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With regards to event runner, there's a lot of red tape with handing it out due to how admin permissions are set up.
The minimum permission set to run events kinda crosses over with the minimum permission set to arbitrary permission escalation. So our starting point when giving people event runner is to assume they can do anything a full admin can do.
They can also see tickets and asay and all that other stuff.
So event runner is usually only handed out to players that trainers feel could otherwise be trusted with full admin permissions. There's not really much you can do about that without a massive codebase overhaul of what permissions do what - and I suspect all the vital permissions to run events, spawn items etc. could still expose vulnerabilities.
It makes use of the role as a general freebie to hand out very limiting.
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dendydoom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 04, 2023 11:51 am
conrad is a badass
The Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
Drag wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:51 pm
We should do a weighted random headmins vote, let God decide
It would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
Lacran wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:02 pm
If you can't do the time, don't play a mime
kayozz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:04 pm
Don't wanna get beat? Keep your clown shoes on your feet.
kieth4 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:03 pm
I have clapped women with cat ears but I would not clap a cat fr kinda a flarped up connection
yttriums wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am
borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
dendydoom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:02 pm
basically what we learned from this is that i continue to be right about everything
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Timberpoes wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:37 pm
Catposting
To condense and focus this.
Anyone with VV can perms escalate to the moon.
This is not solvable, because we are bad at our jobs. We keep things damped down and prevent call of the void moments but any guarantee is unworkable.
Do not hand out VV to someone you don't trust, or someone you can't keep watch over. Trust is a primary factor in this type of security.
This highlights the issue with player event runners, it requires keeping watch over someone you don't trust enough to make an admin, and by nature only a limited set of users can even do it (we lock down perms editing for the above reason among others).
When we've had prolific runners in the past the admin team grows fatigued and pissy, cause they'd always want to be doing something. That's the problem to solve here (somehow)
Last edited by TheFinalPotato on Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:14 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Thank you based lemon person. That's a good summary.
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i think timber should abuse his modular powers to VV your post back to its original state
Armhulen wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:42 pm
Thank you timonk sometimes you just need a timonk to jolt your CNS
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
I still want to give people the opportunity to event run, and a space for minor events on the discord. Regardless of the issues event running can potentially pose I think it is something people want, and the space on the discord would be a good replacement for the events workshop since it allows for faster pace communication and is more accessible.
It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that I have decided not to run for TGstation head admin this year. There are a number of reasons but chief among them are that I don't play the game, and that also being head admin sounds like an enormous time sink and pain in the ass, and also that nobody knows who I am on account of how I don't play the game. I hope that you all of the people I know were hoping to vote for me can contain your disappointment and are willing to give me another chance in the next term, when I also won't be running.
The Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
Drag wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:51 pm
We should do a weighted random headmins vote, let God decide
It would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
Lacran wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:02 pm
If you can't do the time, don't play a mime
kayozz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:04 pm
Don't wanna get beat? Keep your clown shoes on your feet.
kieth4 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:03 pm
I have clapped women with cat ears but I would not clap a cat fr kinda a flarped up connection
yttriums wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am
borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
dendydoom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:02 pm
basically what we learned from this is that i continue to be right about everything
I really like Tattle but deserted island is tragically enough a good way to describe their platform this year, sheer vibes will get them far on my card but no platform isn't something I personally like.
TheRex9001 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:45 pm
I really like Tattle but deserted island is tragically enough a good way to describe their platform this year, sheer vibes will get them far on my card but no platform isn't something I personally like.
Being real I encourage people to vote mainly on vibes, becuz, your homie might not be able to get their platform done because of the other 2 or something else coming up. Vibes are all you have left for the rest of the term outside of it
Any GM and any admin trainer can make any player into any admin-tier rank they like, and all trainers and GMs have the authority to promote players up to event runner. They don't even have to ask permission, it's just something they can do automatically.
We just don't want to except when we're really in the right mood or we have a player that knows the tools in and out and is proven trustworthy so we don't need to put a lot of effort or focus into overseeing them during the event.
There's little you as headmin can do to influence it. It's really just not fun to do more than once every few years before you remember how much of a pain in the ass it is and go back to volunteering your time in more fun endeavours.
If you don't have any ideas for overcoming that, it's a non-starter of a platform. The limiter isn't one of exposing trainers and GMs to event ideas, or of empowering trainers and GMs to promote player events, or of empowering normal admins to run player event ideas for them.
It's that despite event having ideas AND a team totally unrestricted from trying them AND a team totally unrestricted from promoting players to see if the player can pull them off... It's kinda just not fun to do except in theory textbooks.
If you can come up with a solution to that, now you've piqued my interest.
