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Muh realism codenut
Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm all you godamn do is whine and complain come up with ideas, stop bitching for christs sake.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
I play the old man Ricky Paxton, and sometimes the borg Z.E.E.P.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Muh realism codenut
this dude peanuted an ALREADY merged thing... SMH!!!
theres nothing to bicker over here, its already done!!!
theres nothing to bicker over here, its already done!!!
respect (let him do his thing)
- datorangebottle
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Re: Muh realism codenut
>scare off good faith mining players with overpowered enemies, annoying gear acquisition, and no ORM on lavaland
>make having good-faith miners more important
I don't know what to tell you.
>make having good-faith miners more important
I don't know what to tell you.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Muh realism codenut
>scare off good-faith science players with experisci, toilet scanning, complex gas shell experimentsdatorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:29 pm >scare off good faith mining players with overpowered enemies, annoying gear acquisition, and no ORM on lavaland
>make having good-faith miners more important
I don't know what to tell you.
>make having good-faith science players more important by locking more things behind RND
Spoiler:
Re: Muh realism codenut
Why do I have to scan 4 uranium walls????sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:32 pm>scare off good-faith science players with experisci, toilet scanning, complex gas shell experimentsdatorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:29 pm >scare off good faith mining players with overpowered enemies, annoying gear acquisition, and no ORM on lavaland
>make having good-faith miners more important
I don't know what to tell you.
>make having good-faith science players more important by locking more things behind RND
It literally kills my character.
In fact why do I have to scan more than one of everything.
What gameplay values comes from making 4 meat toilets?
- datorangebottle
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Re: Muh realism codenut
This comparison doesn't work because there were no good-faith science players.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:32 pm>scare off good-faith science players with experisci, toilet scanning, complex gas shell experimentsdatorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:29 pm >scare off good faith mining players with overpowered enemies, annoying gear acquisition, and no ORM on lavaland
>make having good-faith miners more important
I don't know what to tell you.
>make having good-faith science players more important by locking more things behind RND
Let me elaborate.
Science, for a long time, was a job about doing research to benefit the station as a whole. The majority of scientists(including myself sometimes, so I may be projecting a little) had a specific idea for what they wanted to do as a scientist and abandoned the console as soon as they had the thing because R&D is miserably boring. Playing a job just to get the cool stuff isn't playing it in good faith.
Mining is supposedly about supplying the station with ore. Players not playing mining in good faith are rushing megafauna instead to get the reliable cool stuff instead of actually mining, because fighting megafauna is fun, killing them gives you cool loot, and dying to them lets you sit around and wait for midround antag.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Muh realism codenut
Somehow "bluespace links" are more realistic than synthesizing metal. I honestly think bluespace links are dumb, you could have just made it so borgs go to the ore silo to pick up materials manually.
Removing bluespace links would solve the problem of antagonists being able to drain the entire ore silo from any random protolathe in a matter of seconds. It also would give cargo techs a job to do, they could go around restocking people's protolathes.
Removing bluespace links would solve the problem of antagonists being able to drain the entire ore silo from any random protolathe in a matter of seconds. It also would give cargo techs a job to do, they could go around restocking people's protolathes.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
realism has nothing to do with it it's entirely game design, there's no need for people to get things for free when there are ways to get them in game via player effort.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
I'm never a fan of fixing part of a problem while leaving the actual issue intact, but "borgs making infinite metal" is something that probably shouldn't exist.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
I guess this is good from a balance and realism perspective but damn if it isnt another day another "Make construction even more tedious and odious" PR.
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Player who complainted over being killed for looting cap office wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am Hey there, I'm Virescent, the super evil person who made the stupid appeal and didn't think it through enough. Just came here to say: screech, retards. Screech and writhe like the worms you are. Your pathetic little cries will keep echoing around for a while before quietting down. There is one great outcome from this: I rised up the blood pressure of some of you shitheads and lowered your lifespan. I'm honestly tempted to do this more often just to see you screech and writhe more, but that wouldn't be cool of me. So come on haters, show me some more of your high blood pressure please.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
Good. Fuck em
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Re: Muh realism codenut
Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:53 pm I guess this is good from a balance and realism perspective but damn if it isnt another day another "Make construction even more tedious and odious" PR.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
What's next? In april you have to file fake space-men taxes? You get banned if you don't do it?
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Re: Muh realism codenut
resource economy will never work btw, not in the current iteration anyhow
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Re: Muh realism codenut
Fuck who, borgs? This is a station-wide nerf.
