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Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
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So lemme see if I got this straight. Data is being collected on me outside of what BYOND collects(CID, IP, ckey), some form of data analytics ran(you could be geolocating, running AI/ML on language/behavior, other seedy nefarious shit) on users that could be flawed/return a false positive, and then results purposely kept opaque from them? Are you not running against your own sites or hosts privacy policy or as well applicable Privacy Law on locality(State Law/EU Privacy Act), I request to see what the basis of this infraction is and data being used/processed. If not here then privately or IM'd if you believe this is a privacy matter. That quoted old response reeks of behind the curtain action. or do I have to raise this?
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So lemme see if I got this straight. Data is being collected on me outside of what BYOND collects(CID, IP, ckey), some form of data analytics ran(you could be geolocating, running AI/ML on language/behavior, other seedy nefarious shit) on users that could be flawed/return a false positive, and then results purposely kept opaque from them? Are you not running against your own sites or hosts privacy policy or as well applicable Privacy Law on locality(State Law/EU Privacy Act), I request to see what the basis of this infraction is and data being used/processed. If not here then privately or IM'd if you believe this is a privacy matter. That quoted old response reeks of behind the curtain action. or do I have to raise this?
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
So lemme see if I got this straight. Data is being collected on me outside of what BYOND collects(CID, IP, ckey), some form of data analytics ran(you could be geolocating, running AI/ML on language/behavior, other seedy nefarious shit) on users that could be flawed/return a false positive, and then results purposely kept opaque from them? Are you not running against your own sites or hosts privacy policy or as well applicable Privacy Law on locality(State Law/EU Privacy Act), I request to see what the basis of this infraction is and data being used/processed. If not here then privately or IM'd if you believe this is a privacy matter. That quoted old response reeks of behind the curtain action. or do I have to raise this?
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
So lemme see if I got this straight. Data is being collected on me outside of what BYOND collects(CID, IP, ckey), some form of data analytics ran(you could be geolocating, running AI/ML on language/behavior, other seedy nefarious shit) on users that could be flawed/return a false positive, and then results purposely kept opaque from them? Are you not running against your own sites or hosts privacy policy or as well applicable Privacy Law on locality(State Law/EU Privacy Act), I request to see what the basis of this infraction is and data being used/processed. If not here then privately or IM'd if you believe this is a privacy matter. That quoted old response reeks of behind the curtain action. or do I have to raise this?
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
So lemme see if I got this straight. Data is being collected on me outside of what BYOND collects(CID, IP, ckey), some form of data analytics ran(you could be geolocating, running AI/ML on language/behavior, other seedy nefarious shit) on users that could be flawed/return a false positive, and then results purposely kept opaque from them? Are you not running against your own sites or hosts privacy policy or as well applicable Privacy Law on locality(State Law/EU Privacy Act), I request to see what the basis of this infraction is and data being used/processed. If not here then privately or IM'd if you believe this is a privacy matter. That quoted old response reeks of behind the curtain action. or do I have to raise this?
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
the use of
reeks of some middle manager/entitled customer bullshit. Completely insane.or do I have to raise this?
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
So Binterpoes sees a guy with legitimate privacy concerns and he chooses to call him an idiot? This is disappointing. What happened to eloquent Timberposts?
Also he may be right that collecting data on him and not disclosing it may be a violation of the GDPR. Of course that doesn't matter if he turns out to not even be in the EU.
Also he may be right that collecting data on him and not disclosing it may be a violation of the GDPR. Of course that doesn't matter if he turns out to not even be in the EU.
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Jacquerel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:31 pmmight be more true to say they redirect the dogpile most of the time tbqh, like diving heroically onto a grenadekinnebian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:13 pm ekaterina stops threads from becoming dogpiles (...) they just point out logical things to bring up in context of a ban and people get mad at them because they refuse to discuss it
when everyone goes into peanuts already set on what their opinion is ekat's posts are a breath of fresh air
MrStonedOne wrote: ↑ Im gonna have to quote Ekaterina at you because they ended up saying this better than i would have
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
BeeSting12 wrote: ↑ Kieth4 nonoptimal ranked play nearly results in team loss, facing disciplinary action
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
Daily reminder not to reply to obvious troll posts.
