence and you had a poor reason for causing conflict in the first place, you may face administrative action.
If you are wronged, you are expected to handle the conflict non-lethally whenever possible, escalating in severity as the conflict continues. As the defending party the rate of escalation increases with you, up to and including violence, while the instigator is always able to respond in kind.
tl;dr you deserved it.
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
Gotcha, so pretty much what I thought. The situation didn't go as you wanted with your ahelp after the very round which contained the events had already passed, so you blame it on admin negligence/abuse (?)iansdoor wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:28 pmTo be real honest, The ahelp that they choose to pick and choose.Agux909 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:03 pmOk and in which part of your reasoning is the admin at fault for any of this, so much to deserve a personal complaint? Of course, other than "you didn't want to ban whoever I think you should've banned", which is blatant ban request material, and not admin complaint material.iansdoor wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:41 pmAgain, Observing that round. So why would I be salty about a round, I was personally in ish. You could say I am disappointed that he got away with a serious rule break as you know and I know, logs of a past round isn't immediately released once it is over. So reading up that he did infact request someone to hypnoflash him to become an antag. That action is real shitty, equal to a borg asking for an emag.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:35 pmguy mad that nobody was around to respond to his ahelp when he ahelped it 40 minutes after it happened. guy epically salty that he got banned for taking matters into his own hands the next round.
In my ban appeal, you can read I asked three separate times about the CMO. Genuine interest, however, the hang-up was on stolen crew pin pointer. "apparently, real expensive." Seriously, their words "It is much harder to investigate issues after the server has already reastarted, and admins are under no obligation to do so." And the instant boot off the server is my complaint as well.
I was very willing to wait and talk to them, spending 40 minutes of my time on them alone. I requested to go to centcom prison via ahelp and also centcom message, so we could talk and I would have out of the round. you saw yourself, 30 seconds for them to fat finger over the ban 1 month on a roles, (I don't play command, you can check scrubby if you are interested.) and the one day ban to screwed me out of my own ahelp about the same bad faith CMO player.
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So again, in my ahelp. I ask three times about the investigation as the pervious round logs were not posted yet.
What bothers me the most is the fat fingered day ban without speaking anymore, 30 seconds of any real thought and consideration, after I was very patient to spend my time to answer their questions.
I wish there was the same courtesy, but this should have been a day ban there and appeal on forums. So I didn't have to wait 40 minutes out of my day for a slam in my face.
What bothers me the most is the fat fingered day ban without speaking anymore, 30 seconds of any real thought and consideration, after I was very patient to spend my time to answer their questions.
I wish there was the same courtesy, but this should have been a day ban there and appeal on forums. So I didn't have to wait 40 minutes out of my day for a slam in my face.
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Nah that's Crag's thing. I just put quotes that make me chuckle.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:45 pmPut it in your signature
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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We need to reaffirm the Kor doctrine that everything that happened in previous rounds can't be complained about (unless it was like OOC shit or server crashing or something)
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
Then just appeal it and period. You've shot yourself in the foot by forwarding this into an admin complaint when your actual gripe is that the admin, you say, wrongly banned you. You got nothing tangible to complain about so you're just doing yourself a disservice.iansdoor wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:41 pm So again, in my ahelp. I ask three times about the investigation as the pervious round logs were not posted yet.
What bothers me the most is the fat fingered day ban without speaking anymore, 30 seconds of any real thought and consideration, after I was very patient to spend my time to answer their questions.
I wish there was the same courtesy, but this should have been a day ban there and appeal on forums. So I didn't have to wait 40 minutes out of my day for a slam in my face.
Also it's a game, if you are so hurt and displeased for spending 40 minutes and then not having an admin treat you like a self-entitled king and doing your will, these problems are just in your head. Go feel the sun on your skin a bit.
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
Please don’t put me in your signaturedatorangebottle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:44 pmNah that's Crag's thing. I just put quotes that make me chuckle.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:45 pmPut it in your signature
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thanks for the additiondatorangebottle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:44 pmNah that's Crag's thing. I just put quotes that make me chuckle.Timonk wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:45 pmPut it in your signature
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Re: Another ban request in admin complaints.
He actually put me in the screenshot, the mad lad.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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