Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
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Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
No reason. None at all. (Checkem)
edit: As others have suggested, I found out that byond version 514.xxxx broke our code to detect the drag+click aimbot trick, a zero-external-tools-needed aimbot exploit that byond calls a feature. Because it requires zero external tools, programs, or dlls, and was a previously known aimbot trick, there was likely a high occurrence of people using it.
This was fixed recently.
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/77316
edit: As others have suggested, I found out that byond version 514.xxxx broke our code to detect the drag+click aimbot trick, a zero-external-tools-needed aimbot exploit that byond calls a feature. Because it requires zero external tools, programs, or dlls, and was a previously known aimbot trick, there was likely a high occurrence of people using it.
This was fixed recently.
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/77316
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
what does this mean pay attention to them or like, report them or what
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
Jokes on you, I've never been robust.
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
ive purchased bdudy's ckeyJonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:52 am what does this mean pay attention to them or like, report them or what
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I dont know bdudys ckey so jokes on youstairmaster wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:18 amive purchased bdudy's ckeyJonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:52 am what does this mean pay attention to them or like, report them or what
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
Let me guess: Anti-cheat? Because this has been overdue, let me tell you, cheaters are a thing, and if they get axed hard and fast, the better for everyone!
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
Krimmity and Chef-SS apparantly disliked the issue report, so watch out for those people and measure their change in kdr from before and after the PR if you know their ckeys lol.
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
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I normally go by Ricky. Tell me how'd I do here. ⋆ 𝒯𝒶𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶 𝓈𝒶𝒷𝒶𝓉𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓁. ⋆
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
its bdudyJonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:56 amI dont know bdudys ckey so jokes on youstairmaster wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:18 amive purchased bdudy's ckeyJonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:52 am what does this mean pay attention to them or like, report them or what
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
oh yeahstairmaster wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:15 pmits bdudyJonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:56 amI dont know bdudys ckey so jokes on youstairmaster wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 3:18 amive purchased bdudy's ckeyJonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:52 am what does this mean pay attention to them or like, report them or what
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
Shoutout to the people who rely entirely on indirect combat and are not effected by swing combat at all.
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
I don't think this post is directed at swing combat.
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
I missed the swing combat test merge I'm sad
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
im so confusedItseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:43 amI don't think this post is directed at swing combat.
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
There was an exploit that allowed people to basically aimbot. That got fixed.MooCow12 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:06 amim so confusedItseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:43 amI don't think this post is directed at swing combat.
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat.
So, anybody stand out?
Any security players drop off the face of the server after they got robusted by a non-antag clown with an intern id?
As others have suggested, I found out that byond version 514.xxxx broke our code to detect the drag+click aimbot trick, a zero-external-tools-needed aimbot exploit that byond calls a feature. Because it requires zero external tools, programs, or dlls, and was a previously known aimbot trick, there was likely a high occurrence of people using it.
This was fixed recently.
Any security players drop off the face of the server after they got robusted by a non-antag clown with an intern id?
As others have suggested, I found out that byond version 514.xxxx broke our code to detect the drag+click aimbot trick, a zero-external-tools-needed aimbot exploit that byond calls a feature. Because it requires zero external tools, programs, or dlls, and was a previously known aimbot trick, there was likely a high occurrence of people using it.
This was fixed recently.
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
to be honest i don’t think i’ve ever witnessed an aimbotter a single time in all the time i’ve played TG
maybeee one or two evader accounts that lasted 1 round a piece for a day
it’s just too obvious to spot, anyone that would do it would be caught and banned instantly I think
maybeee one or two evader accounts that lasted 1 round a piece for a day
it’s just too obvious to spot, anyone that would do it would be caught and banned instantly I think
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
yeah no way someone exploiting it would last long, especially with how ahelps work. It just takes one round of getting unlucky and an admin connecting while you are validing people.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:29 am to be honest i don’t think i’ve ever witnessed an aimbotter a single time in all the time i’ve played TG
maybeee one or two evader accounts that lasted 1 round a piece for a day
it’s just too obvious to spot, anyone that would do it would be caught and banned instantly I think
Someone would need to perma randomname while also constantly changing their tendencies and at that point is it even worth it for something that you can just... practice??
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
I've been paying lummox 24 bux to break anticheat?
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
I am confused. What do you all think an aimbot would look like.
Say its a sec player, what do you think would show up to make it obvious?
Say its a sec player, what do you think would show up to make it obvious?
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
someones gunplay consistently being head and shoulders above everything else in their mechanical skillsetMrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:42 pm I am confused. What do you all think an aimbot would look like.
Say its a sec player, what do you think would show up to make it obvious?