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
Vekter why are you not using night mode? Do you hate your eyeballs?Vekter wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 1:17 pm viewtopic.php?p=704406
So lemme see if I got this straight. Data is being collected on me outside of what BYOND collects(CID, IP, ckey), some form of data analytics ran(you could be geolocating, running AI/ML on language/behavior, other seedy nefarious shit) on users that could be flawed/return a false positive, and then results purposely kept opaque from them? Are you not running against your own sites or hosts privacy policy or as well applicable Privacy Law on locality(State Law/EU Privacy Act), I request to see what the basis of this infraction is and data being used/processed. If not here then privately or IM'd if you believe this is a privacy matter. That quoted old response reeks of behind the curtain action. or do I have to raise this?
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
The "So lemme see if I got this straight." post has the same energy as WingsofRedemption's "LOOK HERE, LOOK, LISTEN!" clip
admin conduct in the appeal is a bit unprofessional though.
admin conduct in the appeal is a bit unprofessional though.
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
No, I just don't have my brightness turned up to maximum like an insane person.Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:45 pm Vekter why are you not using night mode? Do you hate your eyeballs?
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
s-so wemme see if i g-got thiws stwaight d-data iws b-b-being cowwected own me ouwtside of whawt byond cowwects(cid, ip, ckey), s-sowme fowm of data a-anyawytics w-wan(u couwwd be geowocating... wuwnnying ai/mw own wanguwage/behaviow, othew seedy nyefawiouws poopoo) own u-uwsews thawt couwwd be f-fwawed/wetuwwn a fawse positive, awnd then wesuwwts puwwposewy kept opaquwe f-fwom thewm!!11 r uwwuw n-nyowt wuwnnying against uw own sites ow h-hosts pwivacy powicy o-ow as weww appwicabwe pwivacy waw own wocawity(state waw/euw pwivacy act), i w-wequwest tuwwuw s-see whawt the b-b-b-basis of t-thiws infwaction iws a-awnd data b-being uwsed/pwocessed if nyowt h-h-hewe then pwivatewy o-ow im'd if uwwuw b-bewieve thiws iws a pwivacy mattew. thawt q-quwoted o-owd wesponse weeks of behind the c-cuwwtain a-action. ow duwwuw i h-have tuwwuw waise thiws!!11
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
night mode looks hideous on the forums and in gameImitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:45 pmVekter why are you not using night mode? Do you hate your eyeballs?Vekter wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 1:17 pm viewtopic.php?p=704406
So lemme see if I got this straight. Data is being collected on me outside of what BYOND collects(CID, IP, ckey), some form of data analytics ran(you could be geolocating, running AI/ML on language/behavior, other seedy nefarious shit) on users that could be flawed/return a false positive, and then results purposely kept opaque from them? Are you not running against your own sites or hosts privacy policy or as well applicable Privacy Law on locality(State Law/EU Privacy Act), I request to see what the basis of this infraction is and data being used/processed. If not here then privately or IM'd if you believe this is a privacy matter. That quoted old response reeks of behind the curtain action. or do I have to raise this?
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
This also where's my rating gamer
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
What's it like to be wrong?Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:51 pmnight mode looks hideous on the forums and in gameImitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:45 pmVekter why are you not using night mode? Do you hate your eyeballs?Vekter wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 1:17 pm viewtopic.php?p=704406
So lemme see if I got this straight. Data is being collected on me outside of what BYOND collects(CID, IP, ckey), some form of data analytics ran(you could be geolocating, running AI/ML on language/behavior, other seedy nefarious shit) on users that could be flawed/return a false positive, and then results purposely kept opaque from them? Are you not running against your own sites or hosts privacy policy or as well applicable Privacy Law on locality(State Law/EU Privacy Act), I request to see what the basis of this infraction is and data being used/processed. If not here then privately or IM'd if you believe this is a privacy matter. That quoted old response reeks of behind the curtain action. or do I have to raise this?
