amendment 2 peanut

[Chimpston]

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just in: local psychologist gets DEMOLISHED for defending their office from TIDERS after having the GOD GIVEN RIGHT to BEAR ARMS by the HOS. truly fucked up!

one mans trash is another mans treasure!

[toemas]

i hate admins

[Drag]

This situation as a whole is a large mixed bag for me. On one hand on paper, this situation sounds to me like massive over escalation, however, on another, the hos hands the psychologist a gun, and essentially without verbalizing it says "I'm not helping, deal with it." then leaves. There is also the matter of being able to defend your workspace. Breaking into somewhere without attempting to verbalize with the staff is an nrp encounter, which can be met with an nrp response. I don't think it's unbelievable at all to fucking own the dipshits breaking into your workspace and then asking why later, round removal is a possibility in this case.

[Pandarsenic]

Without looking into this any further I say "Fuck tiders, get their asses"

[sinfulbliss]

Holy shit do yourself a favor and read this tider's say logs from roundstart until when he was killed:

Spoiler:

04:50:41 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "hm" (130, 121, 2) Bar
04:50:49 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "fuck" (133, 121, 2) Bar
04:51:04 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "sex" (131, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
04:51:43 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "where the" (130, 120, 2) Bar
04:51:44 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "vest" (130, 120, 2) Bar
04:51:45 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "and" (130, 120, 2) Bar
04:51:46 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "glasses" (130, 120, 2) Bar
04:52:03 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "fuck sex" (130, 119, 2) Service Hallway
04:52:45 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "hehehehaw" (128, 117, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:53:26 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "funni" (127, 118, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:53:27 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "grief" (127, 118, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:53:33 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "yes" (129, 119, 2) Service Hallway
04:53:40 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "OH" (130, 119, 2) Service Hallway
04:53:48 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "ME WHEN" (127, 118, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:54:18 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "FINALLY" (130, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
04:54:22 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "DEEPFRYED" (131, 130, 2) Bar Lounge
04:54:31 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "SEX" (130, 120, 2) Bar
04:54:56 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "CAPTAIN" (99, 145, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:54:59 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "barkeep sucks" (100, 145, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:55:01 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "i need" (100, 145, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:55:02 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "sec" (100, 145, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:55:03 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "gear" (100, 145, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:55:12 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "he doesnt want to" (103, 144, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:55:12 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "spare" (103, 144, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:55:15 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "the gamer loot" (103, 144, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:55:16 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "o" (103, 144, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:55:18 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "bardrobe" (103, 144, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:55:31 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "sex" (110, 160, 2) Fore Primary Hallway
04:55:32 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "run" (110, 159, 2) Fore Primary Hallway
04:55:39 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "me when" (110, 163, 2) Brig
04:55:40 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "i need" (110, 163, 2) Brig
04:55:42 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "glasses" (110, 163, 2) Brig
04:55:44 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "i thinl" (110, 163, 2) Brig
04:55:44 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "rev" (110, 163, 2) Brig
04:55:45 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "bad" (110, 163, 2) Brig
04:56:04 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "rev" (111, 163, 2) Brig
04:56:06 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "probably" (111, 163, 2) Brig
04:56:29 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "ai open" (110, 162, 2) Brig
04:57:22 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "cant find lean pipe on maints" (87, 145, 2) Central Primary Hallway
04:58:24 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "fuck" (67, 100, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
04:58:27 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "no bitches" (67, 100, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
04:59:38 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "lean pipe not found" (68, 107, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
04:59:39 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "pain" (68, 107, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
04:59:53 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "lean" (67, 106, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
04:59:54 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "pipe" (67, 106, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
04:59:55 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "cant" (67, 106, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
04:59:56 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "find it" (67, 106, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
04:59:57 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "pain" (67, 106, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
05:00:27 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "i hear" (68, 108, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
05:00:28 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "bad" (68, 108, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
05:00:32 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "bad" (68, 108, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
05:00:33 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "bad" (68, 108, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
05:01:05 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "yes" (72, 109, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
05:01:08 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "atheist" (72, 109, 2) Aft Port Maintenance
05:02:03 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "sex." (72, 77, 2) Greater Aft Maintenance
05:02:21 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "yes" (72, 77, 2) Greater Aft Maintenance
05:02:23 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "toomfolery" (72, 77, 2) Greater Aft Maintenance
05:02:36 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "lets" (73, 77, 2) Greater Aft Maintenance
05:02:37 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "d" (74, 77, 2) Abandoned Medbay
05:03:04 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "vodka" (76, 77, 2) Abandoned Medbay
05:03:09 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "pill" (76, 77, 2) Abandoned Medbay
05:03:27 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "so" (76, 77, 2) Abandoned Medbay
05:03:32 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "hm..." (76, 77, 2) Abandoned Medbay
05:03:42 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "brain" (80, 79, 2) Abandoned Medbay
05:03:43 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "brain" (80, 79, 2) Abandoned Medbay
05:03:47 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "brain moment" (80, 79, 2) Abandoned Medbay
05:03:56 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "brain" (80, 79, 2) Abandoned Medbay
05:03:57 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "momento" (80, 79, 2) Abandoned Medbay
05:04:06 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "we" (81, 79, 2) Abandoned Medbay
05:04:07 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "tide" (81, 79, 2) Abandoned Medbay
05:04:24 SAY We are the champions/(Nicholas Wise) "yes"

