ATTENTION TG PLAYERS THIS IS A WARNING!!!! SPIDERS ARE ABOUT TO BE REMOVED!!!!

[Kendrickorium]

DONT THINK I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOURE UP TO CODERS

YOU DID THE SAME SHIT WITH SWARMERS BEFORE YOU REMOVED THEM
YOU SET THE FREQUENCY TO APPEAR WAY HIGHER SO PLAYERS WOULD GET SICK OF EM AND THEN LESS PLAYERS WOULD CRY WHEN YOU REMOVED THEM

I SEE WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH SPIDERS

SCREEN SHOT THIS POST ALL

[san7890]

The other day, someone latejoined as a traitor and asked me to give it to someone else. After doing the removal of the traitor status, I thought that since relatively little was going on the station, that I would let Dynamic pick a midround event. That event it chose? Spiders. I stared at that for the 10 seconds it was on the screen, wondering if I should press (PICK SOMETHING ELSE). I didn't press that button. The event proceeded as normal, and the spiders ended up steamrolling the crew.

sorry

[Shadowflame909]

honestly sometimes the crew deserves an antag that steam rolls over them. And sometimes they deserve an antag they can barely beat back at the inch of their life

Bug spray should do 50 brute to spiders, put it in cleaning bottles/janitors spray gun and it should be a crew steamroll

[Mothblocks]

is this about dynamic 2022 or about the secret underground coder meeting that i snuck you into

[Farquaar]

I like spiders. They're fun, creepy, and give dead players a way to cause havoc. They're like zombies, but with more legs.

[Kendrickorium]

They're like zombies

SHH YOU FOOL

[Farquaar]

They're like zombies

SHH YOU FOOL

Zombie Panic, Zombie Fortress and other many games/mods released over the years prove that the "dead players kill the living players" is dang good fun. It encourages unselfish play by rewarding players who protect their teammates.

[massa]

Spiders good. Just shoot them, they're easy and fun.

[Pandarsenic]

Maybe spiders wouldn't be such a pain if the crew were allowed to have decent weapons

Disclaimer: I haven't had a chance to try thermal pistols on the little fuckers yet, but I doubt it solves the basic problem of ghosts coming back as spiders faster than you can really do shit about them

[Annihilite111]

literally just cool atmos a bit. Should take care of the spiders while the crew sips coffee an laughs

[YBS]

Spiders and zombies are both great and I'm still legitimately tilted that zombies got nerfed into nonexistence.

[datorangebottle]

good, fuck spiders.

[sinfulbliss]

oh my fucking god they're so sneaky and underhanded coders are literally SO EVIL

they're SLOWLY DRAINING ALL AVENUES OF CHAOS OUT THE ROUND, SUCKING IT SHLLLURRRPPPPPP ALL THE CHAOS RIGHT OUT
FIRST ROMEROL THEN PROG TOT THEN SWARMERS NOW SPIDERS

THE CODER OFFENSIVE TO TURN EVERY ROUND INTO 90 MINUTE BAR RP IS IN EFFECT, PANIC

[iwishforducks]

just make spiders set venom in your bloodstream rather than add it to your bloodstream (so you never stack like 30 venom) and spiders would be fine

[InfiniteGalaxies]

I like spiders. Spiders are fun. Please dont remove spiders.


With sad regards,
- InfiniteGalaxies

[Annihilite111]

Spiders and zombies are both great and I'm still legitimately tilted that zombies got nerfed into nonexistence.

The coders dont want you to know this but the alien tools in space are free. You can just take them home! I have 493 Necrotic Revival tech disks in my basement.

[chocolate_bickie]

Spiders are easy to deal with.

Grab a RCD and a space suit.

Wall of the spider infested tunnels, then open a hole into space.

You will be spider free within minutes.

[Tearling]

Spiders are easy to deal with.

Grab a RCD and a space suit.

Wall of the spider infested tunnels, then open a hole into space.

You will be spider free within minutes.

