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viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35171this guy's an idiot
sir can you please provide extraordinary evidence for this extraordinary claim
Ok. Vekter was talking about how gender identity isn't a political question. I was making the argument that it is a political question because of x,y,z. I don't read vetker's post or my response as talking about the rules, so when you come in with "easy there bud we don't ban free speech just bigoty heres a link to the rules no worries also we just banned that other guy for being an asshole" I hope you(and everyone reading this) can understand why I was reading that as a threat.Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:25 pm???
can you please clarify in a few sentences what exactly you'd like me to answer because i'm half talking about the just and blind enforcement of the rules (my admin hat) and i'm half talking about stupid bullshit that drove me to the point of leaving my country of origin (my regular human being with a career and social interests hat)
my honor i calmly explained that i dont believe in a genocide.Omega_DarkPotato wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:03 pmfor context as the banning adminKendrickorium wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:36 pm stairmaster was recently banned from discord over calmly explaining a differing opinion and was then called a piece of shit after the fact by the banning admin
(this also just happened in a very recent ban appeal)
stairmaster was banned for denying a genocide in politics on topic
shut the fuck up
Observe the horseshoe.kieth4 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:17 pm
Yeh that's true I suppose. But my point about politics still stands rlly
i'd prefer it nobody felt threatened. that's the point of ejecting bigotry from a community. if you're going to have it, have it somewhere else, way, way far away from hereBoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:29 pm Ok. Vekter was talking about how gender identity isn't a political question. I was making the argument that it is a political question because of x,y,z. I don't read vetker's post or my response as talking about the rules, so when you come in with "easy there bud we don't ban free speech just bigoty heres a link to the rules no worries also we just banned that other guy for being an asshole" I hope you(and everyone reading this) can understand why I was reading that as a threat.
Sure. If we look at 2020 census data we can see that more blue states lost votes and more red states gained votes.
Listen man I'm just happy you were the bigger man and expelled yourself out of my country. I really hope you enjoy yurope in the coming years friend. Best of luck to ya.Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:31 pmi'd prefer it nobody felt threatened. that's the point of ejecting bigotry from a community. if you're going to have it, have it somewhere else, way, way far away from hereBoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:29 pm Ok. Vekter was talking about how gender identity isn't a political question. I was making the argument that it is a political question because of x,y,z. I don't read vetker's post or my response as talking about the rules, so when you come in with "easy there bud we don't ban free speech just bigoty heres a link to the rules no worries also we just banned that other guy for being an asshole" I hope you(and everyone reading this) can understand why I was reading that as a threat.
This is a sane answer
but I think this is cringe cause I disagree that trans flag aren't political; the rights themselves I suppose are not. I'm Ukrainian, but if I wanted to make a statement I would wave a flag that had the Ukie trident on it. Using this logic, I would think that someone who is trans is perfectly fine existing as a trans person, but if they wanted to make a statement they would wave around the pride flag. Inb4 being Ukrainian is political, I can't change which country and bloodline I'm from, just like trans people can't magically stop being trans.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:19 pm E: I would also slap people for spraypainting "SUPPORT UKRAINE" or "FREE PALESTINE" in-game. Those are objectively political statements. Anything involving LGBT+ matters is not politics. There's an objective correct and incorrect answer to the matter. Tell me which one you think is right and I'll tell you if you get banned.
Reminding you to educate yourself on the rules before you plant a very well planted landmine and swandive into it is the very opposite of threatening.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:23 pmOk, I know you just like throwing a link towards the rules in discussions that arn't even talking about them.Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:19 pmthis shit is being mixed up with freedom of speech/political alignment/censorship/whatever. at the end of the day political leanings should just be blacked out with a marker to decide whether something breaks the rules
i'm not threatening you
Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
smells like shit in mississippiJonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:32 pm did you guys know the Mississippi river starts in Minnesota and smells fresh as can be?
i'd prefer to have been born somewhere where i don't have to focus on ensuring that my parents have an option to leave a rapidly dissolving economy because their only other option is to die broke
this falls far from extraordinary evidence and appears to be economically, not politically, driven based on the laziest sources i could find that are six years out of dateBoot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:33 pm Sure. If we look at 2020 census data we can see that more blue states lost votes and more red states gained votes.
