Seth Deces loses twice (i think?) to reider and then gets swiftly banned

[TheLoLSwat]

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[Hoolny]

Everytime I’m a heretic and sec finds even a sign of me being a heretic through rift prints they instantly search me if they see anything heretic like they instantly execute me on the spot

Here is me giving a heretic a minor debuff while a chef tries to help an antag shoved me around stops me from doing arrest steals a disabler and break into sec meanwhile when I’m trying to do the one surgery the heretic rages and ghosts for losing some ears

[toemas]

I posted them because his interaction with the cook seemed exceedingly shitsec to me

Actually it was based and redpilled

[toemas]

He claims they shoved him around while the mime was in handcuffs but I don't see it in the logs.

Im a witness and i can confirm that this was certainly true. They had like a five minute long goose chase/scuffle where the chef saved the mime several times

[toemas]

Doesnt really matter though because of the ghost role grudging; Seth has literally done exactly this to me but he got away with it because the admin who handled my ahelp wasnt very smart
next ban reider and lisa

[Hoolny]

If I did? you should bring it up here I don’t remember doing this before

[Vekter]

To all the people bringing up his past: it is completely irrelevant.
If he did things he shouldn't have done, and was punished for doing them, then that is resolved, and he shouldn't incur double jeopardy.

1) Double jeopardy only applies to the same instance of committing a crime and not future ones. You can't be punished twice for murdering someone, but you can be punished for murdering someone again.
2) You're completely irrelevant.

[Epoc]

Seth won

[EmpressMaia]

reider mesa sucks

[Qbmax32]

its not "validhunting" or "kill-hungry" to kill friendly/low-effort antags

always kill friendly wizards

[BeeSting12]

its not "validhunting" or "kill-hungry" to kill friendly/low-effort antags

always kill friendly wizards

Suicide wizard is the only good nonantagonistic wizard gimmick

[Omega_DarkPotato]

"oh yeah guys i'll respond to hoolny in a bit don't worry"



i write too goddamn much

[TheLoLSwat]

The mime was drawing heretic circles in front of any one so as usual I arrested them and I was gona do a pacification surgery to keep them under control then the chef constantly tried to stop me arrested which I correctly stunned them for it went into the execute chamber to grab tools which then the chef broke into security stole a disablers and tried to disable me then I stunned them while I was talking to them the mime heretic escaped or something I though saw them back in perma where they opened rifts then they started talking as a mime they said they were gona ghost just because I ringed their ears


THE CHEF BROKE INTO SEC AND STOLE A DISABLER

just toss them both in perma isolation wearing muzzles and the 99.999% slowdown shoes and let them stir for 5 minutes( ) without letting them know how long they'll sit for being heretics and heretic supporters (since they both are in violation of code 312 ( ). AI shouldnt have a problem with this you can rp your way out of it if they do pretty easily since they both will have muzzles and the mime is actually a heretic. Something else will take the attention off of you guys for a bit (which could also be you!) and then you can come into perma, beat the mime to death and then blame the chef for it.

But ONLY do things like this if you intend to be shitsec and rile up the non sec crewmembers, which you should never do as an officer of nanotrasen.

[Archie700]

"oh yeah guys i'll respond to hoolny in a bit don't worry"



i write too goddamn much

The only issue I have with the note is that it say "complete ignorance of the first law of asimov".
There's no action I see here that resulted in Seth directly harming Reider as a borg, though it could just be because the actions Seth took may have caused Reider to come to harm.
That's it. I don't have any other issues with the note or ban.

[Kendrickorium]

So I was doing a bunch of log diving on this one, and ran into something interesting from the start of the round. A heretic mime drew a rune in the kitchen and Seth saw it. What proceeded was a flashbanging of the entire kitchen and seth throwing the mime around at people hitting the cook and others.

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[2023-02-08 02:05:26.983] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) flashed(AOE) PengisBungholius/(Wilson Williams) with the flash (NEWHP: 100) (Central Primary Hallway (127,131,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:26.983] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) flashed(AOE) SteroidSandwich/(Hore-Hey Guapo) with the flash (NEWHP: 100) (Central Primary Hallway (127,131,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:26.984] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) flashed(AOE) Couriadore/(Connor Meepsky) with the flash (NEWHP: 91.9) (Central Primary Hallway (127,131,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:31.805] ATTACK: Couriadore/(Connor Meepsky) shot Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 90) (Bar Lounge (135,134,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:32.174] ATTACK: Couriadore/(Connor Meepsky) shot Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 90) (Bar Lounge (135,134,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:32.292] EMOTE: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) waves. (Bar Lounge (138,132,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:32.830] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grabbed Couriadore/(Connor Meepsky) passive grab (NEWHP: 91.9) (Bar Lounge (134,134,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:32.831] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grabbed Couriadore/(Connor Meepsky) aggressively (NEWHP: 91.9) (Bar Lounge (134,134,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:32.965] ATTACK: Couriadore/(Connor Meepsky) shot Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 90) (Bar Lounge (135,134,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:33.010] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) broke grab Couriadore/(Connor Meepsky) (NEWHP: 91.9) (Bar Lounge (134,134,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:36.761] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) stun attacked Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 90) (Theater (147,126,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:38.047] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 90) (Theater (148,124,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:38.916] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) passive grab (NEWHP: 90) (Theater (147,124,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:40.100] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 90) (Theater (149,124,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:41.670] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) thrown Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) grab from tile in Theater (150,122,2) towards tile at Kitchen (145,123,2) (NEWHP: 90) (Theater (150,122,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:41.671] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) has thrown Invisible Wawa (Theater (150,122,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:41.675] ATTACK: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) crashed into Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 92.5) (Theater (150,123,2))

The cook tried to play it off as a fake rune and repeatedly tried to tell seth the mime had no hurt anyone. Seth continued tossing the mime around and eventually got him handcuffed. The cook taunted him for arresting a non harmful artist to which seth then stunned and kicked the cook.

