Captain Shoves Boot Up Uranus

[Archie700]

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Plasmamemea are a pain

[Timonk]

He's a ethereal

[Timonk]

And a cunt that's what he is

[Archie700]

He's a ethereal

same, you just gotta double tap

[Turbonerd]

This garbage appeal should extend his ban length. He is showing no signs of remorse over his shitty griefing, and it's clear he doesn't understand that what he did was wrong.

[Shellton(Mario)]

Should he be banned? Yes. But the admins should look into the relationship between the 2 players cuz otherwise this will just create more issues in the future.

[Pandarsenic]

I'mma be real here, if you think someone is metagrudging you

"Grief the whole station enough that it would be valid for ANY vigilante to clap you, then attack them as captain" is the least effective possible way to make this case

[Archie700]

I think it's less metagrudging and more "eventually, everyone knows what you are"

[Super Aggro Crag]

what a maroon

[TheSmallBlue]

- Guy mugs people on Terry, a LRP server, with a decently valid reason and doesn't go further than that, doesn't harm a fly, even returns the money in some instances
- Ends up permabrigged. Conflict over, correctly escalated when you consider that he mentions he did more than just mugging. Id say they aren't valid anymore, they got their reckoning.
- Perma has no air, guy begins dying. Oh well what can you do, it's not anyone's fault. Hell I'd say even this is valid.
- Captain STROLLS IN, goes about talking shit to their dying face, CLEARLY metagrudging, ruins their plan of escaping through the breach.
- Guy tries to defend himself from the obvious violence that's about to ensue, fails because he never had a chance, dies, a helps the metagrudge.
- Admin comes in, ignores the obvious metagrudge completely, bans guy for 7 days, lets captain go without even a hit in the wrist.

Am I missing something? I don't think Guy here did anything wrong per se, it's a LRP server and he did something that in the grand scheme of things isn't that harmful to either the crew or the shift, he was valid and he validly got arrested and validly got left to die, then the obviously metagrudging captain brings up his metagrudge which guy clearly sees as a threat to his continued life and defends himself. Only reason why it was OK for the captain to kill guy, according to the admin, was because he was valid for mugging people, which I'd argue guy got what he deserved for doing that, and because it was OK for the captain to kill guy because guy shoved him, which he only did because of the clear metagrudge the guy holds against him, at which point I don't think the reason becomes valid.

I get guy has an history, but I don't think this ban is deserved at all, and I think Lulufren is kiiinda being a dick about it.
iunno I only play mrp

[Archie700]

I don't think shittalking a player for past rounds is a threat to kill the person.

[saprasam]

feels weird how they start gloating about their death despite never dealing with them in person but whatever

[CMDR_Gungnir]

I don't think shittalking a player for past rounds is a threat to kill the person.

It does indicate that they are probably not there to help you. Especially if it's true about the whole gloating about his death, thing.

If the place is breached and you're dying, and someone shows up to gloat, do you think they're going to let you escape the breach? Probably not.

[TheSmallBlue]

Right, wanted to clear this up in an actually readable way, so here are the game logs and the attack logs, in order. If we're gonna peanut, we're gonna peanut in style.

As far as I can tell confrontation starts when Uranus was being placed into perma. Before this, Morozov was somewhere entirely different.

[2022-10-04 15:47:10.816] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "where is uranus" (Brig (200,141,2))
[2022-10-04 15:47:56.087] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "where is uranus" (Transfer Centre (209,159,2))
[2022-10-04 15:47:58.246] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) "shut up" (Prison Wing (207,171,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:05.306] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) "you were" (Prison Wing (208,171,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:06.516] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) "orbiting me" (Prison Wing (208,171,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:07.766] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "oh wow" (Prison Wing Cells (203,170,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:08.933] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) "and got so mad" (Prison Wing (208,171,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:09.450] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "lucky you" (Prison Wing Cells (203,170,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:11.598] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "guh" (Prison Wing Cells (204,170,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:12.141] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) "that you crushed a human" (Prison Wing (208,171,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:13.568] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) "in shutters" (Prison Wing (208,171,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:19.680] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "looks likd" (Prison Wing (208,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:21.721] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "beating someone" (Prison Wing (209,173,2))