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
Alternate title: Innocent player uncovers illegal admin gangstalking ring, EU intervenes
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
I enjoy the headmin consensus being, "You're an idiot."
It makes me giggle.
It makes me giggle.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
guys before they put my headmin chip in and I can't say anything else, i need to break the secret method out and let everybody know how we knew
he's an idiot
he's an idiot
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
It is actually kinda weird how this is just laughed about. Privacy is a human right.ekaterina wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:30 pm So Binterpoes sees a guy with legitimate privacy concerns and he chooses to call him an idiot? This is disappointing. What happened to eloquent Timberposts?
Also he may be right that collecting data on him and not disclosing it may be a violation of the GDPR. Of course that doesn't matter if he turns out to not even be in the EU.
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
With all my awesome powers of admemery, I have no idea who you are, nor do I want to know. At best I can figure out what city you're playing from.technokek wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:20 pmIt is actually kinda weird how this is just laughed about. Privacy is a human right.ekaterina wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:30 pm So Binterpoes sees a guy with legitimate privacy concerns and he chooses to call him an idiot? This is disappointing. What happened to eloquent Timberposts?
Also he may be right that collecting data on him and not disclosing it may be a violation of the GDPR. Of course that doesn't matter if he turns out to not even be in the EU.
If you think that violates your rights, I suggest leaving the internet for good, cos every single web service you use and online game you play knows your IP address.
GDPR, like the appellant mentioned, doesn't come into it. We don't know your name, we don't know where you live, or your phone number, and we don't know any sensitive data about you. We don't keep records of these because we don't care. The data we keep exists exclusively to perform our duty at finding ban evaders, which exists to maintain server health and integrity for players that choose to be here in good faith.
And before ekat drops the nonsense "a man wishes to be free" and bla bla like being banned equates to being IRL arrested, if you evade and we don't catch you because, ya know, you're not breaking any rules or doing anything that warrants the Eye atop the Tower of Sauron to gaze upon you...that means we all win. Y'all need to learn admins are really lenient if you're here demonstrably in good faith.
All that to say that if you think we're some sort of ad and email collection agency yeah we're gonna laugh at you lmao
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
Hey Conrad what's your mother's maiden name and what's the last 5 digits of your ss? Asking for a friend!
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An important adendum 'cos I know some people can't read:
Don't get confused, mistaken or scammed: an admin sharing someone's IP address for any reason other than the performance of their duties is a very serious breach of admin conduct and I'm pretty sure they can get insta-deadminned if it's done on purpose.
Don't get confused, mistaken or scammed: an admin sharing someone's IP address for any reason other than the performance of their duties is a very serious breach of admin conduct and I'm pretty sure they can get insta-deadminned if it's done on purpose.
Florinda Corcuera e Villalpando, 75611, why do you ask?EmpressMaia wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:47 pm Hey Conrad what's your mother's maiden name and what's the last 5 digits of your ss? Asking for a friend!
I play the old man Ricky Paxton, and sometimes the borg Z.E.E.P.
Tell me how'd I do here. ⋆ 𝒯𝒶𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶 𝓈𝒶𝒷𝒶𝓉𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓁. ⋆
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Tell me how'd I do here. ⋆ 𝒯𝒶𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶 𝓈𝒶𝒷𝒶𝓉𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓁. ⋆
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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'Intellectual property' like this is protected by GDPR regardless. There is a serious legal precedent of these sorts of things never working, even with massive companies. TG meets all conditions for that protection, and will continue to do so.conrad wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:43 pmGDPRtechnokek wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:20 pmIt is actually kinda weird how this is just laughed about. Privacy is a human right.ekaterina wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:30 pm So Binterpoes sees a guy with legitimate privacy concerns and he chooses to call him an idiot? This is disappointing. What happened to eloquent Timberposts?
Also he may be right that collecting data on him and not disclosing it may be a violation of the GDPR. Of course that doesn't matter if he turns out to not even be in the EU.
