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Most controversial issues in space station 13
What are the most controversial beliefs in coding, policy, and gameplay styles.
I'm not looking for something that the vast majority of people think is bad, but it gets brought up often enough to get people's panties in a twist.
We are looking for truly the most decisive beliefs and topics.
I'm not looking for something that the vast majority of people think is bad, but it gets brought up often enough to get people's panties in a twist.
We are looking for truly the most decisive beliefs and topics.
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
stun combat? new maps also usually get the community a bit up in arms
respect (let him do his thing)
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Post-revs, and in particular there's this attitude of antag rounds being sacred. Eg. "my antag round was ruined because an admin spawned 3 blobs". In my experience, players think antag rounds are special and admins think theyre cheap.
Speaking of antags being cheap, the ability for admins giving out antag tokens
Speaking of antags being cheap, the ability for admins giving out antag tokens
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The absolute unbridled entitlement of some people. It's a free game run by volunteers, developed for free open source. You have no rights, you have privileges.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
We do need to make antags cheaper, it causes people to play more aggressive but also would make people less toxic when they do get owned. I think plays getting a monthly tot/heretic token allowance of 1 token isn't a bad idea just so you can have some controlWineAllWine wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:50 pm Post-revs, and in particular there's this attitude of antag rounds being sacred. Eg. "my antag round was ruined because an admin spawned 3 blobs". In my experience, players think antag rounds are special and admins think theyre cheap.
Speaking of antags being cheap, the ability for admins giving out antag tokens
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Congrats on proving my point that it's controversialShellton(Mario) wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 6:46 pmWe do need to make antags cheaper, it causes people to play more aggressive but also would make people less toxic when they do get ownedWineAllWine wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:50 pm Post-revs, and in particular there's this attitude of antag rounds being sacred. Eg. "my antag round was ruined because an admin spawned 3 blobs". In my experience, players think antag rounds are special and admins think theyre cheap.
Speaking of antags being cheap, the ability for admins giving out antag tokens
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
Any new map, tragic how much flak every new map gets tbh
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I don't know why it bothered me so much but I remember getting really annoyed while reading some policy threads because people kept arguing in circles about what LRP and MRP is. It doesn't even matter in terms of the policy because we just have servers with and without the roleplay ruleset. Who cares if terry/manuel/sybil/the codebase is LRP/MRP/HRP or whatever the fuck.
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Feel free to stop doing it for free anytime jannie.
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You gotta love throwing a generic, metaphorical problem and seeing people take the blame on their own lmfao
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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The removal of nanites has been awful for the game overall. That’s my hot take
Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 6:32 pm all you godamn do is whine and complain come up with ideas, stop bitching for christs sake.
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The two most controversial things are felinids and silicon policy.
The only correct take on either topic is the opposite of whatever the person you're talking to thinks.
The only correct take on either topic is the opposite of whatever the person you're talking to thinks.
iamgoofball wrote:Vekter and MrMelbert are more likely to enforce the roleplay rules Manuel is supposed to be abiding by than Wesoda or Jackraxxus are.
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Well, duh. From an admin's point of view, there are antags every round. From the player's point of view, he rolls antag once a full moon.WineAllWine wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:50 pmIn my experience, players think antag rounds are special and admins think theyre cheap.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Jacquerel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:31 pmmight be more true to say they redirect the dogpile most of the time tbqh, like diving heroically onto a grenadekinnebian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:13 pm ekaterina stops threads from becoming dogpiles (...) they just point out logical things to bring up in context of a ban and people get mad at them because they refuse to discuss it
when everyone goes into peanuts already set on what their opinion is ekat's posts are a breath of fresh air
MrStonedOne wrote: ↑ Im gonna have to quote Ekaterina at you because they ended up saying this better than i would have
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
BeeSting12 wrote: ↑ Kieth4 nonoptimal ranked play nearly results in team loss, facing disciplinary action
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Ding ding!Jackraxxus wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 8:13 pm The two most controversial things are felinids and silicon policy.
The only correct take on either topic is the opposite of whatever the person you're talking to thinks.
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
players believing their opinion matters or is relevant to the game development process
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it's a simple fact of reality, there is no democracy in the development process.