[2022-10-04 15:48:21.274] ATTACK: [table] shoved Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) with onto the table (table) (NEWHP: 88.7) (Prison Wing (209,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:22.409] ATTACK: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) kicks Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 88.7) (Prison Wing (208,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:22.410] ATTACK: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) shoved Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) (NEWHP: 88.7) (Prison Wing (208,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:23.787] ATTACK: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) grabbed Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) passive grab (NEWHP: 88.7) (Prison Wing (209,174,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:24.925] ATTACK: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) grabbed Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) aggressive grab (NEWHP: 88.7) (Prison Garden (208,175,2))

[2022-10-04 15:48:26.458] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "ok" (Prison Garden (209,175,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:26.846] EMOTE: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) gasps! (Prison Wing (209,174,2))

[2022-10-04 15:48:33.997] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) kicked Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (NEWHP: -11.6) (Prison Wing (208,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:34.810] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) kicked Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (NEWHP: -21) (Prison Wing (208,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:35.716] ATTACK: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) suffered: Joint Dislocation | Damage: 16.5 (rolled 23/50.6381) (Prison Wing (208,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:35.718] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) kicked Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (NEWHP: -38.2) (Prison Wing (207,172,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:37.174] ATTACK: [table] shoved Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) with onto the table (table) (NEWHP: -38.2) (Prison Wing (209,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:38.160] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) kicked Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (NEWHP: -59.5) (Prison Wing (208,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:38.161] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) got a stun punch with their previous punch Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (NEWHP: -59.5) (Prison Wing (208,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:39.191] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) kicked Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (NEWHP: -66.4) (Prison Wing (208,174,2))

[2022-10-04 15:48:40.958] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) kicks Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: -66.4) (Prison Wing (208,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:40.959] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) shoved Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (NEWHP: -66.4) (Prison Wing (208,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:42.177] ATTACK: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) suffered: Joint Dislocation | Damage: 14.41 (rolled 35/41.8919) (Prison Wing (210,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:42.179] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) kicked Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (NEWHP: -81.5) (Prison Wing (211,174,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:43.000] ATTACK: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) suffered: Joint Dislocation | Damage: 12.43 (rolled 21/34.0612) (Prison Wing (210,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:43.002] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) kicked Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (NEWHP: -93.9) (Prison Wing (211,173,2))

[2022-10-04 15:48:43.912] EMOTE: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) seizes up and falls limp, their eyes dead and lifeless... (Prison Wing (210,173,2))

[2022-10-04 15:48:43.916] ATTACK: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) has died (BRUTE: 104.93, BURN: 92.76, TOX: 0, OXY: 15.3333, CLONE: 0) (Prison Wing (210,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:43.918] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) kicked Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (NEWHP: -102.8) (Prison Wing (211,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:44.931] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) kicked Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (NEWHP: -109.8) (Prison Wing (211,173,2))

[2022-10-04 15:48:46.487] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "wat happened" (Prison Wing (210,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:47.362] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "OH IT WAS" (Prison Wing (210,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:48.283] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "OPENED UP" (Prison Wing (210,173,2))

[2022-10-04 15:48:49.739] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "yeah" (Prison Wing (211,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:50.291] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "dead" (Prison Wing (211,173,2))

[2022-10-04 15:48:51.376] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "AND THAT KILLDE ME" (Prison Wing (210,173,2))

[2022-10-04 15:48:58.376] GAME: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) started fireman carrying Uranus XDE (as Prisoner #13-004). (Prison Wing (211,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:48:58.376] GAME: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) was fireman carried by Sergeyivich Morozov. (Prison Wing (210,173,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:11.786] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "guh here really tried to robust me in the prison cell" (Brig (200,151,2))