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[2023-02-08 02:05:43.080] EMOTE: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) is a really good artist (Theater (150,123,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:43.203] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) (NEWHP: 80) (Theater (149,124,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:44.013] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) stun attacked Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 80) (Theater (149,123,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:45.013] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) passive grab (NEWHP: 80) (Theater (149,123,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:47.378] EMOTE: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) sobs (Theater (147,125,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:48.528] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) stun attacked Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 80) (Theater (146,131,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:48.678] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grabbed Hoolny/(Seth Deces) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Theater (146,130,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:51.220] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grabbed Hoolny/(Seth Deces) passive grab (NEWHP: 100) (Bar Lounge (142,132,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:51.222] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grabbed Hoolny/(Seth Deces) aggressively (NEWHP: 100) (Bar Lounge (142,132,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:51.298] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) broke grab Hoolny/(Seth Deces) (NEWHP: 100) (Bar Lounge (142,132,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:52.379] EMOTE: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) wants to draw (Bar Lounge (142,132,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:53.035] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grabbed Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) passive grab (NEWHP: 80) (Bar Lounge (141,131,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:53.036] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grabbed Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) aggressively (NEWHP: 80) (Bar Lounge (141,131,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:55.117] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) thrown Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) grab from tile in Bar Lounge (142,129,2) towards tile at Kitchen (141,125,2) (NEWHP: 80) (Bar Lounge (142,129,2))
[2023-02-08 02:05:55.118] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) has thrown Invisible Wawa (Bar Lounge (142,129,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:00.429] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired at Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with the disabler beam from Bar Lounge (NEWHP: 80) (Bar Lounge (140,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:00.787] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Bar Lounge (Bar Lounge (140,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:00.991] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shot Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 80) (Bar Lounge (140,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:01.237] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Bar Lounge (Bar Lounge (140,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:01.441] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shot Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 92.5) (Bar Lounge (140,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:01.658] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired at Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the disabler beam from Bar Lounge (NEWHP: 92.5) (Bar Lounge (140,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:01.792] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shot Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 92.5) (Bar Lounge (140,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:01.907] ATTACK: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) cast the spell Invisible Wall. (Kitchen (141,123,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:02.431] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired at Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the disabler beam from Bar Lounge (NEWHP: 92.5) (Bar Lounge (140,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:02.556] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shot Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 92.5) (Bar Lounge (140,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:02.838] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired at Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the disabler beam from Bar Lounge (NEWHP: 92.5) (Bar Lounge (139,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:02.842] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shot Couriadore/(Connor Meepsky) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 91.9) (Bar Lounge (139,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:04.368] EMOTE: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) claps. (Kitchen (140,125,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:06.552] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) disarmed (CQC) Mikeike545/(Mauricio Steele) (NEWHP: 82.1) (Kitchen (138,125,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:06.556] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) shoved Mikeike545/(Mauricio Steele) into Seth Deces (NEWHP: 82.1) (Kitchen (138,125,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:07.655] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Mikeike545/(Mauricio Steele) into Samantha Cornelius (NEWHP: 82.1) (Bar Lounge (138,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:07.656] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) disarmed (CQC) Mikeike545/(Mauricio Steele) (NEWHP: 82.1) (Kitchen (138,125,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:08.477] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Mikeike545/(Mauricio Steele) into Samantha Cornelius (NEWHP: 77.1) (Bar Lounge (138,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:09.421] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Mikeike545/(Mauricio Steele) (NEWHP: 77.1) (Bar Lounge (138,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:10.155] ATTACK: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) cast the spell Mansus Grasp. (Kitchen (139,122,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:11.503] EMOTE: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) points at the floor (Kitchen (137,121,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:12.435] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "AI OPEN KTICHEN" (Bar Lounge (138,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:17.400] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "AI KTICHGE OPENJ" (Bar Lounge (138,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:18.923] ATTACK: Mikeike545/(Mauricio Steele) attacked Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with pocket crowbar (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 72) (Service Hallway (138,118,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:19.401] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "AI KITCHEN" (Bar Lounge (138,127,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:19.730] ATTACK: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) attacked Mikeike545/(Mauricio Steele) with Mansus Grasp (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 77.1) (Service Hallway (139,118,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:19.733] ATTACK: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) cast the touch spell Mansus Grasp on Mikeike545/(Mauricio Steele) with Mansus Grasp (NEWHP: 67.1) (Service Hallway (139,118,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:19.909] ATTACK: Mikeike545/(Mauricio Steele) shaken Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) (NEWHP: 72) (Service Hallway (138,118,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:21.758] EMOTE: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) claps. (Kitchen (138,121,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:30.294] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "LEAVE THE MIME ALONE!" (Kitchen (138,121,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:32.617] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "YOU RETARDS" (Kitchen (138,121,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:33.467] ATTACK: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) cast the spell Mansus Grasp. (Theater (149,123,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:36.009] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "HE IS PEACFULL!" (Kitchen (138,121,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:41.954] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "MUTES CANT EVEN CAST MANUS SHIT" (Kitchen (138,121,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:46.053] EMOTE: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) claps. (Kitchen Cold Room (148,120,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:48.731] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) stun attacked Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (146,130,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:49.817] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (147,130,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:50.235] EMOTE: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) sobs (Theater (145,128,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:50.763] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) kicks Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (146,128,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:50.764] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (146,128,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:51.722] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (145,128,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:52.930] GAME: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) reset a fire alarm. (Kitchen (137,123,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:52.931] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attempted to handcuff Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (145,129,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:53.505] GAME: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) reset a fire alarm. (Kitchen (137,123,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:53.772] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) passive grab (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (145,129,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:54.573] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) passive grab (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (145,129,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:55.353] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attempted to handcuff Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (145,129,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:55.354] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) failed to handcuff Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (145,129,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:55.526] EMOTE: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) wants to draw art (Theater (144,128,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:55.907] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) handcuffed Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (145,129,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:56.157] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (145,129,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:57.154] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (145,129,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:59.334] EMOTE: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) claps. (Greater Starboard Maintenance (152,124,2))
[2023-02-08 02:06:59.466] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shaken Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (148,131,2))
[2023-02-08 02:07:03.438] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked [disposal pipe] with the stun baton (Greater Starboard Maintenance (150,131,2))
[2023-02-08 02:07:04.409] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) stun attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 92.5) (Greater Starboard Maintenance (150,130,2))
[2023-02-08 02:07:07.244] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) kicks Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 92.5) (Theater (147,131,2))
[2023-02-08 02:07:07.244] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 92.5) (Theater (147,131,2))
[2023-02-08 02:07:08.473] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) stun attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 92.5) (Theater (145,130,2))

The cook followed him to the execution chamber where seth proceeded to freak out on the ai for not letting him in the door to the execution chamber while dragging a human. The mime then broke his vow of silence and begged the ai to not let seth execute him. Cook then berated the mime for speaking and asked the AI to help them save the mime from execution. Seth began pepperspraying the cook and chain stunning them on a table taking them from 92 to 22 hp. It should be noted that as far as I can tell, the mime escaped from seth not because of the cook, but because they shoved the mime while dragging it, then the ai helped it flee.