The only reason that protection would falter is if people started being good boys and stopped ban evading for the rest of time, that 'secret' henceforth would lose its value. Anyone that chooses to yelp about GDPR may need to take more time to understand it.
Hugs
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
Bro isn't up to date on the latest ekaterina lore.
... which is odd, considering... y'know... you replied to that very same message.
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
Jacquerel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:31 pmmight be more true to say they redirect the dogpile most of the time tbqh, like diving heroically onto a grenadekinnebian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:13 pm ekaterina stops threads from becoming dogpiles (...) they just point out logical things to bring up in context of a ban and people get mad at them because they refuse to discuss it
when everyone goes into peanuts already set on what their opinion is ekat's posts are a breath of fresh air
MrStonedOne wrote: ↑ Im gonna have to quote Ekaterina at you because they ended up saying this better than i would have
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
BeeSting12 wrote: ↑ Kieth4 nonoptimal ranked play nearly results in team loss, facing disciplinary action
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
I'm gonna try to explain this as best I can without revealing any of the actual information that was used to ban this guy. Probably the easiest way to do that is to break down his insane ramblings.
"Data is being collected on me outside of what BYOND collects(CID, IP, ckey)" - It's not, these three pieces of information are all that's really stored on our servers about any specific player aside from anything they say in logs.
"Some form of data analytics ran" - No, not really.
Y"ou could be geolocating" - IPs can be used to very vaguely locate someone based on the IP's geo data but that's EXTREMELY vague (mine says I'm like 500 miles away from where I actually am) and we don't use that information anyway.
"Running AI/ML on language/behavior" - Do I have to explain why this is insane?
Hugs is 100% telling the truth in their reply to them, we don't do anything that would ever even come close to GDPR, all of our logs have IPs stripped save for the raw logs admins can access, your data is secure. Every website in existence grabs your IP address (they have to, it's literally how the internet works) and CID and ckey are proprietary BYOND stuff that can't identify you outside of the game.
E: I was informed that apparently IPs are covered under GDPR, but we're compliant in that case since you can't view player IPs without being authenticated as an admin.
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lmao i forgor sorry
I play the old man Ricky Paxton, and sometimes the borg Z.E.E.P.
Tell me how'd I do here. ⋆ 𝒯𝒶𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶 𝓈𝒶𝒷𝒶𝓉𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓁. ⋆
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Tell me how'd I do here. ⋆ 𝒯𝒶𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶 𝓈𝒶𝒷𝒶𝓉𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓁. ⋆
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
I am fine with it if any of the head mins want to visit me 🫠
joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑ I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
The hut has perished at my hands.
The pink arrow is always right.
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
Funny story I recently looked at ss13 cheating forums* and found spencleb under that name asking how to ban evade around the time he stopped playing/presumably got banned in 2020
*out of curiosity
*out of curiosity
joooks wrote:Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lolNaloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑ I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑ ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
The hut has perished at my hands.
The pink arrow is always right.
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
GDRP covers all data you have collected about me. May it be what color I gave my spaceman's hair or my full legal name. If you collected information from me, I have the right to know what that information is. It matter what type of information it yourVekter wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:09 pmI'm gonna try to explain this as best I can without revealing any of the actual information that was used to ban this guy. Probably the easiest way to do that is to break down his insane ramblings.
"Data is being collected on me outside of what BYOND collects(CID, IP, ckey)" - It's not, these three pieces of information are all that's really stored on our servers about any specific player aside from anything they say in logs.
"Some form of data analytics ran" - No, not really.
Y"ou could be geolocating" - IPs can be used to very vaguely locate someone based on the IP's geo data but that's EXTREMELY vague (mine says I'm like 500 miles away from where I actually am) and we don't use that information anyway.
"Running AI/ML on language/behavior" - Do I have to explain why this is insane?
Hugs is 100% telling the truth in their reply to them, we don't do anything that would ever even come close to GDPR, all of our logs have IPs stripped save for the raw logs admins can access, your data is secure. Every website in existence grabs your IP address (they have to, it's literally how the internet works) and CID and ckey are proprietary BYOND stuff that can't identify you outside of the game.