Coders made it so that spiders can create atmos-safe webs to prevent this solution.
OP is right, coders are behind it all, spider removal soon.

[thgvr]

Spiders are easy to deal with.

Grab a RCD and a space suit.

Wall of the spider infested tunnels, then open a hole into space.

You will be spider free within minutes.

Spiders can make structures that block atmos. They inject far too much toxin on every click, two attacks is around 20 brute + 30-40 toxin damage from 10u toxin. Infinite respawns, too. Even ashwalkers had their respawns limited.

Big if true basically

[chocolate_bickie]

Spiders are easy to deal with.

Grab a RCD and a space suit.

Wall of the spider infested tunnels, then open a hole into space.

You will be spider free within minutes.

Coders made it so that spiders can create atmos-safe webs to prevent this solution.
OP is right, coders are behind it all, spider removal soon.

This has convinced me the coder conspiracy is true.

[datorangebottle]

You just gotta vent the right part of their base or break down the wall they put up. Once the air is gone, it's gone, and the spiders can't fix the atmos. It takes way too long for them to spin those wall-webs, too.

[cacogen]

just identify the problems with spiders and nerf them

Spiders can make structures that block atmos. They inject far too much toxin on every click, two attacks is around 20 brute + 30-40 toxin damage from 10u toxin. Infinite respawns, too. Even ashwalkers had their respawns limited.

this is a good start : )

[sinfulbliss]

Spiders are easy to deal with.

Grab a RCD and a space suit.

Wall of the spider infested tunnels, then open a hole into space.

You will be spider free within minutes.

Too much juju, they'll end up escaping while people die from atmos in the tunnels.
Just hunt down the broodmothers and kill them then wipe out their bases of clusters and other spiders with laserguns and riot

[Indie-ana Jones]

I think this is really funny, as someone who made the "recent" changes to spiders in the first place. Remember when spiders literally flooded from every vent and were impossible to get rid of once that happened? Good times.

Anyways, I've been busy, and I wanted to do some stuff to Space Dragon first before I worked on spiders again, but here was some of the changes I wanted to make:
- Spiders can be set on fire
- Spiders take extra damage from bug swatters
- Spiders take stam damage when sprayed with pesticide
- Broodmothers don't lay eggs anymore, they can make a big egg cluster per room which spawns eggs around it passively, but broodmothers can only place the structure if the room is sufficiently webbed
- Spider poison change (make it a hallucinagen instead of a poison?)

As for any sort of coder cabal to get spiders removed, I certainly don't have anything to do with it. I've done a lot of work with midrounds and I'd rather reintroduce our removed/unused midrounds instead of removing them, though I know some coders think differently on the subject. On that matter, if any of you can come up with a fun and distinct version of swarmers, I wouldn't mind re-adding them either.

[TheFinalPotato]

Good work indie, they're off the scent

[CMDR_Gungnir]

I'd be fine with it, Spiders are one of the least enjoyable midrounds and it sucks getting dunked on by something that runs at 3x the speed you do, can three shot you due to poison, and even when you kill it, it'll just respawn faster than you can kill the next one.

Each weakness Spiders get winds up getting something coded in to stop it (like the atmos-blocking webs).

Either rework them into something that doesn't suck, or remove 'em and replace 'em with something else.

[NecromancerAnne]

Maybe spiders wouldn't be such a pain if the crew were allowed to have decent weapons

Disclaimer: I haven't had a chance to try thermal pistols on the little fuckers yet, but I doubt it solves the basic problem of ghosts coming back as spiders faster than you can really do shit about them

They're not very good compared to disablers + laser. They have capacity issues, which is not what you want to have against spiders, and you would be better off with more disablers to keep the spiders slowed down.

[Bawhoppennn]

Sound the alarms gamers, spiders are not long for this server

[cacogen]

if you gave spiders a player-controlled spiderling at the end of each leg that then have to pilot the spider that would be a form of balance

[Indie-ana Jones]

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/66106