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[2023-02-08 02:07:10.343] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) passive grab (NEWHP: 72) (Theater (147,131,2))
[2023-02-08 02:07:10.983] EMOTE: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) sobs (Theater (147,131,2))
[2023-02-08 02:07:30.068] EMOTE: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) wants to draw art (Brig (97,176,2))
[2023-02-08 02:07:41.894] EMOTE: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) raises an eyebrow (Transfer Centre (97,190,2))
[2023-02-08 02:07:43.570] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "ai open" (Transfer Centre (96,190,2))
[2023-02-08 02:07:47.618] ATTACK: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) cast the spell Speech. (Transfer Centre (97,190,2))
[2023-02-08 02:07:55.179] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "AI OPEN" (Transfer Centre (96,190,2))
[2023-02-08 02:07:58.537] EMOTE: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) points at Prisoner Education Chamber (Transfer Centre (96,190,2))
[2023-02-08 02:07:58.709] EMOTE: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) points at Prisoner Education Chamber (Transfer Centre (96,190,2))
[2023-02-08 02:07:59.841] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "Shitsec Seth Feces has arrested the mime for being good at art" (Fore Primary Hallway (107,157,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:02.714] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "ai stop ignoring me" (Transfer Centre (96,190,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:07.343] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "opent h edoor" (Transfer Centre (96,190,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:11.135] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "I never want to hear shit from seth about morality ever again" (Fore Primary Hallway (107,157,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:13.076] SAY: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) "AI I hate to do this but seth deces is gonna kill me" (Transfer Centre (99,193,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:13.136] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "':s execution roojm" (Transfer Centre (99,189,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:16.587] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "its on cams" (Transfer Centre (99,189,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:16.798] SAY: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) "for drawing" (Transfer Centre (99,193,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:20.596] SAY: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) "good art" (Transfer Centre (99,193,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:24.619] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 72) (Transfer Centre (99,192,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:25.507] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "Mime spoke!!!" (Bar Lounge (131,132,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:26.552] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "FUCK" (Bar Lounge (131,132,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:30.415] SAY: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) "sec escpae pod" (Transfer Centre (99,193,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:32.026] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "MIME WHY DID YOU SPEAK" (Bar Lounge (132,133,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:36.751] SAY: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) "I like art" (Transfer Centre (99,193,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:42.915] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "AI DOOR" (Fore Primary Hallway (111,160,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:44.894] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "prisoner education room" (Transfer Centre (97,191,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:45.556] SAY: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) "and seth is a troglidite" (Transfer Centre (99,193,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:45.619] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "LET US SAVE MIME" (Fore Primary Hallway (111,160,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:46.730] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "it ahs camms" (Transfer Centre (97,191,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:51.597] ATTACK: Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) threw and hit Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the �Nanotrasen-brand beach ball (NEWHP: 92.5) (Fore Primary Hallway (111,159,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:52.526] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 72) (Transfer Centre (99,192,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:55.682] ATTACK: Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) threw and hit Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the �Nanotrasen-brand beach ball (NEWHP: 92.5) (Fore Primary Hallway (110,160,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:57.280] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) was AOE flashed by an automated portable flasher (Brig (110,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:08:58.736] ATTACK: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) cast the spell Mansus Grasp. (Transfer Centre (99,193,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:02.668] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "walk" (Brig (110,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:04.026] ATTACK: PengisBungholius/(Wilson Williams) shaken Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 92.5) (Brig (110,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:11.808] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired a puff of reagents from [floor] with the pepperspray with a range of [3], containing /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (1.7u, 1 purity). (Brig (98,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:11.808] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired a puff of reagents from a pepperspray with a range of [3] and containing /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (1.7u, 1 purity). (Brig (98,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:11.817] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed [floor] with the pepperspray which had /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (1.7u, 1 purity) (Brig (98,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:12.165] EMOTE: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) cries. (Brig (98,177,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:12.169] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the pepperspray which had /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (1.7u, 1 purity) (NEWHP: 92.5) (Brig (98,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:12.170] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed [floor] with the pepperspray which had /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (1.7u, 1 purity) (Brig (98,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:15.469] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 92.5) (Brig (98,176,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:16.689] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) kicks Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 92.5) (Brig (98,176,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:16.689] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 92.5) (Brig (98,176,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:17.492] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 92.5) (Brig (98,174,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:18.534] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) passive grab (NEWHP: 92.5) (Brig (98,174,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:19.450] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 92.5) (Brig (98,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:20.417] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) thrown Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grab from tile in Brig (98,172,2) towards tile at Armory (103,173,2) (NEWHP: 92.5) (Brig (98,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:20.418] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) has thrown Samantha Cornelius (Brig (98,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:21.353] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 85) (Brig (98,173,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:22.217] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) passive grab (NEWHP: 85) (Brig (98,174,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:23.654] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 85) (Brig (97,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:25.053] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) thrown Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grab from tile in Brig (94,175,2) towards tile at Brig (94,179,2) (NEWHP: 85) (Brig (94,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:25.054] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) has thrown Samantha Cornelius (Brig (94,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:26.490] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 75) (Brig (95,176,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:28.365] EMOTE: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) claps. (Brig (94,177,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:28.989] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired at Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the disabler beam from Brig (NEWHP: 75) (Brig (97,177,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:29.057] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shot Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 75) (Brig (97,177,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:29.551] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired at Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the disabler beam from Brig (NEWHP: 75) (Brig (97,177,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:30.474] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired at [stool] with the disabler beam from Brig (Brig (97,174,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:31.083] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired at [Visitation Shutters] with the disabler beam from Brig (Brig (97,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:31.085] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shot Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 