E: I was informed that apparently IPs are covered under GDPR, but we're compliant in that case since you can't view player IPs without being authenticated as an admin.
E: never mind I misread some of your post where you state these 3 data points are all you collect. I assumed there would be some IE shenanigans to collect more information like hardware IDs and stuff. If that's not the case its all good in my book.
I would still be happy about an proper privacy policy stating what is collected.
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
this is the kind of joke that got korol blacklisted maia, easyEmpressMaia wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:47 pm Hey Conrad what's your mother's maiden name and what's the last 5 digits of your ss? Asking for a friend!
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
the light blue tones are soothing, and everything timber says looks great to me, so i'm not sure what you are trying to prove!Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 4:48 pmWhat's it like to be wrong?Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:51 pmnight mode looks hideous on the forums and in gameImitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:45 pmVekter why are you not using night mode? Do you hate your eyeballs?Vekter wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 1:17 pm viewtopic.php?p=704406
So lemme see if I got this straight. Data is being collected on me outside of what BYOND collects(CID, IP, ckey), some form of data analytics ran(you could be geolocating, running AI/ML on language/behavior, other seedy nefarious shit) on users that could be flawed/return a false positive, and then results purposely kept opaque from them? Are you not running against your own sites or hosts privacy policy or as well applicable Privacy Law on locality(State Law/EU Privacy Act), I request to see what the basis of this infraction is and data being used/processed. If not here then privately or IM'd if you believe this is a privacy matter. That quoted old response reeks of behind the curtain action. or do I have to raise this?
E: Bonus:
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
we are still in our friendship arc so i want to be nice
its kind of bleeding into winter friendship arc with conrad
i was going to do typical rig but i've come to the conclusion that being nice or joking with them does absolutely nothing to cure the gigantic fucking Karenatitus they exhibit in every round i have to play with them
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
somehow timber looks even BETTER
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
TGUI has to get some of that data, but it's standard browser data - the same metadata your browser gives to every website it goes to. None of it is actually identifying information and none of it is stored beyond your actual gameplay session.
Additionally, your CID (Computer ID) is based off certain hardware factors that we're not familiar with - to my knowledge it's a randomized number generated based on certain aspects of your PC's hardware, but that information's proprietary and is never actually shared with us. All we get is the number itself, the purpose of which is to say what computer you're on when you log into our servers so we can tell if you're using the same PC to log into multiple accounts or ban your PC from playing here. I can reveal this information because it's common knowledge for most people who evade bans, so it's not going to help most of the folks we're trying to catch.
There is a database I can log into that lets me pull your IP, your CID, and your ckey, as well as what times you've connected to the server, but anything beyond that is not saved, or is at least not available to admins.
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
Dark mode is for kids trying to be different. That's simply it.
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
Light mode is nowhere as easy on the eyes as dark mode
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
this reminded me to write your invoice for this month's rent including late fees from the prior unpaid monthsKendrickorium wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:41 pm i was going to do typical rig but i've come to the conclusion that being nice or joking with them does absolutely nothing to cure the gigantic fucking Karenatitus they exhibit in every round i have to play with them
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
That right tee arr when someone calls you a Karen you throw your hair to the side and own it sister. *snaps fingers*TypicalRig wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:16 pmthis reminded me to write your invoice for this month's rent including late fees from the prior unpaid monthsKendrickorium wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:41 pm i was going to do typical rig but i've come to the conclusion that being nice or joking with them does absolutely nothing to cure the gigantic fucking Karenatitus they exhibit in every round i have to play with them
I play the old man Ricky Paxton, and sometimes the borg Z.E.E.P.