>You wouldn't be saying that Scriptis is threatening you if he didn't have the capacity to follow through on that threat.conrad wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:36 pmReminding you to educate yourself on the rules before you plant a very well planted landmine and swandive into it is the very opposite of threatening.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:23 pmOk, I know you just like throwing a link towards the rules in discussions that arn't even talking about them.Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:19 pmthis shit is being mixed up with freedom of speech/political alignment/censorship/whatever. at the end of the day political leanings should just be blacked out with a marker to decide whether something breaks the rules
i'm not threatening you
You wouldn't be saying this if Scriptis wasn't a staff member lmao
Painting gay flags around the station isn't asking for your tax money retard. Stop turning things political when it doesn't need to be. Cope about your tax somewhere else.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:11 pmI 100% agree that nothing that goes on in ones pants is a political question. What is a political question is if my tax money is going to pay for any medicine of surgery to alleviate their mental issues. Even just calling it a mental issue is a political problem now because some people just want self ID.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:43 pmThe right is trying to make it into a political matter, but what is in someone's pants is not the business of the government or anyone but that person. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it's not a good faith argument to say it's political just because there are people in our government who are pushing the matter.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:36 pm Gender Identity is political in the current reality. This isn't even a question right now. American society is currently tackling the trans issue with what are they? To what extent do they exist? How welcoming ought we be to people who arn't gender conforming? I get that you think that these are all very simple and fall along morally good/bad lines but the fact of the matter is that they are a hot button issue that people are going to use to help guide them in who they are voting for in the political process.
We will not be banning people who want to display support for trans people or any other part of the LGBT spectrum. If you really want to call it hypocritical because we ban all other references to current day politics, then go right ahead. It's not going to change anything, but if it makes you feel better to think I'm a big ol' meanie, then by all means.
I disagree.Turbonerd wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:42 pmPainting gay flags around the station isn't asking for your tax money retard. Stop turning things political when it doesn't need to be. Cope about your tax somewhere else.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:11 pmI 100% agree that nothing that goes on in ones pants is a political question. What is a political question is if my tax money is going to pay for any medicine of surgery to alleviate their mental issues. Even just calling it a mental issue is a political problem now because some people just want self ID.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:43 pmThe right is trying to make it into a political matter, but what is in someone's pants is not the business of the government or anyone but that person. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it's not a good faith argument to say it's political just because there are people in our government who are pushing the matter.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:36 pm Gender Identity is political in the current reality. This isn't even a question right now. American society is currently tackling the trans issue with what are they? To what extent do they exist? How welcoming ought we be to people who arn't gender conforming? I get that you think that these are all very simple and fall along morally good/bad lines but the fact of the matter is that they are a hot button issue that people are going to use to help guide them in who they are voting for in the political process.
We will not be banning people who want to display support for trans people or any other part of the LGBT spectrum. If you really want to call it hypocritical because we ban all other references to current day politics, then go right ahead. It's not going to change anything, but if it makes you feel better to think I'm a big ol' meanie, then by all means.
You're the one bringing politics into the game. Consider asking your parents/guardian before posting a comment on the internet again.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:44 pmI disagree.Turbonerd wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:42 pmPainting gay flags around the station isn't asking for your tax money retard. Stop turning things political when it doesn't need to be. Cope about your tax somewhere else.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:11 pmI 100% agree that nothing that goes on in ones pants is a political question. What is a political question is if my tax money is going to pay for any medicine of surgery to alleviate their mental issues. Even just calling it a mental issue is a political problem now because some people just want self ID.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:43 pmThe right is trying to make it into a political matter, but what is in someone's pants is not the business of the government or anyone but that person. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it's not a good faith argument to say it's political just because there are people in our government who are pushing the matter.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:36 pm Gender Identity is political in the current reality. This isn't even a question right now. American society is currently tackling the trans issue with what are they? To what extent do they exist? How welcoming ought we be to people who arn't gender conforming? I get that you think that these are all very simple and fall along morally good/bad lines but the fact of the matter is that they are a hot button issue that people are going to use to help guide them in who they are voting for in the political process.