75) (Brig (97,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:31.255] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) shoved Hoolny/(Seth Deces) with loosening their grip on the disabler (NEWHP: 100) (Brig (96,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:31.630] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired at [stool] with the disabler beam from Brig (Brig (98,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:31.632] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shot Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 75) (Brig (98,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:32.005] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired at [stool] with the disabler beam from Brig (Brig (98,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:32.007] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shot Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 75) (Brig (98,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:32.689] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with disabler (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 70) (Brig (98,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:33.516] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with disabler (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 65) (Brig (98,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:34.406] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired at Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the disabler beam from Brig (NEWHP: 65) (Brig (99,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:34.473] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shot Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 65) (Brig (99,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:35.184] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) passive grab (NEWHP: 65) (Brig (98,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:35.309] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "I never EVER" (Brig (97,175,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:37.181] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 65) (Brig (97,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:38.740] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) tabled Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) onto the table (NEWHP: 55) (Security Medical (95,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:39.489] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 55) (Security Medical (95,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:40.194] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "want to hear anything about morality" (Security Medical (96,173,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:40.339] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) passive grab (NEWHP: 55) (Security Medical (96,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:41.153] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 55) (Security Medical (96,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:42.124] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) has thrown Samantha Cornelius (Security Medical (96,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:42.124] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) thrown Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grab from tile in Security Medical (96,172,2) towards tile at Fore Port Maintenance (90,173,2) (NEWHP: 55) (Security Medical (96,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:43.329] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) passive grab (NEWHP: 55) (Security Medical (96,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:44.307] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 55) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:44.852] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "out of your mouth again" (Security Medical (95,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:45.426] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) has thrown Samantha Cornelius (Security Medical (94,171,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:45.426] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) thrown Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grab from tile in Security Medical (94,171,2) towards tile at Brig (94,175,2) (NEWHP: 55) (Security Medical (94,171,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:46.483] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 45) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:47.614] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) passive grab (NEWHP: 45) (Security Medical (95,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:47.696] ATTACK: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) climbed onto [laundry cart] (Prison Wing (87,201,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:48.615] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 45) (Security Medical (95,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:49.441] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) thrown Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grab from tile in Security Medical (95,172,2) towards tile at Fore Port Maintenance (91,173,2) (NEWHP: 45) (Security Medical (95,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:49.442] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) has thrown Samantha Cornelius (Security Medical (95,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:51.737] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "you are helping" (Security Medical (95,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:52.599] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "a heretic" (Security Medical (95,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:53.491] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "break out" (Security Medical (95,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:54.856] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with sterile mask (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 37.5) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:55.156] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "you are a filthy filthy shitsec" (Security Medical (93,173,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:55.989] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired a puff of reagents from [floor] with the space cleaner with a range of [1], containing /datum/reagent/space_cleaner (2u, 1 purity). (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:55.989] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired a puff of reagents from a space cleaner with a range of [1] and containing /datum/reagent/space_cleaner (2u, 1 purity). (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:56.006] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed [light fixture] with the space cleaner which had /datum/reagent/space_cleaner (2u, 1 purity) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:56.006] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed [station intercom] with the space cleaner which had /datum/reagent/space_cleaner (2u, 1 purity) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:56.006] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed [table] with the space cleaner which had /datum/reagent/space_cleaner (2u, 1 purity) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:56.007] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed [folder] with the space cleaner which had /datum/reagent/space_cleaner (2u, 1 purity) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:56.007] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed [folder] with the space cleaner which had /datum/reagent/space_cleaner (2u, 1 purity) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:56.007] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed [health analyzer] with the space cleaner which had /datum/reagent/space_cleaner (2u, 1 purity) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:56.040] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the space cleaner which had /datum/reagent/space_cleaner (2u, 1 purity) (NEWHP: 37.5) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:56.068] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed [floor] with the space cleaner which had /datum/reagent/space_cleaner (2u, 1 purity) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:56.793] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 37.5) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:57.675] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) kicks Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 37.5) (Security Medical (95,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:57.676] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 37.5) (Security Medical (95,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:58.717] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 37.5) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:09:59.663] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) passive grab (NEWHP: 37.5) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:00.458] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 37.5) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:02.410] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 37.5) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:03.343] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) kicked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 37.5) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:04.270] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) passive grab (NEWHP: 35.3) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:05.130] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 35.3) (Security Medical (96,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:05.958] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) thrown Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grab from tile in Security Medical (96,172,2) towards tile at Brig (95,175,2) (NEWHP: 35.3) (Security Medical (96,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:05.959] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) has thrown Samantha Cornelius (Security Medical (96,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:06.737] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 35.3) (Security Medical (96,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:07.370] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) shoved Hoolny/(Seth Deces) (NEWHP: 100) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:08.038] ATTACK: [table] shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with onto the table (table) (NEWHP: 35.3) (Security Medical (93,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:09.016] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) kicks Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 35.3) (Security Medical (95,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:09.017] ATTACK: [table] shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with onto the table (table) (NEWHP: 35.3) (Security Medical (93,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:09.901] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) passive grab (NEWHP: 35.3) (Security Medical (94,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:11.131] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 35.3) (Brig (97,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:12.086] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) thrown Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grab from tile in Brig (98,172,2) towards tile at Evidence Storage (101,174,2) (NEWHP: 35.3) (Brig (98,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:12.087] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) has thrown Samantha Cornelius (Brig (98,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:12.093] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) crashed into Hoolny/(Seth Deces) (NEWHP: 93.3) (Brig (97,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:15.526] ATTACK: [table] shoved Hoolny/(Seth Deces) with onto the table (table) (NEWHP: 93.3) (Brig (100,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:16.562] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) kicks Hoolny/(Seth Deces) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 93.3) (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:16.562] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) shoved Hoolny/(Seth Deces) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 93.3) (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:17.398] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grabbed Hoolny/(Seth Deces) passive grab (NEWHP: 93.3) (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:18.783] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grabbed Hoolny/(Seth Deces) passive grab (NEWHP: 93.3) (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:19.794] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grabbed Hoolny/(Seth Deces) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 93.3) (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:19.794] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) resisted grab Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 27.8) (Brig (100,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:20.607] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) shoved Hoolny/(Seth Deces) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 93.3) (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:21.487] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) kicks Hoolny/(Seth Deces) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 93.3) (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:21.488] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) shoved Hoolny/(Seth Deces) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 93.3) (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:23.859] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) shoved Hoolny/(Seth Deces) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 93.3) (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:24.620] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) resisted grab Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 27.8) (Brig (100,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:24.621] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) broke grab Hoolny/(Seth Deces) (NEWHP: 93.3) (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:24.704] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) shoved Hoolny/(Seth Deces) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 93.3) (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:25.155] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) was AOE flashed by an automated portable flasher (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:26.762] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) stun attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 27.8) (Brig (98,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:30.137] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired a puff of reagents from [floor] with the pepperspray with a range of [2], containing /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (2.5u, 1 purity). (Brig (98,174,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:30.137] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) fired a puff of reagents from a pepperspray with a range of [2] and containing /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (2.5u, 1 purity). (Brig (98,174,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:30.170] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed [�Brig fire alarm] with the pepperspray which had /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (2.5u, 1 purity) (Brig (98,174,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:30.171] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed [floor] with the pepperspray which had /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (2.5u, 1 purity) (Brig (98,174,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:30.474] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed [hand labeler] with the pepperspray which had /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (2.5u, 1 purity) (Brig (98,174,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:30.474] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed [mechanical toolbox] with the pepperspray which had /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (2.5u, 1 purity) (Brig (98,174,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:30.474] EMOTE: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) cries. (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:30.477] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the pepperspray which had /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (2.5u, 1 purity) (NEWHP: 27.8) (Brig (98,174,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:30.477] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) sprayed [floor] with the pepperspray which had /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (2.5u, 1 purity) (Brig (98,174,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:31.555] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) stun attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 27.8) (Brig (98,173,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:33.779] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "nice one retard!" (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:43.033] ATTACK: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) cast the spell Mansus Grasp. (Prison Wing (87,201,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:44.495] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) was AOE flashed by an automated portable flasher (Brig (99,173,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:47.350] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "indeed" (Brig (99,173,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:56.350] ATTACK: Investigate311/(Phillip Jeffries) shaken Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 27.8) (Brig (98,174,2))
[2023-02-08 02:10:57.573] ATTACK: Investigate311/(Phillip Jeffries) leg sweeped Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (98,174,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:00.298] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) fired a puff of reagents from [floor] with the pepperspray with a range of [1], containing /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (5u, 1 purity). (Brig (98,173,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:00.298] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) fired a puff of reagents from a pepperspray with a range of [1] and containing /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (5u, 1 purity). (Brig (98,173,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:00.318] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) sprayed [floor] with the pepperspray which had /datum/reagent/consumable/condensedcapsaicin (5u, 1 purity) (Brig (98,173,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:02.143] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) was AOE flashed by an automated portable flasher (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:06.673] ATTACK: [table] shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with onto the table (table) (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (100,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:07.585] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) passive grab (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (99,172,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:11.309] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (97,166,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:11.617] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "Nope" (Brig (97,165,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:12.114] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) thrown Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) grab from tile in Brig (97,166,2) towards tile at Brig (97,163,2) (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (97,166,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:12.115] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) has thrown Samantha Cornelius (Brig (97,166,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:12.147] EMOTE: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) claps. (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:12.957] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (97,165,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:13.755] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (97,165,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:14.723] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) kicks Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (97,166,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:14.723] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (97,166,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:16.237] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (97,165,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:16.516] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "i was blind" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:17.115] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (97,165,2))