[2022-10-04 15:49:14.965] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "this is the captain" (Brig (200,151,2))

[2022-10-04 15:49:17.160] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "hes dead" (Brig (200,147,2))

[2022-10-04 15:49:17.468] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "that metagrudges me" (Brig (200,147,2))

[2022-10-04 15:49:19.368] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "oh" (Brig (200,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:21.006] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "space?" (Brig (200,147,2))

[2022-10-04 15:49:23.290] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "he for sure took me out of perma" (Brig (200,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:24.256] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "to kill me" (Brig (200,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:25.522] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "100%" (Brig (200,147,2))

[2022-10-04 15:49:25.877] GAME: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) is no longer being ridden by Uranus XDE (as Prisoner #13-004). (Brig (200,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:25.877] GAME: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) is no longer riding Sergeyivich Morozov. (Brig (200,147,2))

[2022-10-04 15:49:30.389] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "i would bet money on it" (Brig (200,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:35.650] GAME: *no key*/(Uranus XDE) *no key*/(Uranus XDE) is no longer owning mob Uranus XDE (as Prisoner #13-004)(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Brig (200,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:35.650] ACCESS: Mob Login: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer
[2022-10-04 15:49:35.667] GAME: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) Client Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) has taken ownership of mob Uranus XDE(/mob/dead/observer) (Brig (200,147,2))

[2022-10-04 15:49:36.225] ATTACK: *no key*/(Uranus XDE) suffered: Open Laceration to chest | Damage: 20.68 (rolled 36/69.4658) | WB: 10 (Brig (200,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:36.226] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with officer's sabre (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -130.5) (Brig (201,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:36.998] ATTACK: Lokep/(Canelo Gonzalez) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with stun baton (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -143) (Brig (200,148,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:37.059] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with officer's sabre (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -163.7) (Brig (201,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:37.925] ATTACK: Lokep/(Canelo Gonzalez) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with stun baton (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -173.1) (Brig (200,148,2))

[2022-10-04 15:49:38.640] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "yea" (Brig (201,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:39.157] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "see" (Brig (201,147,2))

[2022-10-04 15:49:45.590] ATTACK: *no key*/(Uranus XDE) suffered: Open Laceration to chest | Damage: 20.68 (rolled 9/69.4658) | WB: 10 | BWB: 25 (Brig (200,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:45.591] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with officer's sabre (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -201.7) (Brig (201,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:46.618] ATTACK: *no key*/(Uranus XDE) suffered: Weeping Avulsion to chest | Damage: 20.68 (rolled 38/69.4658) | WB: 10 | BWB: 25 (Brig (200,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:46.619] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with officer's sabre (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -201.7) (Brig (201,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:47.429] ATTACK: *no key*/(Uranus XDE) suffered: Compound Fracture to chest | Damage: 12.408 (rolled 22/33.9768) | WB: 10 | BWB: 25 (Brig (200,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:47.431] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with officer's sabre (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -201.7) (Brig (201,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:48.262] ATTACK: *no key*/(Uranus XDE) suffered: Dismemberment Wound to chest (Brig (200,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:48.264] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with officer's sabre (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -201.7) (Brig (201,147,2))

[2022-10-04 15:49:51.467] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "this captain" (Brig (201,145,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:53.502] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "plays" (Brig (201,145,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:54.457] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "head roles" (Brig (201,145,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:55.813] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "every round" (Brig (201,145,2))
[2022-10-04 15:49:59.744] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "and follows me looking for excuses to kill me" (Brig (201,145,2))
[2022-10-04 15:50:06.604] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "and he just gets owned" (Brig (201,145,2))
[2022-10-04 15:50:11.603] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "every single shift" (Brig (201,145,2))