We will not be banning people who want to display support for trans people or any other part of the LGBT spectrum. If you really want to call it hypocritical because we ban all other references to current day politics, then go right ahead. It's not going to change anything, but if it makes you feel better to think I'm a big ol' meanie, then by all means.
I disagree.Turbonerd wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:45 pmYou're the one bringing politics into the game. Consider asking your parents/guardian before posting a comment on the internet again.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:44 pmI disagree.Turbonerd wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:42 pmPainting gay flags around the station isn't asking for your tax money retard. Stop turning things political when it doesn't need to be. Cope about your tax somewhere else.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:11 pmI 100% agree that nothing that goes on in ones pants is a political question. What is a political question is if my tax money is going to pay for any medicine of surgery to alleviate their mental issues. Even just calling it a mental issue is a political problem now because some people just want self ID.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:43 pmThe right is trying to make it into a political matter, but what is in someone's pants is not the business of the government or anyone but that person. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it's not a good faith argument to say it's political just because there are people in our government who are pushing the matter.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:36 pm Gender Identity is political in the current reality. This isn't even a question right now. American society is currently tackling the trans issue with what are they? To what extent do they exist? How welcoming ought we be to people who arn't gender conforming? I get that you think that these are all very simple and fall along morally good/bad lines but the fact of the matter is that they are a hot button issue that people are going to use to help guide them in who they are voting for in the political process.
We will not be banning people who want to display support for trans people or any other part of the LGBT spectrum. If you really want to call it hypocritical because we ban all other references to current day politics, then go right ahead. It's not going to change anything, but if it makes you feel better to think I'm a big ol' meanie, then by all means.
we should be implementing the goof plan of letting suspiciously wealthy furries giving us their money for in game gmod anime player avatarsiwishforducks wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:42 pm can we just call boot a numbnutz/dumbass/retard/poopy head and move on with our lives? like come on, guys. we’re wasting our time. and time is money. we could be making bank vaults worth of money right now. like big fat stacks of cash. we could be rebuilding the twin towers with that money. building a fifth pyramid. constructing a second great wall in china. moving the effiel tower by attaching big wheels to it. the possibilities are endless
Stop spamming. If you have nothing to say, just don't say it you waste of scrolling space.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:47 pmI disagree.Turbonerd wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:45 pmYou're the one bringing politics into the game. Consider asking your parents/guardian before posting a comment on the internet again.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:44 pmI disagree.Turbonerd wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:42 pmPainting gay flags around the station isn't asking for your tax money retard. Stop turning things political when it doesn't need to be. Cope about your tax somewhere else.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:11 pmI 100% agree that nothing that goes on in ones pants is a political question. What is a political question is if my tax money is going to pay for any medicine of surgery to alleviate their mental issues. Even just calling it a mental issue is a political problem now because some people just want self ID.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:43 pmThe right is trying to make it into a political matter, but what is in someone's pants is not the business of the government or anyone but that person. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it's not a good faith argument to say it's political just because there are people in our government who are pushing the matter.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:36 pm Gender Identity is political in the current reality. This isn't even a question right now. American society is currently tackling the trans issue with what are they? To what extent do they exist? How welcoming ought we be to people who arn't gender conforming? I get that you think that these are all very simple and fall along morally good/bad lines but the fact of the matter is that they are a hot button issue that people are going to use to help guide them in who they are voting for in the political process.
We will not be banning people who want to display support for trans people or any other part of the LGBT spectrum. If you really want to call it hypocritical because we ban all other references to current day politics, then go right ahead. It's not going to change anything, but if it makes you feel better to think I'm a big ol' meanie, then by all means.