I play the old man Ricky Paxton, and sometimes the borg Z.E.E.P.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Muh realism codenut
This is a really shitty change. Borgs were fine.
- Kendrickorium
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Re: Muh realism codenut
i see absolutely nothing wrong with this. it makes mining even more important, and will give the AI a department to bug when their cyborgs start complaining about no metal
edit: doesn't this game have mining BORGS
edit: doesn't this game have mining BORGS
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Re: Muh realism codenut
The problem is that it makes mining more important.Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:14 pm i see absolutely nothing wrong with this. it makes mining even more important, and will give the AI a department to bug when their cyborgs start complaining about no metal
edit: doesn't this game have mining BORGS
Miners would rather hunt megafauna because most consider just hitting rocks all shift boring.
Also, forcing borgs to spec into miner is inhumane.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Muh realism codenut
>entire game balanced by item economyiwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:58 pm resource economy will never work btw, not in the current iteration anyhow
>item economy is busted as shit
bros...
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Re: Muh realism codenut
Not only that (A large part of the problem with Infinite Metal Engi Borgs was "go engi we need metals" being really fucking lame. Wow, congratulations, now you're forcing them to go something even less of them wanted to be and for a much longer time), but Mining Borgs are also very much weaker. Not just in the "can't fight megas as well" sense but in the fact that their PKA, the only real way a borg has to mine, has less upgrade capacity, and can only fit 2 mods instead of 3.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:39 pmThe problem is that it makes mining more important.Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:14 pm i see absolutely nothing wrong with this. it makes mining even more important, and will give the AI a department to bug when their cyborgs start complaining about no metal
edit: doesn't this game have mining BORGS
Miners would rather hunt megafauna because most consider just hitting rocks all shift boring.
Also, forcing borgs to spec into miner is inhumane.
It's fucked.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
It's not even that they can't fight megas, they can if they're skilled enough. They just don't get any benefit for doing so and it's a law three violation unless you're doing it to save humans from harm or because a human ordered you to.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:54 pm Not only that (A large part of the problem with Infinite Metal Engi Borgs was "go engi we need metals" being really fucking lame. Wow, congratulations, now you're forcing them to go something even less of them wanted to be and for a much longer time), but Mining Borgs are also very much weaker. Not just in the "can't fight megas as well" sense but in the fact that their PKA, the only real way a borg has to mine, has less upgrade capacity, and can only fit 2 mods instead of 3.
It's fucked.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Muh realism codenut
When is engineering getting hardspace ship breaker as a side job? Call in a wrecked shuttle and scrap it for bits when the miners are all dead. I can already see areas we could add it in on meta, delta, kilo, and icebox. I'd be willing to map that.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
ahhh thats a good point.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:39 pmThe problem is that it makes mining more important.Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:14 pm i see absolutely nothing wrong with this. it makes mining even more important, and will give the AI a department to bug when their cyborgs start complaining about no metal
edit: doesn't this game have mining BORGS
Miners would rather hunt megafauna because most consider just hitting rocks all shift boring.
Also, forcing borgs to spec into miner is inhumane.
>Also, forcing borgs to spec into miner is inhumane.
good thing they arent humans! (haha)
perhaps the different levels of fauna on lavaland could be gated off, where you have to mine a certain amount in order for nanotrasen to allow you access? someone else could probably come up with a better idea.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
I wouldn't call it a law three violation. Technically, by removing the megafauna from lavaland, you remove the chance that any human from the station or otherwise can ever be harmed by them. Arguably, its a law 2 violation to leave them wandering around, along with any sort of fauna that might attack a miner.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:44 am It's not even that they can't fight megas, they can if they're skilled enough. They just don't get any benefit for doing so and it's a law three violation unless you're doing it to save humans from harm or because a human ordered you to.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
hmmmmmmmm......Armhulen wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:39 pm>entire game balanced by item economyiwishforducks wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:58 pm resource economy will never work btw, not in the current iteration anyhow
>item economy is busted as shit
bros...
