sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:52 am
the 2/3 MRP headmins are going to hostvote someone who aligns with their values - another MRP headmin. Okay so that's 1 confirmed MRP headmin.
For us to have an MRP headmin in the first place they needed to have had either the host or former LRP headmins pick them (as its been historically LRP dominated), so no. The fact we have an MRP headmin now disproves ingroup preference will always prevail.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:52 am
How about the adminvote? Well that's dominated by Manuel admins, because there are way more MRP admins than LRP admins. Literally look at the "Users browsing this forum" section and search scrubby. Okay so they vote for someone who aligns with their MRP values. That's 2 MRP headmins.
You literally JUST had a conversation with kinneban about this, there are more LRP admins than MRP (assuming we dont count cambell). If the issue is acitivity or community involvement on the LRP admins side, that's an admin issue, not something you rig the system to fix.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:52 am
How about the playervote? Well here there's a chance at least, like how we got kieth (took 3 cycles and lots of pushing). Even here the odds are stacked against LRP because Manuel is a tight-knit community with a lot of involvement and unity so they push lots more votes out than the thick of LRP players that just connect to the game servers and game.
Kieth likely had MRP voters too, also wise to point out one of Kieth's biggest detractors was a former Terry headmin Namelessfairy.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:52 am
There you have it, 2-3/3 headmins being MRP, notice "having a good platform" and "merit" doesn't factor into things here. That just determines
which MRP headmin you get.
Again, this makes no sense because we've historically had an LRP headmin majority, by your logic they'd be no way for us to have any MRP headmins and yet here we are.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:52 am
Is it bitching for no reason? No! This actually affects how the server changes.
Your concern is valid, your reasoning and attempts and resolving it aren't.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:52 am
Why not a separate MRP headmin? The policies are different, what they want is different, I see no reason why everyone wouldn't be happier this way.
Because we should have the best candidates for the position of headmin regardless of server affiliation. Your only issue is that LRP headmins is a minorty, your solution is to force MRP headmins to be a minority. Its not something that makes both parties happy, its just something that primarily makes you happy.
Because again, if you had as firm of a grasp on the state of LRP and the solutions that you think you did you being player's choice would be a no brainer and you should run. Be the change you want to see instead of just trying to rig the system so you're happy.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:00 am
oranges wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:54 am
the supposition that host votes are always an MRP headadmin is baseless nonsense that can be disproved by a short browsing through prior election threads
there are obviously exceptions but if you go through you can see most of them are chosen from MRP admins
Manuel is 1/3 of the active servers. why is it not a 33% chance of an MRP pick
Because votes are representative of what people want, not what people are.
EDIT:
I had a think and I honestly think we should just have a low roleplay policy ruleset like how manuel has, that establishes precedents and execeptions to the main ruleset to help preserve LRP culture by codifying it. Interpretations of the main ruleset are going to be subject to different context as time goes on. If you want to preserve LRP culture and rulesets you should get them agreed upon and written down like manuel has. This would give the broader rules like being a dick and erp LRP specific protections and intepretations.