Then randomly welding into a psychologist's office while saying "we tide" with their fellow assistant shitter. Was psych's only option really just letting them break in and loot their office while they run off to beg sec to help? People should have the right to defend their departments and if they don't have nonlethals they should be able to use lethals. Getting taken out the round for 3-5 mins to be revived honestly seems like a pretty fair consequence to randomly trying to weld into someone's private office.

Psych should be unbanned and then the tider should be banned for underaged, rule 12 and banbaiting.

[Bawhoppennn]

this was an emergent situation, absolutely nobody deserved to be banned, especially not the psych

[celularLAmp]

This situation as a whole is a large mixed bag for me. On one hand on paper, this situation sounds to me like massive over escalation, however, on another, the hos hands the psychologist a gun, and essentially without verbalizing it says "I'm not helping, deal with it." then leaves. There is also the matter of being able to defend your workspace. Breaking into somewhere without attempting to verbalize with the staff is an nrp encounter, which can be met with an nrp response. I don't think it's unbelievable at all to fucking own the dipshits breaking into your workspace and then asking why later, round removal is a possibility in this case.

[2022-06-18 17:04:19.273] SAY: Account name contains reserved/(Nowell Petrov) "im not legally allowed to witness" (Psychology Office (83,78,2))
[2022-06-18 17:04:21.680] SAY: Account name contains reserved/(Nowell Petrov) "what happens next" (Psychology Office (83,78,2))
[2022-06-18 17:04:22.745] EMOTE: Account name contains reserved/(Nowell Petrov) points at Psychology (Psychology Office (84,78,2))

also they weren't round removed I took them immed to medbay and they were being revived while I was talking to admin lol

[Drag]

This situation as a whole is a large mixed bag for me. On one hand on paper, this situation sounds to me like massive over escalation, however, on another, the hos hands the psychologist a gun, and essentially without verbalizing it says "I'm not helping, deal with it." then leaves. There is also the matter of being able to defend your workspace. Breaking into somewhere without attempting to verbalize with the staff is an nrp encounter, which can be met with an nrp response. I don't think it's unbelievable at all to fucking own the dipshits breaking into your workspace and then asking why later, round removal is a possibility in this case.

[2022-06-18 17:04:19.273] SAY: Account name contains reserved/(Nowell Petrov) "im not legally allowed to witness" (Psychology Office (83,78,2))
[2022-06-18 17:04:21.680] SAY: Account name contains reserved/(Nowell Petrov) "what happens next" (Psychology Office (83,78,2))
[2022-06-18 17:04:22.745] EMOTE: Account name contains reserved/(Nowell Petrov) points at Psychology (Psychology Office (84,78,2))

also they weren't round removed I took them immed to medbay and they were being revived while I was talking to admin lol

I was talking about you being potentially being round removed, my point was you had no idea what to expect from what they were going to do after they broke in

[Boot]

There is nothing of great value in the psychology office, and absolutely no reason to use lethal force as a first resort in removing trespassers

What the fuck does this even mean? Does it matter if there "is nothing of great value?" If greys are breaking down your door and you are telling them to fuck off then they have absolutely forfeited their lives.

edit:

>Break into someone's department
>Keep it up after he tells you to stop
>get rightfully killed while screaming "PLEASE HELP THIS GUY KILLING ME IS VALID"

Ban this fucker right now

[iwishforducks]

if you tide into someone's office you should expect nothing more than death

[celularLAmp]

snip

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I was talking about you being potentially being round removed, my point was you had no idea what to expect from what they were going to do after they broke in

ioh yeahg
sorry i have no reading comprehension.