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
some food for thought: some random prick can get hold of one of the million silo-linked objects on the station and suck the station dry. this is an extreme example of intentional grief but often i will walk over to a silo-linked object and be unable to print my things not because it's a conscious effort or decision but because either miners aren't mining or someone is sucking up all the resources by printing like... 3 cleavers. and the two solutions are to either cannabilize the walls and tables in your department or to just wait.
our entire game economy is balanced around if someone mines (a very easy task) but their efforts can easily be gimped by... 3 cleavers being printed. obviously we can't just make it so you can print items freely because then people would just print 1000000 cleaver just because they can. methinks a more interesting approach would be to make it so lathes instead queue up items to be lathed and the economy is more based around time to print
or y'know, accept that this is a roleplaying sandbox game by heart and to stop taking item economy so seriously. i don't trust any motherfucker to execute the idea above properly. they'll make it fucking worse than the lathe tax somehow (lol lathe tax)
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Re: Muh realism codenut
Hence "as well". They're worse at it than a Miner. But the core of the point is that it's irrelevant because they're also just straight up worse at mining. It's not even the lack of a plasmacutter, only being able to fit 2 upgrades on your PKA is killer.datorangebottle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:44 amIt's not even that they can't fight megas, they can if they're skilled enough. They just don't get any benefit for doing so and it's a law three violation unless you're doing it to save humans from harm or because a human ordered you to.CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:54 pm Not only that (A large part of the problem with Infinite Metal Engi Borgs was "go engi we need metals" being really fucking lame. Wow, congratulations, now you're forcing them to go something even less of them wanted to be and for a much longer time), but Mining Borgs are also very much weaker. Not just in the "can't fight megas as well" sense but in the fact that their PKA, the only real way a borg has to mine, has less upgrade capacity, and can only fit 2 mods instead of 3.
It's fucked.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
lol wait did they lower the amount of upgrades you can have on your PKACMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:30 am It's not even the lack of a plasmacutter, only being able to fit 2 upgrades on your PKA is killer.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
Borg PKA has always been 90%iwishforducks wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:49 amlol wait did they lower the amount of upgrades you can have on your PKACMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:30 am It's not even the lack of a plasmacutter, only being able to fit 2 upgrades on your PKA is killer.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
This won't change much except for odd cases where people use it to exploit. Not sure why some people are mad at this, lol.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
tldr because miners don't mine enough, and it's making miners that mine more important without relieving issues that are keeping actual miner players from mining.
long version:
Most miners are megafauna hunters now. Before this change, engiborgs were able to keep us stocked up on basic materials, at least enough to make another borg. Now they're incapable, and are actually a drain on those same resources they used to restock.
Miner players like myself stopped because of bileworms, the ORM not being usable on lavaland, and the changes to how the items are ordered. I've yet to return to see if the role's tolerable yet.
p.s. miner borgs are the only cyborg besides peacekeeper that can't do their job anywhere near as effectively as a human, because they get obsoleted almost roundstart.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Muh realism codenut
except they don't, cause megafauna has been broken for a year and is reliant on rng instead of skilldatorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:39 pm Miners would rather hunt megafauna because most consider just hitting rocks all shift boring.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
Normally I'd say Skill Issue, but you of all people saying this makes me believe it.Striders13 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:45 amexcept they don't, cause megafauna has been broken for a year and is reliant on rng instead of skilldatorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:39 pm Miners would rather hunt megafauna because most consider just hitting rocks all shift boring.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
...what?Striders13 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:45 amexcept they don't, cause megafauna has been broken for a year and is reliant on rng instead of skilldatorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:39 pm Miners would rather hunt megafauna because most consider just hitting rocks all shift boring.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
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Re: Muh realism codenut
PUHLEASE ELABORATE RIGHT FUCKING NOW?????????????????????????????Striders13 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:45 amexcept they don't, cause megafauna has been broken for a year and is reliant on rng instead of skilldatorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:39 pm Miners would rather hunt megafauna because most consider just hitting rocks all shift boring.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/issues/63886Armhulen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:00 amPUHLEASE ELABORATE RIGHT FUCKING NOW?????????????????????????????Striders13 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:45 amexcept they don't, cause megafauna has been broken for a year and is reliant on rng instead of skilldatorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:39 pm Miners would rather hunt megafauna because most consider just hitting rocks all shift boring.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
That is downright horrendeous to learn about just nowStriders13 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:53 amhttps://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/issues/63886Armhulen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:00 amPUHLEASE ELABORATE RIGHT FUCKING NOW?????????????????????????????Striders13 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:45 amexcept they don't, cause megafauna has been broken for a year and is reliant on rng instead of skilldatorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:39 pm Miners would rather hunt megafauna because most consider just hitting rocks all shift boring.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
there were attempts to revert the pr that caused the issue, but got shutdown as always. The creator of the pr never fixed it, so ???????Armhulen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:09 amThat is downright horrendeous to learn about just nowStriders13 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:53 amhttps://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/issues/63886Armhulen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:00 amPUHLEASE ELABORATE RIGHT FUCKING NOW?????????????????????????????Striders13 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:45 amexcept they don't, cause megafauna has been broken for a year and is reliant on rng instead of skilldatorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:39 pm Miners would rather hunt megafauna because most consider just hitting rocks all shift boring.