(For context: The usual solution is to make the player a full admin complete with training.)
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The Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
Drag wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:51 pm
We should do a weighted random headmins vote, let God decide
It would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
Lacran wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:02 pm
If you can't do the time, don't play a mime
kayozz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:04 pm
Don't wanna get beat? Keep your clown shoes on your feet.
kieth4 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:03 pm
I have clapped women with cat ears but I would not clap a cat fr kinda a flarped up connection
yttriums wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am
borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
dendydoom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:02 pm
basically what we learned from this is that i continue to be right about everything
I edited just as you posted that Conrad, but yes - that's basically how it works now.
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Any player that has the potential is likely just pulled onto the admin team since they tick every single box necessary. And they can be running events within a couple of weeks.
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The Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
Drag wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:51 pm
We should do a weighted random headmins vote, let God decide
It would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
Lacran wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:02 pm
If you can't do the time, don't play a mime
kayozz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:04 pm
Don't wanna get beat? Keep your clown shoes on your feet.
kieth4 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:03 pm
I have clapped women with cat ears but I would not clap a cat fr kinda a flarped up connection
yttriums wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am
borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
dendydoom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:02 pm
basically what we learned from this is that i continue to be right about everything
dont know about you guys but im gonna pick the one i am the most biased towards without reading their policies
Armhulen wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:42 pm
Thank you timonk sometimes you just need a timonk to jolt your CNS
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
The Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
Drag wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:51 pm
We should do a weighted random headmins vote, let God decide
It would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
Lacran wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:02 pm
If you can't do the time, don't play a mime
kayozz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:04 pm
Don't wanna get beat? Keep your clown shoes on your feet.
kieth4 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:03 pm
I have clapped women with cat ears but I would not clap a cat fr kinda a flarped up connection
yttriums wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am
borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
dendydoom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:02 pm
basically what we learned from this is that i continue to be right about everything
Timonk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:10 pm
dont know about you guys but im gonna pick the one i am the most biased towards without reading their policies
Sorry man I ain't running.
im gonna write your name on the ballot then
Armhulen wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:42 pm
Thank you timonk sometimes you just need a timonk to jolt your CNS
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
Timonk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:10 pm
dont know about you guys but im gonna pick the one i am the most biased towards without reading their policies
how would a bribe effect your bias
Actually I'm very lonely and I need someone to play lethal company with
Armhulen wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:42 pm
Thank you timonk sometimes you just need a timonk to jolt your CNS
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:01 am
the headmin candidate storylines are heating up and i can enjoy this while being a deadbeat to my child (NTPW) (coming soon)
We have a few more candidates. A massive triple threat between Timber Xemo and Keith, even though only two can win. Tattle is gunning just below while Rex, Tegun and Kinnebian are looking towards a long road ahead to securing the adminvote or the playervote. This election has picked up and although some are clearer than others, everyone has a path to one of the seats unless Dendy does an omega gambit for complete tgstation control
Notes
Not much to go off of so far, theres a lot of ways this can shake up in the coming days
Still low on candidates unfortunately
Only very slightly ordered within tiers, bigger gaps are between tiers
I hope your day is going well (yes, you)
Next tier list after some questions have been answered and hopefully another few names join the running
(Atleast for right now) Placements are relative to one another for the most part
Good luck to all candidates! Make sure to have yourself seen on servers and discord very frequently since those are where the majority of votes are coming from!
Timonk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:10 pm
dont know about you guys but im gonna pick the one i am the most biased towards without reading their policies
how would a bribe effect your bias
Actually I'm very lonely and I need someone to play lethal company with
That said, it's a damn shame bribes are not allowed and there is a decent chance that kinnebian has been/will be bonked for this
Is asking for bribes prohibited?
That said, I would be inclined to play lethal company with any headline candidate that makes his way onto my steam friends list.
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I am joking I will look at platforms and evaluate my votes regardless
Armhulen wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:42 pm
Thank you timonk sometimes you just need a timonk to jolt your CNS
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: ↑
I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ↑
ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.
TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:15 amThe (pre questions) Second Tierlist is done!
We have a few more candidates. A massive triple threat between Timber Xemo and Keith, even though only two can win. Tattle is gunning just below while Rex, Tegun and Kinnebian are looking towards a long road ahead to securing the adminvote or the playervote. This election has picked up and although some are clearer than others, everyone has a path to one of the seats unless Dendy does an omega gambit for complete tgstation control
Notes
Not much to go off of so far, theres a lot of ways this can shake up in the coming days
Still low on candidates unfortunately
Only very slightly ordered within tiers, bigger gaps are between tiers
I hope your day is going well (yes, you)
Next tier list after some questions have been answered and hopefully another few names join the running
(Atleast for right now) Placements are relative to one another for the most part
Good luck to all candidates! Make sure to have yourself seen on servers and discord very frequently since those are where the majority of votes are coming from!