The cook and seth get into an argument about why seth was trying to execute in the first place and seth gets mad and starts flash spamming the cook. Cook then gets stripped while not resisting and then Seth starts cutting their legs off with a circular saw putting them in crit.

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[2023-02-08 02:11:20.386] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "Samantha" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:22.789] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "dont be fucking cryijng" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:27.245] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "you stopped the arrest of a heretic" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:28.750] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "5 times" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:30.388] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "broke into sec" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:30.938] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "no one is crying retard" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:32.169] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "stole a disabler" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:35.361] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "assaulted me" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:36.451] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "you are beating me to death" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:37.655] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "and youa re like" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:39.518] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "talk about salty" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:39.892] EMOTE: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) claps. (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:41.562] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "i dont want to eahr shtisec from you" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:45.402] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "you are helping" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:48.067] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "you are shitsec" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:48.760] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "a corporation enemy" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:50.720] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "what was he doing" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:50.882] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "for no good reason" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:52.050] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "besides" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:52.395] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) was AOE flashed by an automated portable flasher (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:53.929] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "drawing" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:55.962] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "being a heretic" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:59.223] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "drawing a rune" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:11:59.559] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "all you proved" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:01.778] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "to sacrifice people" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:04.995] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "was you cannot discern good from bad" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:08.150] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "except for funny tools" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:09.098] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "heretics" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:09.411] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "that is" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:09.807] SAY: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) "ai" (Prison Wing (87,201,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:10.392] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "by nature" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:11.585] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "peak shitsec" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:12.052] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "are evil" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:15.749] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "their job" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:17.163] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "is to kill" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:20.992] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "and sacrifice people" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:22.898] SAY: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) "test" (Prison Wing (87,201,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:23.601] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "and your job is to enforce justice" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:26.130] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "there is no grey areas" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:28.266] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "but it dont see you doing that" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:28.738] EMOTE: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) claps. (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:31.765] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "no my job is to keep the station safe" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:35.534] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "i see you beating people" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:37.632] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "and the people safe" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:39.059] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "and shove stunning" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:39.875] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "your job" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:40.811] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "like a tider" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:42.155] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "to the cook shit" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:44.892] SAY: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) "AI if you can hear me im in perma do not tell sec they will kill me" (Prison Wing (87,201,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:46.436] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "why dont you ask to be an assitant pal?" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:12:49.510] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "with that behavior" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:03.526] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "control your behavior, learn right from wrong" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:05.359] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "be better" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:08.740] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "cause right now" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:11.601] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "you are shitsec" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:26.859] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "what say you" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:31.568] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "samantha" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:35.509] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "stop acting like a fucking dumbass" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:37.063] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "their a heretic" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:39.236] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "you know what they do" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:41.497] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "thats all you had to say?" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:41.824] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "you know how they are" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:44.433] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "Thats all?" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:44.987] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "yes" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:49.437] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "you are being stupid" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:53.236] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "also their a mime" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:55.784] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "and they started talking" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:58.208] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "their clearly" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:58.297] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "you cannot discern moral right from wrong" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:13:59.602] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "a shithead" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:01.729] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "all you see is funny hand" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:02.954] PRAY: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa): oh old art gods, they plan on killing me for the simple crime of drawing! how absurd is that, can ya send me a focus or the ingredeints to make it as sitting in a perma laundry cart is not how you draw art
[2023-02-08 02:14:04.873] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "no" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:06.957] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "I saw him" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:08.290] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "and you decided you want to kill someone" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:09.361] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "in front of everyone" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:11.902] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "draw fuckign runes" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:15.293] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "and he is gona go like" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:22.437] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) ""LOOK GUYS IM A FRIENDLY HERETIC TEHE"" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:22.902] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "ah yes the man drawing 30 runes" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:25.664] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "also" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:26.017] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "is gonna kill everyone" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:27.712] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "I was just goan do" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:29.175] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "the MUTE heretic!" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:31.886] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "pacifying surgery" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:33.233] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "on him" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:34.703] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "who cannot cast anythiugn besides hadn!!" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:36.187] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "I wasent even gona kill them" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:38.453] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "I was trying to do" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:41.514] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "pacification surgery" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:43.923] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "and your shit ass" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:46.034] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "had to get in teh way" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:47.572] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "sure sure" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:48.018] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "and they got away" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:49.747] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "thanks to you" (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:49.943] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "blame it on me" (Brig (96,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:51.946] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) stun attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:52.827] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (97,164,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:53.040] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "you wanted to kill them" (Brig (96,162,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:53.752] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shoved Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (97,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:56.042] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "ITS LTIEARY" (Brig (97,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:56.927] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "YORU FAULT" (Brig (97,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:58.127] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) stun attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (97,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:14:59.234] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) grabbed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) passive grab (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (97,163,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:03.902] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) flashed(targeted) Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the flash (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (108,168,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:06.200] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) flashed(targeted) Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the flash (NEWHP: 22.8) (Brig (114,166,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:07.925] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) flashed(targeted) Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the flash (NEWHP: 22.8) (Holding Cell (116,162,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:08.413] PRAY: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa): a pair of eyes and a sheet of glass, old ones
[2023-02-08 02:15:08.850] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "all you are doing is proving you are shitsec" (Holding Cell (116,162,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:10.041] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) flashed(targeted) Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with the flash (NEWHP: 22.8) (Holding Cell (115,161,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:11.022] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attempted to handcuff Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 22.8) (Holding Cell (115,161,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:14.079] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) handcuffed Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 22.8) (Holding Cell (115,161,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:14.382] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "FUCK OFF" (Holding Cell (115,161,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:17.695] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shaken Tatto_Moon/(Worships-The-Moon) (NEWHP: 100) (Brig (113,165,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:21.303] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shaken Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 22.8) (Fore Primary Hallway (111,160,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:21.312] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "you are literally sitting here talking how good you are" (Brig (112,161,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:22.221] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) shaken Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (NEWHP: 22.8) (Fore Primary Hallway (109,158,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:23.801] ATTACK: Scissorbird/(Invisible Wawa) cast the spell Speech. (Prison Wing (85,200,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:24.439] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "while abusing a prisoner" (Fore Primary Hallway (107,147,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:28.123] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "And being shitsec" (Central Primary Hallway (88,140,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:33.305] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "you helped" (Central Primary Hallway (88,116,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:34.349] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "a heretic" (Central Primary Hallway (88,116,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:37.446] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "get out of custody" (Central Primary Hallway (88,116,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:39.796] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "all cause i wanted you to not kill someone who has done nothing?" (Central Primary Hallway (99,115,2))
[2023-02-08 02:15:57.994] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "ah yes the saw" (Central Primary Hallway (103,114,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:00.160] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "peak shitsec" (Central Primary Hallway (116,114,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:02.819] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) is stripping Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) of the service radio headset. (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:06.719] SAY: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) "stop being an idiot" (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:06.897] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) has stripped Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) of the service radio headset. (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:09.656] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) suffered: Rough Abrasion to left leg | Damage: 15 (rolled 33/44.3127) | WB: 15 (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,112,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:09.659] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 11.5) (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:09.765] SAY: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) "really proving me rig-HRNK!" (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,112,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:10.598] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 0.3) (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:11.432] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -11) (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:12.441] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) suffered: Open Laceration to left leg | Damage: 15 (rolled 32/44.3127) | WB: 15 | BWB: 10 (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,112,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:12.449] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -18.5) (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:13.289] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -18.5) (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:14.157] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) suffered: Weeping Avulsion to left leg | Damage: 15 (rolled 44/44.3127) | WB: 15 | BWB: 10 (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,112,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:14.158] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -18.5) (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:14.979] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -29.7) (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:16.061] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -40.9) (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:16.888] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) suffered: Hairline Fracture to left leg | Damage: 9 (rolled 6/21.674) | WB: 15 | BWB: 10 (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,112,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:16.889] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -41) (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:17.802] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -41) (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:18.841] ATTACK: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) suffered: Dismemberment Wound to left leg (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,112,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:18.851] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) attacked Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) with circular saw (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -65.5) (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:22.168] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Seth Deces) is putting the service radio headset on Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,112,2))
[2023-02-08 02:16:22.331] EMOTE: Castone001/(Samantha Cornelius) gasps! (Lesser Starboard Maintenance (124,111,2))

