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Re: policynut about mechas for a complimenut
I feel like this falls under the "don't powergame" rule already, well I guess it's more of a "don't do this every round and otherwise you're fine"
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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Re: policynut about mechas for a complimenut
what does "not every shift" mean in this context? are you gonna get banned if the previous 2 robos spammed mechs? whos gonna check if 5 robos are doing it on a 5 shift rotation, equating to 4 shifts of no mech and 1 of mech spam for them but mech spam every time for everyone else?
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People don't typically check previous rounds, because logs only reveal so much. It's more whether someone has a reputation, or whether admins notice that someone makes a habit of making mechs too often. Don't overthink it, it's handled by a vibe check, not on some arbitrary tally count.Timonk wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:36 am what does "not every shift" mean in this context? are you gonna get banned if the previous 2 robos spammed mechs? whos gonna check if 5 robos are doing it on a 5 shift rotation, equating to 4 shifts of no mech and 1 of mech spam for them but mech spam every time for everyone else?
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i dont get why we make peanut threads for threads with no posting restrictions which you can just reply to in order to share your thoughts
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at one point around 2020 someone discovered if you powered a phazon with a yellow slime core it would basically give you unlimited power and you could phase as much as you wanted. that week of rounds still lives on in my memory until it was fixed. you would hide in a bathroom stall, open your uplink and immediately 8 phazons would phase through the walls and reduce you to a pile of inert subatomic particulate before you could scream.
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Skill issuedendydoom wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:21 am at one point around 2020 someone discovered if you powered a phazon with a yellow slime core it would basically give you unlimited power and you could phase as much as you wanted. that week of rounds still lives on in my memory until it was fixed. you would hide in a bathroom stall, open your uplink and immediately 8 phazons would phase through the walls and reduce you to a pile of inert subatomic particulate before you could scream.
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Put it in better words than I could.NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:40 amPeople don't typically check previous rounds, because logs only reveal so much. It's more whether someone has a reputation, or whether admins notice that someone makes a habit of making mechs too often. Don't overthink it, it's handled by a vibe check, not on some arbitrary tally count.Timonk wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:36 am what does "not every shift" mean in this context? are you gonna get banned if the previous 2 robos spammed mechs? whos gonna check if 5 robos are doing it on a 5 shift rotation, equating to 4 shifts of no mech and 1 of mech spam for them but mech spam every time for everyone else?
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Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 5:11 pm I assume he did it elsewhere because it's fucking goofball and he never half-asses his shitty ideas, he full asses them so both cheeks are absolutely slathered in shit
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if you shitpost in the policy discussions thread, someone will deck you upside the head.
if you shitpost in here, you get a gold star.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
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Re: policynut about mechas for a complimenut
I cannot imagine a single person I work with who, given the ability and choice, would choose to not create a combat mech. Any roboticist that doesn't eventually make a combat mech should be ahelped for poor RP.
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I don't really understand the point of that policy discussion because Bmon should be well aware that there is a ruleset that already handles his complaint and that is the stay in your lane Manuel ruleset. Roboticists can churn out as many combat mechs as they want. Their job is to make robots and mechs. If someone is making a bunch to go hunt antags as a roboticist, they've already broken the rules even if they've done it in only one round. Let them, like every department, keep their dangerous toys as long as its kept in their department. Valid hunting? Admin issue. The mech is just walking around the halls? Sec issue.
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fun fact you were one of the people to first teach me Robotics when i joined and i couldnt agree more
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In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
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Re: policynut about mechas for a complimenut
I'm not sure what I can say here that's different from what I said in the policy thread, to be hon-
Wait, wait. Yup.
What kind of unrobust plastic-tube drinking failed parkour enthusiast gets robusted by a fucking mech?
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What kind of unrobust plastic-tube drinking failed parkour enthusiast gets robusted by a fucking mech?
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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Re: policynut about mechas for a complimenut
Just kill the robos, it’s not that hard
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if antags don't want to deal with mechs there are literally endless amounts of different things they can sabotage to prevent mechs from ever coming into play.
1. Power
2. Robotics itself.
3. The research servers.
4. The orm or ore silo
5. Literally go to any protolathe on the station or the component printer in the circuits room and just take all the matts out and hide them somewhere its dogshit easy to prevent mechs or LITERALLY ANYTHING from being built that way.
1. Power
2. Robotics itself.
3. The research servers.
4. The orm or ore silo
5. Literally go to any protolathe on the station or the component printer in the circuits room and just take all the matts out and hide them somewhere its dogshit easy to prevent mechs or LITERALLY ANYTHING from being built that way.
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this is totally intuition and anecdote but I'm guessing it was either a blob or heretic
Mechs seem to put in outsize work on Manny with blobs, and heretics' kit and armor makes them most vulnerable to shit that can strip their free deflects, leave wounds that matter (albeit irregularly still, I'd have to run the #s on heretic wound/bullet armor,) and ignore anything but the direct damage, a heretic can do (heavily mitigated by a few impact cushions.)
edit: jesus christ lol
50 bullet but, fwiw, no wound
basically every heretic run i see that doesn't end with a lucky stun or maxcap once the heretic is armed up has ended by bleed fwiw
Thank God we haven't given them an EMP yet too. Rusthand, sure, but whatever.datum/armor/cultrobes_eldritch
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bullet = 50
laser = 50
energy = 50
bomb = 35
bio = 20
fire = 20
acid = 20
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flash_protect = FLASH_PROTECTION_WELDER
That's my guess anyway - "somebody who got heretic or blob" because I don't really see anyone having issues w/ how mechs change the dynamic with other antags.