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Oh I just talked with the creator of mob ablilities and it was fixed on the 19th of that month so i can close that and say "ha!"
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Re: Muh realism codenut
I thought it was, too. It wasnt. Tried fighting bubbles last month, he casted his charge 5 times at once and instantly killed me (I was on full health)Armhulen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:21 am (it was fixed in https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/68382 )
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Re: Muh realism codenut
this pr will change nothing
nobody fixes shit anyways because it’s completely sisyphean and pointless, and the best most people do is just walling it off
nobody fixes shit anyways because it’s completely sisyphean and pointless, and the best most people do is just walling it off
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Re: Muh realism codenut
As someone who actually plays a lot of mining cyborg and does a lot of megafauna hunting while doing so, I don't think all of the megafauna are bugged. I've been fighting ashdrakes, hierophants and colossuses for a while and they seem to obey their normal rules. It's probably an issue with the charge ability itself, as the a number of mobs also use a nerfed version (lobstrosity and tarantula) and its extremely buggy.Striders13 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:22 am I thought it was, too. It wasnt. Tried fighting bubbles last month, he casted his charge 5 times at once and instantly killed me (I was on full health)
One thing I will note is that Ashdrake's attack cooldowns saw significant buffs to itself. You don't get nearly the same window to attack between the circle fire breath and the arena attack. This can lead to long chains of arena spam, and it sucks.
I'll also note that all megafauna still seem susceptible to a very strange, very inconsistent bug which I just dub as, "going ultra". Essentially, sometimes it seems like they just stop caring about their attack cooldowns and start spamming a bunch of attacks like you describe, however this used to happen before Space's mob abilities PR and it still happens now, albeit very rarely. I have no idea what causes it, and it happens so rarely that I can't really make a bug report about it either.
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Hell yeah now we're talking.dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:34 amGood. Fuck em
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
They're all bugged, it's just significantly more noticeable on bubblegum, since he regularly chains his attacks. Also a minor pet peeve is that bubble's attack telegraph no longer matches with where he's actually going, always deviating a tile or two from his destination. I never had this issue before the PR, and I used to frequently hunt fauna before it got bugged to hell.Indie-ana Jones wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:00 amAs someone who actually plays a lot of mining cyborg and does a lot of megafauna hunting while doing so, I don't think all of the megafauna are bugged. I've been fighting ashdrakes, hierophants and colossuses for a while and they seem to obey their normal rules. It's probably an issue with the charge ability itself, as the a number of mobs also use a nerfed version (lobstrosity and tarantula) and its extremely buggy.Striders13 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:22 am I thought it was, too. It wasnt. Tried fighting bubbles last month, he casted his charge 5 times at once and instantly killed me (I was on full health)
One thing I will note is that Ashdrake's attack cooldowns saw significant buffs to itself. You don't get nearly the same window to attack between the circle fire breath and the arena attack. This can lead to long chains of arena spam, and it sucks.
I'll also note that all megafauna still seem susceptible to a very strange, very inconsistent bug which I just dub as, "going ultra". Essentially, sometimes it seems like they just stop caring about their attack cooldowns and start spamming a bunch of attacks like you describe, however this used to happen before Space's mob abilities PR and it still happens now, albeit very rarely. I have no idea what causes it, and it happens so rarely that I can't really make a bug report about it either.
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Re: Muh realism codenut
anything that gives those whiny talking toasters utility that i, a superior humanoid lifeform, must rely on needs to be corrected immediately it is an unforgivable affront to the natural order that damns us all if left unchecked
don't let powergamers know that botany is the strongest job that can do anything if you have anything resembling an attention span and 2 brain cells to rub together
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Re: Muh realism codenut
I can't even get plants to mutate anymore.dendydoom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:04 am anything that gives those whiny talking toasters utility that i, a superior humanoid lifeform, must rely on needs to be corrected immediately it is an unforgivable affront to the natural order that damns us all if left unchecked
don't let powergamers know that botany is the strongest job that can do anything if you have anything resembling an attention span and 2 brain cells to rub together
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Re: Muh realism codenut
LOLdatorangebottle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:29 pm >scare off good faith mining players with overpowered enemies
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