Tattle is super a super nice lady tbh. I'm sure a lot of admins might pivot vote to her just because she is so lovely.
The Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
Drag wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:51 pm
We should do a weighted random headmins vote, let God decide
It would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
Lacran wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:02 pm
If you can't do the time, don't play a mime
kayozz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:04 pm
Don't wanna get beat? Keep your clown shoes on your feet.
kieth4 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:03 pm
I have clapped women with cat ears but I would not clap a cat fr kinda a flarped up connection
yttriums wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am
borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
dendydoom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:02 pm
basically what we learned from this is that i continue to be right about everything
OOC: Rex9001: Remember to vote Rex9001 on the 23rd bros
OOC: Likteer: nah
OOC: Ekaterina von Russland: Probably voting Kieth
OOC: Ekaterina von Russland: Your platform is lame
OOC: Likteer: Kevin4 is wheee it's at
OOC: Livrah: Livrah to headmin
OOC: Radioprague: KIETH 4 THE PEOPLE
OOC: Ekaterina von Russland: Nothing against you personally but lame platform
OOC: DrStankus: kieth running again?
I have a confirmed grand total of 1 merged PR. That basically means I'm a c*der now.
toemas wrote: ↑
ekaterina is really funny because they just consistently say what should be complete common sense (...) and then they get dogpiled by everyone in the thread
kinnebian wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:51 am
i agree with ekaterina but in a less aggressive manner
MooCow12 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:47 am
I endorse everything ekaterina has said so far
sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:03 am
Marina is actually a very high quality roleplayer, believe it or not, and a pretty fun and good-faith player in my experience.
kinnebian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:13 pm
ekaterina stops threads from becoming dogpiles (...) they just point out logical things to bring up in context of a ban and people get mad at them because they refuse to discuss it
when everyone goes into peanuts already set on what their opinion is ekat's posts are a breath of fresh air
might be more true to say they redirect the dogpile most of the time tbqh, like diving heroically onto a grenade
MrStonedOne wrote: ↑
Im gonna have to quote Ekaterina at you because they ended up saying this better than i would have
warbluke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:03 am
Suboptimal research play detected, deploying lethal force.
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:50 am
No deviations allowed. All must know the meta. All must power the game.
BeeSting12 wrote: ↑
Kieth4 nonoptimal ranked play nearly results in team loss, facing disciplinary action
TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:15 amThe (pre questions) Second Tierlist is done!
We have a few more candidates. A massive triple threat between Timber Xemo and Keith, even though only two can win. Tattle is gunning just below while Rex, Tegun and Kinnebian are looking towards a long road ahead to securing the adminvote or the playervote. This election has picked up and although some are clearer than others, everyone has a path to one of the seats unless Dendy does an omega gambit for complete tgstation control
kieth4 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:34 am
Tattle is super a super nice lady tbh. I'm sure a lot of admins might pivot vote to her just because she is so lovely.
Be careful, if my head gets too big I won't be able to fit through doors anymore
AKA tattle
Help improve my neural network by giving me feedback!
The Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
Drag wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:51 pm
We should do a weighted random headmins vote, let God decide
It would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
Lacran wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:02 pm
If you can't do the time, don't play a mime
kayozz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:04 pm
Don't wanna get beat? Keep your clown shoes on your feet.
kieth4 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:03 pm
I have clapped women with cat ears but I would not clap a cat fr kinda a flarped up connection
yttriums wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am
borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
dendydoom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:02 pm
basically what we learned from this is that i continue to be right about everything
The Spessmen Times wrote:Prohibition agent Sam Salamander bragged that he could find a metacord in any server in under 30 minutes. In Bagil it took him 21 minutes. In Sybil 17 minutes, and Manuel just 11 minutes. But Terry set the record of 35 seconds. Sam asked an assistant on the arrivals shuttle where to get a discord invite, and the assistant linked him one.
Drag wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:51 pm
We should do a weighted random headmins vote, let God decide
It would somehow manage to pick Birdshot Station for headmin if we did that
Lacran wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:02 pm
If you can't do the time, don't play a mime
kayozz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:04 pm
Don't wanna get beat? Keep your clown shoes on your feet.
kieth4 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:03 pm
I have clapped women with cat ears but I would not clap a cat fr kinda a flarped up connection
yttriums wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:13 am
borg players shouldn't be able to ahelp. you signed up to play as a piece of equipment. this is like a table ahelping you for wrenching it
dendydoom wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:02 pm
basically what we learned from this is that i continue to be right about everything