[toemas]

>you should have attempted to resolve the issue through less extreme means before killing them.

lamp literally did try to do exactly this, did he just not read the appeal or something? what an absolute knuckledragging mouthbreathing retard

[BONERMASTER]

Even the best defense is of no use, when the person who is judge, jury and executioner all in one, doesn't even fucking read it.
Sorry that I couldn't box you out of this, two days is a very short timeframe for headadmins to intervene, looks like you just got fucked for nothing, and the admin gets away with it.

Make sure to leave a post in their feedback thread -> viewtopic.php?f=37&t=5578, if you want to move for an admin complaint following the headmin intervention, just let me know, we'll give it a shot.


With non-responsive regards
-BONERMASTER

[massa]

if you tide into someone's office you should expect nothing more than death

fuck you bro i need wires

[Boot]

Lets get Thunder in here to tell us what rooms give a "critical function" to the station? What parts of the station does he think someone can just tide their way into even after being told to stop then get the guy who showed us the door banned?

[celularLAmp]

i made this politlca comic

[NoxVS]

sounds like the tiders fucked around and found out

[trexter555]

you know you fucked up when other admins are shitting on you, sadly this will result in thunder waiting two days until the ban is over and saying "yeah sorry i remove ban"

[Sylphet]

you know you fucked up when other admins are shitting on you

Admins disagree on things way more than you would think.

[BONERMASTER]

If they had backed off and the assistants kept coming after them, or they had fired once and the assistants didn't back down, it would be much more reasonable to light them up.

This reminds me of all the gut-wrenching tickets I had while playing as security in this game, not just on this server. All these lofty arguments that don't care about the context, the situation or even the people involved, twisted entirely just to nab you with a bogus ban. And no matter how much you talk your ass off, no matter how justified you are, it does not matter, you're getting that ban.

Awful. Thanks for that trip to memory-lane, Thunder!


With tripping regards
-BONERMASTER

[Rageguy505]

Why would assistants break into the psych office if it wasn't to kill the psychologist

[Timonk]

theres 2 things i dont understand about this

- why would anyone protect nowell petrov
- why was the other guy not able to type more than 3 words

[technokek]

how is this not banbaiting?

[Timberpoes]

The spiciest part is yet to come.

[technokek]

The spiciest part is yet to come.

are you actually gonna punish the shitters that ahelped?

[Mothblocks]

yeah

[BONERMASTER]

The spiciest part is yet to come.

are you actually gonna punish the shitters that ahelped?

we have decided to place a 2 week ban for what appears to be lying to an admin with the attempt to ban bait, and invite them to appeal if there is reason to believe they were not lying.

BASED?????


With surprised regards
-BONERMASTER


P.S. let me know when you finish your transformation to the next SSJ level, you beautiful bastard, hahahaha!

[Timonk]

I got excited for a second thinking about the fact that Nowell might have been banned

[Boot]

you love to see it.

[Chimpston]

I got excited for a second thinking about the fact that Nowell might have been banned

obsessed + zero reading comprehension whatsoever lmao lol lmao lo

[Timonk]

I got excited for a second thinking about the fact that Nowell might have been banned

obsessed + zero reading comprehension whatsoever lmao lol lmao lo

I guess he might be living rent free in my head as a shitter who once again toed the line of tiding for no reason then getting clapped (and possibly whining about it?)

[Super Aggro Crag]

there's drugs in the psych office those are valuble

[Turbonerd]

I think my only interaction with Nicholas was him constantly shoving me in the hallways for no reason. He won't be missed.

Anyways even if the departmental escalation rule didn't exist, they were being shitting griefers that deserved their death anyways, and shotgunning them with supermatter pellets would be perfectly okay.