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
That there should really be a codified space law system that's actually used. As it currently stands, the space law wiki page is 100% pointless and essentially a noob trap for new sec officers to get boinked because they perma'd a guy for running around with a backpack full of syndie shit and killing someone, instead of giving him a whole two minutes of jail. (of which the person has a 30% chance of ghosting out of spite anyways)
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
fastmos
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What the fuck do people even mean by this. Anything that actually moves gas is fastmos: monstermos, auxmos, katmos, ZAS, FEA, fuckin nu-LINDA.
We have names man just use em. Least that way I can understand what's being said (even if half of em are named after their developers curse you monster)
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virology.
you either love it or hate it.
inb4 sinfulbliss walks in here just to call it 'mid' and make me look bad.
you either love it or hate it.
inb4 sinfulbliss walks in here just to call it 'mid' and make me look bad.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Sex?
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
Creating MRP servers was a mistake. We should have just ever so slightly raised the mandated level of RP on tg servers across the board.
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I'm glad that this mindset has been dissipating not just for TG, but across SS13 as a whole. Its far less prevalent and toxic compared to how it was. A lot of servers had an epiphany that its all meaningless unless outright defined.kawoppi wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 7:28 pm I don't know why it bothered me so much but I remember getting really annoyed while reading some policy threads because people kept arguing in circles about what LRP and MRP is. It doesn't even matter in terms of the policy because we just have servers with and without the roleplay ruleset. Who cares if terry/manuel/sybil/the codebase is LRP/MRP/HRP or whatever the fuck.
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
talking to people
how much, how often, "do I have to", "do I have to be believable", etc.
this is a roleplaying game, it says so on the rules page, and there's always going to be new people to talk to so that you don't have to wait on code updates for some sort of new experience
but the "me click man til horizontal unga valid" mindset is strong for some people
how much, how often, "do I have to", "do I have to be believable", etc.
this is a roleplaying game, it says so on the rules page, and there's always going to be new people to talk to so that you don't have to wait on code updates for some sort of new experience
but the "me click man til horizontal unga valid" mindset is strong for some people
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manuel is high rpmindstormy wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 2:34 pm Creating MRP servers was a mistake. We should have just ever so slightly raised the mandated level of RP on tg servers across the board.
tg sybil basil and terry are medium rp
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On a related note, people who expect others to read their minds about what they want, when they themselves don't communicate it. It's the difference between pointing at a pen and expecting it to be handed to you versus asking for the pen.Omega_DarkPotato wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 5:10 pm talking to people
how much, how often, "do I have to", "do I have to be believable", etc.
this is a roleplaying game, it says so on the rules page, and there's always going to be new people to talk to so that you don't have to wait on code updates for some sort of new experience
but the "me click man til horizontal unga valid" mindset is strong for some people
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You just like to say things. That doesn't mean anything.oranges wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 8:39 pmmanuel is high rpmindstormy wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 2:34 pm Creating MRP servers was a mistake. We should have just ever so slightly raised the mandated level of RP on tg servers across the board.
tg sybil basil and terry are medium rp
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WE WATCH EACH OTHER
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it's pretty clear what it means if you look at the rules for those servers, which as an admin you should probably know.Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 9:38 pmYou just like to say things. That doesn't mean anything.oranges wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 8:39 pmmanuel is high rpmindstormy wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 2:34 pm Creating MRP servers was a mistake. We should have just ever so slightly raised the mandated level of RP on tg servers across the board.
tg sybil basil and terry are medium rp
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You have to forgive Orange since its been about a year since he's actually played on TG. Really glad our inclusive forum allows you into the players club.oranges wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 9:54 pmit's pretty clear what it means if you look at the rules for those servers, which as an admin you should probably know.mindstormy wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 2:34 pm You just like to say things. That doesn't mean anything.
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I know this one!Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 5:36 pm What are the most controversial beliefs in coding, policy, and gameplay styles.
I'm not looking for something that the vast majority of people think is bad, but it gets brought up often enough to get people's panties in a twist.
We are looking for truly the most decisive beliefs and topics.
Is it security meta protections..?
Oh oh! Is it uh... The meta gangs?
Is the Daily Double somewhere in the escalation category?