I do have something to say. If you are going to attack me I have every right to say I disagree.Turbonerd wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:48 pmStop spamming. If you have nothing to say, just don't say it you waste of scrolling space.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:47 pmI disagree.Turbonerd wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:45 pmYou're the one bringing politics into the game. Consider asking your parents/guardian before posting a comment on the internet again.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:44 pmI disagree.Turbonerd wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:42 pmPainting gay flags around the station isn't asking for your tax money retard. Stop turning things political when it doesn't need to be. Cope about your tax somewhere else.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:11 pmI 100% agree that nothing that goes on in ones pants is a political question. What is a political question is if my tax money is going to pay for any medicine of surgery to alleviate their mental issues. Even just calling it a mental issue is a political problem now because some people just want self ID.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:43 pmThe right is trying to make it into a political matter, but what is in someone's pants is not the business of the government or anyone but that person. You can argue until you're blue in the face, but it's not a good faith argument to say it's political just because there are people in our government who are pushing the matter.Boot wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:36 pm Gender Identity is political in the current reality. This isn't even a question right now. American society is currently tackling the trans issue with what are they? To what extent do they exist? How welcoming ought we be to people who arn't gender conforming? I get that you think that these are all very simple and fall along morally good/bad lines but the fact of the matter is that they are a hot button issue that people are going to use to help guide them in who they are voting for in the political process.
We will not be banning people who want to display support for trans people or any other part of the LGBT spectrum. If you really want to call it hypocritical because we ban all other references to current day politics, then go right ahead. It's not going to change anything, but if it makes you feel better to think I'm a big ol' meanie, then by all means.
your post is 708.8 pixels tall
I'm sorry I don't take the word of adrian zenz and the other victims of communism dotards as gospelOmega_DarkPotato wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:03 pmKendrickorium wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:36 pm stairmaster was recently banned from discord over calmly explaining a differing opinion and was then called a piece of shit after the fact by the banning admin
(this also just happened in a very recent ban appeal)
stairmaster was banned for denying a genocide in politics on topic
shut the fuck up
Don't tighten the tinfoil hat too tight.
The almighty quote arrow.
Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
MrStonedOne wrote:I always read dendy's walls of text
holy shit...... we could buy like two grocery stores with that money..Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:47 pmwe should be implementing the goof plan of letting suspiciously wealthy furries giving us their money for in game gmod anime player avatarsiwishforducks wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:42 pm can we just call boot a numbnutz/dumbass/retard/poopy head and move on with our lives? like come on, guys. we’re wasting our time. and time is money. we could be making bank vaults worth of money right now. like big fat stacks of cash. we could be rebuilding the twin towers with that money. building a fifth pyramid. constructing a second great wall in china. moving the effiel tower by attaching big wheels to it. the possibilities are endless
we'd be rich, iwishforducks. rich i tell you. banning erp has been catastrophic for the tgstation economy
I don't care if you disagree, you're wrong. I'm telling you as someone who is a member of the LGBT community who knows 20+ trans people - trans identities and anything involving them are not a political statement. This includes using pride flags. If the use of a pride flag offends you, this is not the community for you.Soyoboyo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:35 pm but I think this is cringe cause I disagree that trans flag aren't political; the rights themselves I suppose are not. I'm Ukrainian, but if I wanted to make a statement I would wave a flag that had the Ukie trident on it. Using this logic, I would think that someone who is trans is perfectly fine existing as a trans person, but if they wanted to make a statement they would wave around the pride flag. Inb4 being Ukrainian is political, I can't change which country and bloodline I'm from, just like trans people can't magically stop being trans.
I disagree, this community is welcoming to all who see these things are rightly political.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:13 pmI don't care if you disagree, you're wrong. I'm telling you as someone who is a member of the LGBT community who knows 20+ trans people - trans identities and anything involving them are not a political statement. This includes using pride flags. If the use of a pride flag offends you, this is not the community for you.Soyoboyo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:35 pm but I think this is cringe cause I disagree that trans flag aren't political; the rights themselves I suppose are not. I'm Ukrainian, but if I wanted to make a statement I would wave a flag that had the Ukie trident on it. Using this logic, I would think that someone who is trans is perfectly fine existing as a trans person, but if they wanted to make a statement they would wave around the pride flag. Inb4 being Ukrainian is political, I can't change which country and bloodline I'm from, just like trans people can't magically stop being trans.