okay but thats hilarious

[ekaterina]

To all the people bringing up his past: it is completely irrelevant.
If he did things he shouldn't have done, and was punished for doing them, then that is resolved, and he shouldn't incur double jeopardy.

1) Double jeopardy only applies to the same instance of committing a crime and not future ones. You can't be punished twice for murdering someone, but you can be punished for murdering someone again.
2) You're completely irrelevant.

1) Of course. However, if your second punishment is worse than it should be because of your earlier crime, then, in effect, you're being punished twice for your first crime.
2) Yet another admin unable to follow forum rules whining about Seth potentially not having followed in game rules. lmao

[Archie700]

Of course. However, if your second punishment is worse than it should be because of your earlier crime, then, in effect, you're being punished twice for your first crime.

The basis behind escalating bans is that the player has not learnt from their previous recent ban/note and should be punished more harshly because by that point he should know better.
Many permabans are because of bad recent note history.
It is not at all similar to double jeopardy.

[ekaterina]

Of course. However, if your second punishment is worse than it should be because of your earlier crime, then, in effect, you're being punished twice for your first crime.

The basis behind escalating bans is that the player has not learnt from their previous recent ban/note and should be punished more harshly because by that point he should know better.
Many permabans are because of bad recent note history.
It is not at all similar to double jeopardy.

I am familiar with the argument. I disagree with it.

Permanently banning someone for minor violations, even if they're repeated, is grossly excessive in my view.
To use Lisa's security player analogy, you wouldn't execute someone because they committed petty theft, even if they had done it many times before.
There has to be a cap to ban escalation, because it reaches a point where it's plainly unreasonable.

Even then, though, what you said would only be applicable to similar violations of the same rule, not to unrelated violations.
This seems to only be his second instance of using ghost roles to get some sort of revenge against the player that killed him (at least of the notes shared by the admin).
There are two other notes pertaining to ghost roles, but they were not about hunting players, one was about loot and the other was about getting emagged on purpose.

[Mice World]

Permanently banning someone for minor violations, even if they're repeated, is grossly excessive in my view.

What else can you do? If they're not improving there's no point temporarily banning them. Omega mentions they've had three chances with abusing meta-knowledge and they show no signs of improvement.

If you were an admin, what would you do? Note them again? Ban them for a week? A month? These have been tried, yet they still average one note every 1-2 months.

[ekaterina]

If you were an admin, what would you do? Note them again? Ban them for a week? A month? These have been tried, yet they still average one note every 1-2 months.

One note every 1-2 months. This is serious enough to justify a permanent ban to you?

What else can you do? If they're not improving there's no point temporarily banning them.

You're looking at this from a point of view of changing the player, which I do not think is what you should be doing. The purpose of a ban should not be to change a player (he is not a kid and you are not his parent, frankly you have no right), but to protect the community from a player's rule-breaking actions. If he changes of his own initiative, that's a good bonus, a win-win even, but it shouldn't be the goal.
The harm in permanently banning a player is much greater than the benefit to the community in having one less fuck-up a month, not to mention how the same protection would be achieved by a ghost role ban.

[Agux909]

"oh yeah guys i'll respond to hoolny in a bit don't worry"



i write too goddamn much

Damn Omega, yeah that was a big one. There's a lot of context we were (still are) missing and you did a really good job at explaining your reasoning and train of thought.

At least for me, just by seeing what was appealed here on the forums, it just didn't justify a perma, even if Seth isn't the most exemplary player. Damn I've hated things he does on some rounds we played together too.

But yeah after reading all the new context and points of view, I think you've done a good service both to Hoolny and the servers. Cheers, I hope he can improve and get back with an improved playstyle.

[Mice World]

One note every 1-2 months. This is serious enough to justify a permanent ban to you?

I never said this. What justifies a permanent ban is the lack of change. If a player gets a note every few months then they're obviously doing something wrong. But if they learn from their mistakes instead of repeating them, they shouldn't be banned.

You're looking at this from a point of view of changing the player, which I do not think is what you should be doing. You should be looking at what's best for the community.

Changing a problem player IS good for the community.

The harm in permanently banning a player is much greater than the benefit to the community in having one less fuck-up a month.

Disagree. It doesn't matter how good a player someone is, if they're willing to make the game worse for their own enjoyment, they're a net negative. Also this ban isn't "permanent". If Seth is willing to wait a year or actively show he is improving his play, he can appeal again.

If you were an admin, what would you do?

You never answered this.

[conrad]

To all the people bringing up his past: it is completely irrelevant.
If he did things he shouldn't have done, and was punished for doing them, then that is resolved, and he shouldn't incur double jeopardy.

1) Double jeopardy only applies to the same instance of committing a crime and not future ones. You can't be punished twice for murdering someone, but you can be punished for murdering someone again.
2) You're completely irrelevant.

1) Of course. However, if your second punishment is worse than it should be because of your earlier crime, then, in effect, you're being punished twice for your first crime.
2) Yet another admin unable to follow forum rules whining about Seth potentially not having followed in game rules. lmao

Imagine not understanding criminal record.

[ekaterina]

If you were an admin, what would you do?

You never answered this.

In this particular instance, I don't think Seth did anything really severe. He was an Asimov borg trying to prevent human harm.
If the concerns about him using metaknowledge of Reider's location were found to be true, I'd give him a note - otherwise, I'd do nothing at all.

You're looking at this from a point of view of changing the player, which I do not think is what you should be doing. You should be looking at what's best for the community.

Changing a problem player IS good for the community.

Doesn't change the fact that you don't have a right to tell someone else who to be.
You do, however, obviously have a right to protect yourself from someone else who chooses to harm you and your community.
The latter should be the basis for bans.

[Ryusenshu]

At MINIMUM this would be a perma ghost and silicon ban, just a note for something like this would be stupid

I think admin handled it well here

[ekaterina]

At MINIMUM this would be a perma ghost and silicon ban

While I might not agree, I understand where you're coming from.
A permanent server ban, however, is grossly excessive any way you word it.

[Misdoubtful]

Please don't get hung up on the word 'permanent' here.

The reality is that when bans like this happen its because intervention has been attempted multiple times for reoccurring issues or overall issues relating to the spirit of the game and improvements just aren't happening.

The appeal was handled in a respectful way that generated a complete understanding of expectations to return and options being provided on how to return and an agreement to pursue those options.

It serves as a 'shit or get off the pot' moment for when something seriously needs to change and efforts made to help people mesh aren't working. Its a last ditch effort to help someone be able to enjoy the game and be able to participate in it in a healthy way.

The ban is in no way permanent unless the person actively chooses to not make improvements to how they approach the game or attempt to be better.

Otherwise they can appeal in a years time with that time serving as mitigation of behavior alongside an acknowledgement of things, or they can make the active effort to showcase that they are going to do what it takes to mesh with the community expectations and be back in three months or less.

The only permanency here is for those that aren't willing to put in the effort. For those that really care, it equates to a very reasonable three month or less ban. For those that don't care to try, well they surely won't care about not being around in three months or a years time and the game environment will be in a healthier place without those behaviors existing.

[Omega_DarkPotato]

Honestly at the rate Hoolny plays he can churn 150 hours out in 1mo (despite my recommendations to take it a little slower)
the bit about "there's no time on a reappeal if you get a vouch" was so that I don't have to just take a written promise to get better - I'm giving Hoolny a chance to directly prove themselves with the incentive that if they do I don't really care about a duration-based "punishment".