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
jokes on you I've always been unrobust
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
Lasers and bullets are slow enough that aiming directly at someone rarely works. You generally have to lead your shots accurately, and it doesn't sound like the exploit works that way.TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 11:41 pm someones gunplay consistently being head and shoulders above everything else in their mechanical skillset
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
I think the point of confusion here is that "aimbot" is usually used in gaming communities to mean things which help you aim your clicks better for the purposes of firing a gun
but that's actually just optimising "how to click on the correct screen pixel"
an aimbot in ss13 is for clicking on things with unusual speed and accuracy, as it is in other games. that doesn't mean it helps you with shooting.
but that's actually just optimising "how to click on the correct screen pixel"
an aimbot in ss13 is for clicking on things with unusual speed and accuracy, as it is in other games. that doesn't mean it helps you with shooting.
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
because of how clicks and attacks work on /tg/, the aimbot trick i fixed would allow you to spam/mash clicks with a melee weapon and only actually attack (and spend an attack cooldown) when they are within a tile of you.
Melee aimbot would see a lot of moving into range, attacking, than moving out of range, or cases where their weapon hits the moment you come into range while yakety saxing. For sec doing this, this would be somewhat obvious but also you can time it so it looks plausible if you don't tryhard. non-sec you're more likely to see more of that triggering the lock and then spam clicking so that they attack the moment the target comes into a tile's range.
Also with how slow projectiles work and how few weapons are hitscan, and our lack of client side lag comp, a gun aimbot wouldn't be obvious nor even all that helpful except on short range. gunplay is about predicting where the target will be in a few ticks time, not clicking their mob accurately
Melee aimbot would see a lot of moving into range, attacking, than moving out of range, or cases where their weapon hits the moment you come into range while yakety saxing. For sec doing this, this would be somewhat obvious but also you can time it so it looks plausible if you don't tryhard. non-sec you're more likely to see more of that triggering the lock and then spam clicking so that they attack the moment the target comes into a tile's range.
Also with how slow projectiles work and how few weapons are hitscan, and our lack of client side lag comp, a gun aimbot wouldn't be obvious nor even all that helpful except on short range. gunplay is about predicting where the target will be in a few ticks time, not clicking their mob accurately
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
You just described a large part of melee combat. Moving in and out of range or “zoning” a certain tile you expect them to walk into. An aimbot would probably make that a lot easier but I think there would be some very obvious “tells” aside from just them being hyper accurate.MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:16 am because of how clicks and attacks work on /tg/, the aimbot trick i fixed would allow you to spam/mash clicks with a melee weapon and only actually attack (and spend an attack cooldown) when they are within a tile of you.
Melee aimbot would see a lot of moving into range, attacking, then moving out of range, or cases where their weapon hits the moment you come into range while yakety saxing. For sec doing this, this would be somewhat obvious but also you can time it so it looks plausible if you don't tryhard. non-sec you're more likely to see more of that triggering the lock and then spam clicking so that they attack the moment the target comes into a tile's range.
For instance an aimbot AFAIK locks into targets, regardless of how they move. When you get into range they will hit you as fast as cooldown allows, which is extremely obvious. Another thing you’ll notice is a complete lack of awareness about anything else, very mismatched clicking skills compared to pretty much any other facet of combat. It’s super obvious IMO but perhaps there are people that hide it well.
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Ty for explaining it better than me and also in ss13 terms, I just don’t see how someone will last long while still cheating, especially because you are going up against the same 500+ hour playerssinfulbliss wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:36 am
For instance an aimbot AFAIK locks into targets, regardless of how they move. When you get into range they will hit you as fast as cooldown allows, which is extremely obvious. Another thing you’ll notice is a complete lack of awareness about anything else, very mismatched clicking skills compared to pretty much any other facet of combat. It’s super obvious IMO but perhaps there are people that hide it well.
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
aimbot in ss13 is like cheats in a fighting game that make you automatically hit someone the instant you can
getting hit by someone's baton the instant they walk into range and it happening multiple times in a row is extremely obvious so I wouldnt call cheaters a huge issue
getting hit by someone's baton the instant they walk into range and it happening multiple times in a row is extremely obvious so I wouldnt call cheaters a huge issue
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
I still remember in the release video for rshoes aimbot he got stunned by a tg security officer despite having it on and then was robusted.
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Re: Pay attention to who all of the sudden stops being robust at combat. [aimbots are kill codenut]
they never last long with cheatingTheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 12:54 pm
I just don’t see how someone will last long while still cheating, especially because you are going up against the same 500+ hour players
theyre insanely easy to spot and insanely easy to just use stuns against
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