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
Honestly, I'd encourage this brave solider of christ to bring his 'privacy violations' upto a court. I'm sure any potential judge would LOVE that
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
>on sybilconrad wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:13 pmThat right tee arr when someone calls you a Karen you throw your hair to the side and own it sister. *snaps fingers*TypicalRig wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:16 pmthis reminded me to write your invoice for this month's rent including late fees from the prior unpaid monthsKendrickorium wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:41 pm i was going to do typical rig but i've come to the conclusion that being nice or joking with them does absolutely nothing to cure the gigantic fucking Karenatitus they exhibit in every round i have to play with them
>go to botany
>jokingly tell other botanist to kill finn if they start making bluespace tomatoes
>finn:
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
oh my god i just realized he made bluespace BANANAS that shift, thats actually pretty fucking good rig
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
i'm begging you kendrick i can barely afford my own rent i can't afford yours too
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
TypicalRig knows one diss.
I play the old man Ricky Paxton, and sometimes the borg Z.E.E.P.
Tell me how'd I do here. ⋆ 𝒯𝒶𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶 𝓈𝒶𝒷𝒶𝓉𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓁. ⋆
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
i'm almost positive they arent even doing it right
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
the alternative is much more likely to be refusing service to all of europe which i'm sure you would find more annoyingtechnokek wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:20 pmIt is actually kinda weird how this is just laughed about. Privacy is a human right.ekaterina wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:30 pm So Binterpoes sees a guy with legitimate privacy concerns and he chooses to call him an idiot? This is disappointing. What happened to eloquent Timberposts?
Also he may be right that collecting data on him and not disclosing it may be a violation of the GDPR. Of course that doesn't matter if he turns out to not even be in the EU.
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
If you're that concerned about your privacy, then just simply don't use the internet. I feel like the people that are this concerned were fed from propaganda by shitty VPN companies that have malicious intent.
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
It's not crazy to be concerned. However it's naive to think we're not gonna hold your information that is necessary for finding ban evaders, and yeah if someone is that irked about us holding the IP of their connection they should not use the internet.
We don't hold any sensitive data. No emails, names, addresses, birthdays, names of parents. Nada. We have the IP from where you play, the CID from the computer you use and the ckey you used when registering to byond. This thread has at least been informative on what data we hold.
The funniest shit I can think of is someone going "WELL ACHTCHUALLY GDPR GIMME MY INFO" when all three are things they can already access themselves.
I guess if you really wanna press the issue you can ask for your connection history. :shrug:
I play the old man Ricky Paxton, and sometimes the borg Z.E.E.P.
Tell me how'd I do here. ⋆ 𝒯𝒶𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶 𝓈𝒶𝒷𝒶𝓉𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓁. ⋆
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Tell me how'd I do here. ⋆ 𝒯𝒶𝓀𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒶 𝓈𝒶𝒷𝒶𝓉𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓁. ⋆
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
I use Linux for this exact reason. I wouldn't really have a problem if tg station ceased to server Europe. We would probably get an alternative soon or later that is compliant and even not I wouldn't really mind that much. I can always play something else.oranges wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:46 pmthe alternative is much more likely to be refusing service to all of europe which i'm sure you would find more annoyingtechnokek wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:20 pmIt is actually kinda weird how this is just laughed about. Privacy is a human right.ekaterina wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:30 pm So Binterpoes sees a guy with legitimate privacy concerns and he chooses to call him an idiot? This is disappointing. What happened to eloquent Timberposts?
Also he may be right that collecting data on him and not disclosing it may be a violation of the GDPR. Of course that doesn't matter if he turns out to not even be in the EU.
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Re: Local Ban Evader Hates the Antichrist
I would, it would finally make me have to get a VPNtechnokek wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:12 amI use Linux for this exact reason. I wouldn't really have a problem if tg station ceased to server Europe. We would probably get an alternative soon or later that is compliant and even not I wouldn't really mind that much. I can always play something else.oranges wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:46 pmthe alternative is much more likely to be refusing service to all of europe which i'm sure you would find more annoyingtechnokek wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:20 pmIt is actually kinda weird how this is just laughed about. Privacy is a human right.ekaterina wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:30 pm So Binterpoes sees a guy with legitimate privacy concerns and he chooses to call him an idiot? This is disappointing. What happened to eloquent Timberposts?
Also he may be right that collecting data on him and not disclosing it may be a violation of the GDPR. Of course that doesn't matter if he turns out to not even be in the EU.
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