Prove that you've learned from where you were messing up or that you've changed from breaking the rules that you've previously had an issue with, and the ban's done all that it needs to - no need to arbitrarily keep people out of the game beyond that.

[ekaterina]

no need to arbitrarily keep people out of the game beyond that

What do you hope to achieve that you wouldn't also achieve with a ghost role ban?

[Misdoubtful]

no need to arbitrarily keep people out of the game beyond that

What do you hope to achieve that you wouldn't also achieve with a ghost role ban?

Commitment. Someone can ignore a ghost role ban and continue to play without acknowledging their issues and making the effort to change.

[ekaterina]

no need to arbitrarily keep people out of the game beyond that

What do you hope to achieve that you wouldn't also achieve with a ghost role ban?

Commitment. Someone can ignore a ghost role ban and continue to play without acknowledging their issues and making the effort to change.

And why does this matter to the community? In both cases, the community is shielded from any bad acts on his part as a ghost role.

[Omega_DarkPotato]

And why does this matter to the community? In both cases, the community is shielded from any bad acts on his part as a ghost role.

because he (more occasionally) performed very similar bad acts as a non ghostrole.
Although yes, it is more occasional than just his ghostrole specific incidents, they were happening nonetheless in a pattern that was similar to the ghostrole incidents, so I swept them together into this overall ban. A ghostrole can self-antag just as well as a non-ghostrole can, and my goal is to curb it entirely.

As sort of an odd extra positive, pushing hoolny to prove themselves on another server also offers them the opportunity to at the same time get hours in ghostroles should he want to clear that aspect up as well when he comes back (which, again, I don't expect to be taking more than 2mo - he normally has a played rounds/day avg of ~6-10 here, and on some of the other servers out there with longer rounds he'd only need to be making 2-3 rounds a day to get back in ONE month)

[RedBaronFlyer]

its not "validhunting" or "kill-hungry" to kill friendly/low-effort antags

always kill friendly wizards

Preach. "Friendly" wizards, xenos, spiders, etc, always eventually turn manhunter. Either through constant harassment from some of the crew or, more likely, boredom.

[bastardblaster]

If you were an admin, what would you do? Note them again? Ban them for a week? A month? These have been tried, yet they still average one note every 1-2 months.

One note every 1-2 months. This is serious enough to justify a permanent ban to you?

the average person gets 0-1 notes per year

[Qbmax32]

In this particular instance, I don't think Seth did anything really severe. He was an Asimov borg trying to prevent human harm.
If the concerns about him using metaknowledge of Reider's location were found to be true, I'd give him a note - otherwise, I'd do nothing at all.

lol

[Armhulen]

In this particular instance, I don't think Seth did anything really severe. He was an Asimov borg trying to prevent human harm.
If the concerns about him using metaknowledge of Reider's location were found to be true, I'd give him a note - otherwise, I'd do nothing at all.

lol

ekat did a run to the poop store for their opinion and they didn't even tell me?! (i needed my takes on silicon balance)

[BONERMASTER]

Please don't get hung up on the word 'permanent' here.
[...]
The ban is in no way permanent unless the person actively chooses to not make improvements to how they approach the game or attempt to be better.

I'm not sure I quite follow with your reasoning here.
But I know someone else that would:

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With good regards
-BONERMASTER

[Misdoubtful]

Please don't get hung up on the word 'permanent' here.
[...]
The ban is in no way permanent unless the person actively chooses to not make improvements to how they approach the game or attempt to be better.

I'm not sure I quite follow with your reasoning here.
But I know someone else that would:

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With good regards
-BONERMASTER

I'm not really interested in diving into the semantics of why the phrase 'perma ban' sucks to use in these situations, but the purpose of the ban and its conditions are clear. If there was another way to name it, I'd be more than happy to but logistically that isn't possible. Its a placeholder for anything that doesn't have a defined expiration date. C'mon dude.

[BeeSting12]

Are we seriously comparing the permabanning of a player who has had consistent behavioral issues to 1984?

[iwishforducks]

i dont get all the hubbub about this ban, i enjoyed seth deces being around in his time but i also knew he was constantly working his way towards a perma

[conrad]

Are we seriously comparing the permabanning of a player who has had consistent behavioral issues to 1984?

The admin team is in eternal courtship with ideas bespoken of dictactorial intent.

[Cobby]

In this particular instance, I don't think Seth did anything really severe. He was an Asimov borg trying to prevent human harm.
If the concerns about him using metaknowledge of Reider's location were found to be true, I'd give him a note - otherwise, I'd do nothing at all.

lol

Ive always tended to sway away from bans but if they are being malicious punks then giving them a note is shameful on your, the admin's, end.

If you are going to tell me respawning in several times as different characters to kill someone who has killed you isnt poor taste even to someone who has like a very primitive understanding of RP games before then its very hard to assume youre coming in w good faith. Even darkrp has a similar rule.

[RedBaronFlyer]

Please don't get hung up on the word 'permanent' here.
[...]
The ban is in no way permanent unless the person actively chooses to not make improvements to how they approach the game or attempt to be better.

I'm not sure I quite follow with your reasoning here.
But I know someone else that would:

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With good regards
-BONERMASTER

[conrad]

funi

Have my babehs

[BONERMASTER]

At least I get to live in the golden 80s.
And you too, if you're

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not successfully appealing your definitely not permanent ban.

With dangerous regards
-BONERMASTER

[Epicgamer545]

guys look I compared the admin team to 1984 please laugh

[Qbmax32]

what a classic! never in my life have I heard a jest so heartfelt and original!

[RaveRadbury]

I can't believe BONERMASTER is getting dragged for 1984-posting in this thread.

[Timberpoes]

You have to save 1984 posts for only the most draconian of censorship-via-bans.

Otherwise they lose their dramatic impact.

This is definitely a Brave New World scenario though, not 1984. It's not control through pain, fear and oppression. It's control through love (of peanuts) and pleasure (of seeing people get dunked). Everyone is so placated.

[Kendrickorium]

[Kendrickorium]

[conrad]

I'm really partial of going Conquest capital with a Gryphon escort, and Hammerheads to fill.