[2022-10-04 15:50:12.451] GAME: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) started fireman carrying Uranus XDE (as Prisoner #13-004). (Brig (200,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:50:12.451] GAME: *no key*/(Uranus XDE) was fireman carried by Sergeyivich Morozov. (Brig (200,147,2))
[2022-10-04 15:50:53.667] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "we got the pig!!" (Brig (201,126,2))
[2022-10-04 15:50:58.850] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "he uh" (Brig (200,126,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:00.739] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "tried to robust me" (Brig (200,126,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:03.516] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "as soon as I walked in jail" (Brig (200,126,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:04.498] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "so I uh" (Brig (200,126,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:06.656] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "beat him with my hands" (Brig (200,126,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:07.644] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "then I" (Brig (200,126,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:08.968] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "walk him" (Brig (200,126,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:09.701] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "out" (Brig (200,126,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:11.056] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "on my back" (Brig (200,126,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:11.578] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "uh" (Brig (200,126,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:12.082] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "dead" (Brig (200,126,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:15.200] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "and uh" (Brig (200,128,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:17.071] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "im spacing him now" (Brig (200,128,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:19.951] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "because my sexy officer here" (Brig (200,128,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:22.638] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "is certain this guy" (Brig (200,128,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:24.280] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "is a sussy man" (Brig (200,128,2))

[2022-10-04 15:51:30.843] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "man" (Armory (209,131,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:32.257] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "this captain" (Security Locker Room (209,124,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:33.701] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "earleir today" (Security Locker Room (209,124,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:34.951] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "ahelped me" (Security Locker Room (209,124,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:36.575] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "for noogieing him" (Security Locker Room (209,124,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:38.272] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "and now he's about to" (Security Locker Room (209,124,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:40.357] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "take me out of permabrig" (Security Locker Room (209,124,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:42.163] SAY: Ricardomilos/(Uranus XDE) (DEAD) "just to kill and space me" (Security Locker Room (209,124,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:44.729] GAME: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) is no longer being ridden by Uranus XDE (as Prisoner #13-004). (Armory (209,132,2))
[2022-10-04 15:51:44.729] GAME: *no key*/(Uranus XDE) is no longer riding Sergeyivich Morozov. (Armory (209,132,2))

[2022-10-04 15:52:20.905] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "SHOULD I JUST" (Armory (208,129,2))
[2022-10-04 15:52:22.238] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "LET URANUS" (Armory (208,129,2))
[2022-10-04 15:52:23.733] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "DECOMPOSE" (Armory (209,129,2))
[2022-10-04 15:52:25.518] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "IN A LOCKER" (Armory (209,129,2))
[2022-10-04 15:52:35.046] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "I HAVE AN IDEA" (Armory (209,129,2))
[2022-10-04 15:52:36.030] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "LETS GET" (Armory (209,129,2))
[2022-10-04 15:52:37.871] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "HIS ACCOMPLICE" (Armory (209,129,2))
[2022-10-04 15:52:39.023] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "TO COME HERE" (Armory (209,129,2))
[2022-10-04 15:52:39.544] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "AND" (Armory (209,129,2))
[2022-10-04 15:52:40.685] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "TAKE HIS" (Armory (209,129,2))
[2022-10-04 15:52:42.132] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "SEVERED HEAD" (Armory (209,129,2))

[2022-10-04 15:52:58.711] ATTACK: *no key*/(Uranus XDE) suffered: Weeping Avulsion to chest | Damage: 20.68 (rolled 27/69.4658) | WB: 10 | BWB: 25 (Brig (200,133,2))
[2022-10-04 15:52:58.713] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with officer's sabre (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -201.7) (Brig (200,134,2))
[2022-10-04 15:52:59.606] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with officer's sabre (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -201.7) (Brig (200,134,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:07.304] ATTACK: *no key*/(Uranus XDE) suffered: Open Laceration to head | Damage: 18.8 (rolled 27/60.7884) | WB: 10 | BWB: 25 (Brig (200,134,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:07.306] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with officer's sabre (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -220.5) (Brig (200,135,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:08.244] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with officer's sabre (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -239.3) (Brig (200,135,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:09.948] ATTACK: *no key*/(Uranus XDE) suffered: Weeping Avulsion to head | Damage: 18.8 (rolled 37/60.7884) | WB: 10 | BWB: 25 (Brig (200,134,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:09.949] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with officer's sabre (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -276.9) (Brig (200,135,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:09.027] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with officer's sabre (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -258.1) (Brig (200,135,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:10.917] ATTACK: *no key*/(Uranus XDE) suffered: Hairline Fracture to head | Damage: 11.28 (rolled 22/29.7326) | WB: 10 | BWB: 25 (Brig (200,134,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:10.918] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with officer's sabre (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -295.7) (Brig (200,135,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:11.913] ATTACK: *no key*/(Uranus XDE) suffered: Dismemberment Wound to head (Brig (200,134,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:11.925] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked *no key*/(Uranus XDE) with officer's sabre (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -295.7) (Brig (200,135,2))