Nobody has been banned for "holding different political views" in our community. Intern John's ban was somewhat controversial and not a matter I was involved in; if you feel the banning admin overstepped their bounds, you are free to take it up with them or the head admins, but their ban was significantly reduced to only being banned from the political channel.
Boldened part sigged without context.Vekter wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:13 pmI don't care if you disagree, you're wrong. I'm telling you as someone who is a member of the LGBT community who knows 20+ trans people - trans identities and anything involving them are not a political statement. This includes using pride flags. If the use of a pride flag offends you, this is not the community for you.Soyoboyo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:35 pm but I think this is cringe cause I disagree that trans flag aren't political; the rights themselves I suppose are not. I'm Ukrainian, but if I wanted to make a statement I would wave a flag that had the Ukie trident on it. Using this logic, I would think that someone who is trans is perfectly fine existing as a trans person, but if they wanted to make a statement they would wave around the pride flag. Inb4 being Ukrainian is political, I can't change which country and bloodline I'm from, just like trans people can't magically stop being trans.
Nobody has been banned for "holding different political views" in our community. Intern John's ban was somewhat controversial and not a matter I was involved in; if you feel the banning admin overstepped their bounds, you are free to take it up with them or the head admins, but their ban was significantly reduced to only being banned from the political channel.
Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
Your post doesn't make any sense, try again.
You have my blessing.
Nope it does you're wrong.
inb4 this thread gets nuked (this statement and the quote are unrelated, I just agree with scriptis)
is this an abortion jokeTheBibleMelts wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:47 pm he's quality control banned from my perspective and I have no temptations to abort that action.
brother in christ, the flags are just cool because flags are cool. And straight people don't have pride flags because you have the default sexuality bud, not much to be proud about being a average joe.BlueMemesauce wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:17 pm "pride flags aren't a political statement" The entire fucking point of flags is to be a political statement. What's the point of pretending that they aren't? If pride flags truly weren't a political statement and were just the equivalent of saying this is my sexuality, then there would also be pride flags for straight people. There's not because the whole point of pride flags is making the statement that you're proud of your sexuality and don't care if any homophobic people think that it's wrong. (yes there are technically straight pride flags but these are just used by homophobic people to mock LGBT people rather than to express their sexuality, which is also a political statement)
If sexuality is something that we are born with then its kind cringe to be proud about it. Wow you were born that way not really a big achievement.Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:29 pmbrother in christ, the flags are just cool because flags are cool. And straight people don't have pride flags because you have the default sexuality bud, not much to be proud about being a average joe.BlueMemesauce wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:17 pm "pride flags aren't a political statement" The entire fucking point of flags is to be a political statement. What's the point of pretending that they aren't? If pride flags truly weren't a political statement and were just the equivalent of saying this is my sexuality, then there would also be pride flags for straight people. There's not because the whole point of pride flags is making the statement that you're proud of your sexuality and don't care if any homophobic people think that it's wrong. (yes there are technically straight pride flags but these are just used by homophobic people to mock LGBT people rather than to express their sexuality, which is also a political statement)
the virgin "flags have been used as a symbol for centuries to express political support for countries, ideologies and organizations"Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:29 pm brother in christ, the flags are just cool because flags are cool. And straight people don't have pride flags because you have the default sexuality bud, not much to be proud about being a average joe.
Communists couldn't ignore the one in Germany once the nazis attacked them. They are more then happy to ignore the one in China.
What do you mean? I literally got banned from the discord for denying it.
Oh my bad i blankly assumed it was a holocaust deny ban and had nothing to do with CHI-NABlueMemesauce wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:44 pmWhat do you mean? I literally got banned from the discord for denying it.
possibly because all the scholarship on the subject comes from one guy (adrian zenz) who also believes the german soldiers who died in wwii should be counted as victims of communism (HMMMM)
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