MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:17 am
Any time we have had a thing turn you valid, we have banned people who use that to start fights and win them, or people who use that to start fights than admin help losing.
Reading WGW and getting lynched was allowed, but people who won the fights they started frequently got bans for kill baiting.
The operative clause there is "fights they started frequently". Finding people using something to bait fights, even if it does rely on admins' judgement, is not the same as doing this abomination that Timber did, which either assumes everyone who uses this word does it to bait fights or it's knowingly fucking over those who don't.
Lacran wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 2:13 am
Its a social norm that people trust and percieve you diferently based on your personal opinions
Where? Definitely not where I live. I hope you realise not every place views these things the same way.
Lacran wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 2:13 am
as this restriction only applies if they are basing their racism off irl racism
Not from what I understand. It applies to every instance of using 'ligger'.
Archie700 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 2:17 am
Well you wanted more situations handled IC so you got it.
Being killed and spaced by a lizard for calling them the l-word is the most IC Issue thing ever.
Being administratively prevented from fighting back is not "handling a situation IC". If it wasn't for that, I could agree.
Liggers fucking around by going apeshit over hearing
a word and either winning or losing the fight is one thing, but forcing people to not fight back, thus ensuring the ligger wins, is another - it's a
de facto one round ban.
NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:51 am
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 4:29 am
I don’t think I’m going to be saying ligger much but on the off-chance I do and get attacked I will absolutely defend myself. Seems pretty dumb to just let yourself be killed
Don't break the rules intentionally because you disagree with a ruling.
You don't have to have intent to break a ruling this dumb. That's part of why it's so dumb. You can just be doing what you normally do, get attacked by some retard, fight back (the obvious default response to being attacked) (you are in a combat situation that requires focus, your mind is not thinking about rulings), and end up having broken a retarded ruling. It's not "common sense", like most rules are, to not fight back - quite the opposite.
nianjiilical wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:39 am
i think this thread is proving that theres a fundamental misalignment with certain forum posters who simply do not understand that racial slurs are bad
Let me fix that for you: certain forum posters simply do not
care that
you think that
fictional slurs are bad.
Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:49 am
no, they understand it, they are likely just used to an era of internet gaming where saying or using them was widely acceptable
Well said, this too.
dendydoom wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 11:19 am
that is not "de facto" banned because you will not be banned for saying it
It is a
de facto round-length ban, because Timber went into nonsense territory by ruling you "can't fight back". Otherwise it would simply be a bad ruling I disagree with. This makes it a mind-numbingly dumb ruling.
conrad wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 12:20 pm
Guys, ok, this might just be me, but I think Ekaterina takes the space game way too seriously.
Not the game itself, I think you mean the administrative mechanisms around the game. They need to be taken seriously. Good or bad administration makes or breaks a server.