[CMDR_Gungnir]

This situation as a whole is a large mixed bag for me. On one hand on paper, this situation sounds to me like massive over escalation, however, on another, the hos hands the psychologist a gun, and essentially without verbalizing it says "I'm not helping, deal with it." then leaves. There is also the matter of being able to defend your workspace. Breaking into somewhere without attempting to verbalize with the staff is an nrp encounter, which can be met with an nrp response. I don't think it's unbelievable at all to fucking own the dipshits breaking into your workspace and then asking why later, round removal is a possibility in this case.

Personally, Tiders deserve whatever they have coming to them. I think this really can be summed up quite beautifully by "fuck around and find out"

[Imitates-The-Lizards]

Justice fucking served. Based headmemes not only lifted ban but banned banbaiting tider. Re-elect Mothblocks 2023

[Bawhoppennn]

All I know from this thread is that Bonermaster is an absolute net-positive for tgstation

[NoxVS]

All I know from this thread that Bonermaster is an absolute net-positive for tgstation

I'm still waiting for an opportunity to get them to handle one of my appeals

[iamgoofball]

Based headmins, thunder knocked down to trialmin when?

[BONERMASTER]

All I know from this thread that Bonermaster is an absolute net-positive for tgstation

Thanks Bawhoppenn, loyal fans of BONERMASTER & Associates get 99% off on their next appeal!

I'm still waiting for an opportunity to get them to handle one of my appeals

Looking forward to it myself! See you in court!!
(And don't be mad when the overwhelming MOUNTAIN of evidence will make you say the words "not guilty"!)


With jousting regards
-BONERMASTER



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[iamgoofball]

but also for reals this ban shouldn't of happened in the first place, what the hell is thunder, a seasoned vet of the admin tools, doing pulling this shit?

[NoxVS]

All I know from this thread that Bonermaster is an absolute net-positive for tgstation

Thanks Bawhoppenn, loyal fans of BONERMASTER & Associates get 99% off on their next appeal!

I'm still waiting for an opportunity to get them to handle one of my appeals

Looking forward to it myself! See you in court!!
(And don't be mad when the overwhelming MOUNTAIN of evidence will make you say the words "not guilty"!)


With jousting regards
-BONERMASTER



(DISCLAIMER: ANY AND ALL REFERENCES TO THE LAW ARE MADE FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY!
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You misunderstand, I want you to represent me when one of my bans I apply gets appealed

[dirk_mcblade]

Psychologist lives are forfeit

[BONERMASTER]

You misunderstand, I want you to represent me when one of my bans I apply gets appealed

Understandable! BONERMASTER & Associates however are morally obligated to fight against big administration and right the wrongs of the justice system!

You can however reduce the chance of an overturned appeal, by visitng one of our upcoming starter courses on "how to apply justice fairly and respectably", specificially tailored for admins that are interested in improving their judgement and the community around them, for the EXCLUSIVE, limited time offer of only 100 Antag Tokens (per course).

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With fair regards
-BONERMASTER & Associates



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[Super Aggro Crag]

but also for reals this ban shouldn't of happened in the first place, what the hell is thunder, a seasoned vet of the admin tools, doing pulling this shit?

an error only becomes a mistake when you refuse to correct it

[iwishforducks]

but also for reals this ban shouldn't of happened in the first place, what the hell is thunder, a seasoned vet of the admin tools, doing pulling this shit?

an error only becomes a mistake when you refuse to correct it

wouldn't it be "a mistake only becomes an error when you refuse to correct it?"

[Super Aggro Crag]

but also for reals this ban shouldn't of happened in the first place, what the hell is thunder, a seasoned vet of the admin tools, doing pulling this shit?

an error only becomes a mistake when you refuse to correct it

wouldn't it be "a mistake only becomes an error when you refuse to correct it?"

no

[iwishforducks]

but also for reals this ban shouldn't of happened in the first place, what the hell is thunder, a seasoned vet of the admin tools, doing pulling this shit?

an error only becomes a mistake when you refuse to correct it

wouldn't it be "a mistake only becomes an error when you refuse to correct it?"

no

ok

[Not-Dorsidarf]

Not entirely sure how this happened, succumbs are clearly displayed in the admin log tools, guess its just an oversight that got corrected

[Mothblocks]

I bet I know what happened. The person who sent the ahelp appears to not have succumbed, it was the person they first shot that did.

[iamgoofball]

yeah but they would have seen the succumb when checking the logs on the guy who got killed to determine who started the fight, because they cited the guy's death specifically in their ahelp