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I'm pretty sure mechs also suffer from things with obj damage multipliars....hulks should theoretically wreck mechs especially since they ignore armor, along with pretty much anything that can break an airlock.
Its not really a question of how powerful mechs are its a question of antags needing to adjust to deal with them and if they do they just wreck the mech...or they can just prevent them or avoid them.
Its not really a question of how powerful mechs are its a question of antags needing to adjust to deal with them and if they do they just wreck the mech...or they can just prevent them or avoid them.
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"making mechas and AI's is like eating candy. when you eat candy too much, you get diabetes. as long as you're not getting a reputation as 'the guy who does nothing but make AI's/mechas fnr' you're taking an acceptable amount of treats."
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RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2023 3:32 am I feel like this falls under the "don't powergame" rule already, well I guess it's more of a "don't do this every round and otherwise you're fine"
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yea i'm a lil confused.
if you validhunt with a mech you are still validhunting.
being in possession of combat mechs and having it parked out front of your house like a family sedan is an IC issue for sec to deal with.
if you validhunt with a mech you are still validhunting.
being in possession of combat mechs and having it parked out front of your house like a family sedan is an IC issue for sec to deal with.
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you fucking cowards posting in peanut. Post in policy!!!!! YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD ABOUT MAKING A POLICYNUT KINNEB
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Its also worth noting that you can now steal combat mechs through hacking. It used to be that there was no way to get rid of a DNA/ID lock, but that isn't true anymore.
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I wish there were more departmentally useful mechs.
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Hacking isnt even a "can" thing.. its extremely easy to hack mechs to take them...EXTREMELY EASY...bypassing dna lock with genetics or ling?? naa just screwdriver and multi tool that bitch.
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Did someone say mechs?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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wow look at the forum mod over hereStriders13 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 5:24 pm you fucking cowards posting in peanut. Post in policy!!!!! YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD ABOUT MAKING A POLICYNUT KINNEB
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He's right. Be chronically online and post in both.Striders13 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 5:24 pm you fucking cowards posting in peanut. Post in policy!!!!! YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD ABOUT MAKING A POLICYNUT KINNEB
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Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 11:08 pmThe Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 pmIt would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
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i only did it to compliment someoneStriders13 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 5:24 pm you fucking cowards posting in peanut. Post in policy!!!!! YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD ABOUT MAKING A POLICYNUT KINNEB
stay mad striders
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They just added a sec mech. It's basically a repurposed Ripley but still.chocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:38 pm I wish there were more departmentally useful mechs.
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add a chef mech that can do mecha-cqc and pizza tower speedrun techschocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:38 pm I wish there were more departmentally useful mechs.
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the ripley mk2 with rcd upgrade can delete reinforced walls, its useful if you want to reshape your department or to tide..
oddy is still a good medical mech although the mech rework unintentionally hard nerfed its ability to use all of its equipment (can only have two instead of all 3)
mining mechs are good for anyone that isnt a miner since for some reason hand held mining equipment is magically limited to a special magic currency only miners get and in no way can someone use cash or materials to print their own?
Mechs with hydraulic clamps can store several crates or lockers FULL of items and transport them
Mime mech is still unobtainable for some reason?
Clown mech is good for nonlethally subduing crowds of people and helping sec in general.
Its not really the mechs themselves that are limited its the equipment you can put on them being so limited. Ripley is kind of a generalist but really that just means force open airlocks and carry stuff and can mine.
oddy is still a good medical mech although the mech rework unintentionally hard nerfed its ability to use all of its equipment (can only have two instead of all 3)
mining mechs are good for anyone that isnt a miner since for some reason hand held mining equipment is magically limited to a special magic currency only miners get and in no way can someone use cash or materials to print their own?
Mechs with hydraulic clamps can store several crates or lockers FULL of items and transport them
Mime mech is still unobtainable for some reason?
Clown mech is good for nonlethally subduing crowds of people and helping sec in general.
Its not really the mechs themselves that are limited its the equipment you can put on them being so limited. Ripley is kind of a generalist but really that just means force open airlocks and carry stuff and can mine.
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Do you mean the weapons? Resonators, drills, and whatever the Dead Space Mining Gun was called are all printable.
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Oh i thought the protokinetic accelerator and upgrades were gated. mb.
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I meant the other mining gun, I don't think you can print the pka (but you CAN print the upgrades)
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When I first added the ability for the hydraulic clamp to open firelocks and airlocks, I intentionally made it only open unpowered doors. I don't know who changed that but it probably should have been a mid/late game upgrade.
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And ive been using hydraulic clamp to tide for YEARS lol....
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hydraulic clamp can open doors?
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