This gives me an idea...
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
gas move fast hurt brain make sad like try hold morning dew with hand except hand is station and dew slides through airlock fingers. Me think viscous gas make fires more cinematic, make cabin pressure more manageable in turn allow make breach ignorance more punishing. Less cold gas escape breach mean breach fire return to acute disaster environments not dilute semitruck danger. Holofan = crutch, speaks to intrinsic frustration managing gas current state. 3 year of fast gas still NO cure for firelock frustration? No complaints me hear when gas used to move 1 tile at time at run speed. Idk how gas moves what -mos is in these days. I stop gas development when honorless single tanker use my son nytril decomp reaction to war crime lead his execution by un crime no humanity. Me out mic downTheFinalPotato wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 7:01 amWhat the fuck do people even mean by this. Anything that actually moves gas is fastmos: monstermos, auxmos, katmos, ZAS, FEA, fuckin nu-LINDA.
We have names man just use em. Least that way I can understand what's being said (even if half of em are named after their developers curse you monster)
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
i hate coldmos but i don’t know if that’s controversial
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I am sick to bastard death of people screaming about how much they hate (insert new map here).
Please at least try to give good criticism instead of just IT SUCKS FUCK YOU.
Please at least try to give good criticism instead of just IT SUCKS FUCK YOU.
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oranges really desperate for attention in this thread eh
so proud of most everyone to not take the bait
so proud of most everyone to not take the bait
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
i like the new maps, but would still rather play on box/meta/delta
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I haven't seen a part of Northstar I didn't like other than the maints.Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:49 am i like the new maps, but would still rather play on box/meta/delta
love northstars brig, absolute peak comfy
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It's okay for some shifts to be low threat as long as the crew makes it interesting. This idea of "every round needs to have 80% of the crew dead, 60% of the station destroyed as the survivors fend off xenos and nukies and spiders from the evac shuttle" I sometimes see when dynamic is brought up is stupid. The best way to ruin something is by having it over and over.
also, make goof head coder who can merge any and all code changes for one week; let's see how fucked the server can get.
Like, please just have the kitchen and the bar next to each other. Stop putting them across the station from eachother, stop putting them on different z-levels, just put them together for pete's sake. I almost want to make a study to see if people visit the bar more when it's next to the kitchen.
also, make goof head coder who can merge any and all code changes for one week; let's see how fucked the server can get.
It feels like every new map is absolutely determined to be the opposite of meta to the point that they 180 on good metastation designs. (kinda felt this with birdbox to an extent.)Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:49 am i like the new maps, but would still rather play on box/meta/delta
love northstars brig, absolute peak comfy
Like, please just have the kitchen and the bar next to each other. Stop putting them across the station from eachother, stop putting them on different z-levels, just put them together for pete's sake. I almost want to make a study to see if people visit the bar more when it's next to the kitchen.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
i actually LOVE THE MAINTS.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 4:38 amI haven't seen a part of Northstar I didn't like other than the maints.Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:49 am i like the new maps, but would still rather play on box/meta/delta
love northstars brig, absolute peak comfy
it feels like a fucking horror movies dark alleyway, it actually FEELS SCARY to walk through it
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
it is also very colorful, you move from purple to red shifts and dark tunnels, half the maints are half finished, there are some really interesting ways to move through maints on the ship.Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 4:59 ami actually LOVE THE MAINTS.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 4:38 amI haven't seen a part of Northstar I didn't like other than the maints.Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 3:49 am i like the new maps, but would still rather play on box/meta/delta
love northstars brig, absolute peak comfy
it feels like a fucking horror movies dark alleyway, it actually FEELS SCARY to walk through it
go ahead and scream for help.. no one will find you.
ships good. one day we're going to really enjoy 3d ss13 in vr everyone.
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
YOU LOADED EM UP THERE YOU UNLOAD EM
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I'm Eugine Adrian Hynes on Manuel, I'm very uncool.
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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Re: Most controversial issues in space station 13
NO LIKE THEY'RE INTENTIONALLY HALF FINISHED WITH INTERESTING BREAKPOINTS IN THE FLOOR AND STUFF, ROOMS IN PROGRESS LIKE A REAL VESSEL
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