[2022-10-04 15:53:15.655] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "I UH" (Brig (200,135,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:18.569] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "EXCECUTED HIM IN THE CELL" (Brig (200,135,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:20.043] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "WITH MY FISTS" (Brig (200,135,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:22.033] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "AFTER HE ATTACKED ME" (Brig (200,135,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:27.552] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "he was choking me" (Brig (200,135,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:29.524] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "but made the mistake" (Brig (201,135,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:32.725] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "of doing it between a slider door" (Brig (201,135,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:34.764] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "so when the door closed" (Brig (201,135,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:37.757] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "I was no longer choked" (Brig (201,135,2))
[2022-10-04 15:53:41.341] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "robusted bya a door" (Brig (200,135,2))

[2022-10-04 15:55:50.572] ATTACK: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) attacked [firelock] with Uranus XDE's head (Transfer Centre (199,159,2))

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I guess that Uranus read "looks like beating someone" as a threat and immediately began shoving? I heavily doubt it... Maybe "looks like beating someone" is something that uranus said a previous round, when he previously "owned him".
I don't really see any metagrudge, captain did a reference to a previous round which would be ick ock but this is lrp so meh, if captain started the conflict, fine, but clearly he didn't.
What he does with Uranus's body after is his business, at no point does he mention previous rounds, in fact it seems he only wants to space the body only because Uranus tried to robust him, which is kind of funny because before the whole altercation he said this when someone was asking them not to space their dead body.

[2022-10-04 15:45:50.467] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "round removing" (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (124,207,2))
[2022-10-04 15:45:52.305] SAY: Medeelel18/(Sergeyivich Morozov) "is fucking lame" (Arrival Shuttle Hallway (124,207,2))

So yeah I take it back, Uranus is in the wrong here if anything HE has a metagrudge, not the captain. Considering that and the history that the admin mentions then the ban is 100% deserved. Don't think it has anything to do with the muggings at all though.

[Archie700]

It also seems he noticed the air was running out only after he died, never making any mention of it beforehand.

[CMDR_Gungnir]

And through the godly technique of using legalese "if (X) is true" bullshit, I remain correct despite this new information.

[Nabski]

I could have sworn Uranus XD was specifically called out as a "Do not name yourself this" in the naming guide for that species.

[Timberpoes]

I could have sworn Uranus XD was specifically called out as a "Do not name yourself this" in the naming guide for that species.

I killed Uranus XD code-side.

I got one too many ahelps from players complaining the chat filter blocked them from saying their name (because the XD is filtered) - I updated it so names would be rejected unless they were filter compliant.

So Uranus XDE was born. Totally different name.

[Super Aggro Crag]

I could have sworn Uranus XD was specifically called out as a "Do not name yourself this" in the naming guide for that species.

I killed Uranus XD code-side.

I got one too many ahelps from players complaining the chat filter blocked them from saying their name (because the XD is filtered) - I updated it so names would be rejected unless they were filter compliant.

So Uranus XDE was born. Totally different name.

you're the motherless goat boy who prevents me from playing Betelgeuse XD? I hope you pee your pants