DWARF FORTRESS or HOW I KILLED THE ELVEN BARD'S ELDEST SON EDITION PLAYERS CLUB THREAD

[Kendrickorium]

let's talk about dwarf fortress nerds

who's playing since the steam release?

[Indie-ana Jones]

I want to play it, but thirty dollars is a steep asking price in my opinion. Might wait for it to go on sale. That being said, I've had a great experience with the game in the past, so I might reconsider.

[Farquaar]

I don't have time right now but I do wonder: is the Steam version as easily modded as the standard version (i.e. edit a text file)? Will mods like Masterwork be compatible? If not, I might just save my money.

[datorangebottle]

I don't have time right now but I do wonder: is the Steam version as easily modded as the standard version (i.e. edit a text file)?

The first thing I did after downloading the game was remove aquifers. Took like thirty seconds and it was the same method as the free version, so.

[Itseasytosee2me]

Light aquifers are actually pretty manageable nowadays. You can do some cool stuff with them, but the amount of utility over a river or cavern pond is arguable.

[blackdav123]

My first mayor was digging in a long mineshaft and I discovered lava for the first time. He swiftly walled it up so that the lava would not reach the stairway. Unfortunately, he had walled himself in on the wrong side and quickly turned himself into molten meat.

[Super Aggro Crag]

no adventure mode?

[Kendrickorium]

I don't have time right now but I do wonder: is the Steam version as easily modded as the standard version (i.e. edit a text file)? Will mods like Masterwork be compatible? If not, I might just save my money.

all the ini files can still be edited, and mods from the workshop are coming out already

[Kendrickorium]

no adventure mode?

not yet, its on the todo list though

[Kendrickorium]

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I don't have time right now but I do wonder: is the Steam version as easily modded as the standard version (i.e. edit a text file)?

The first thing I did after downloading the game was remove aquifers. Took like thirty seconds and it was the same method as the free version, so.

beautiful.

i built a wall around the depo to get them to starve to death but i forgot those fucks can just climb over

[Farquaar]

The first thing I did after downloading the game was remove aquifers. Took like thirty seconds and it was the same method as the free version, so.

Cool
Also
>He removes aquifers
>He draws water from the river like an elf

[datorangebottle]

>He removes aquifers
>He draws water from the river like an elf

Listen. If it's being used to drown the elves, it's being drawn for a valid reason. At least i'm using dwarven mechanisms as opposed to BUCKETS.

[Kendrickorium]

The first thing I did after downloading the game was remove aquifers. Took like thirty seconds and it was the same method as the free version, so.

Cool
Also
>He removes aquifers
>He draws water from the river like an elf

theres nothing wrong with removing aquifers, toady goes for realism much more than player convenience

[Kendrickorium]

>He removes aquifers
>He draws water from the river like an elf

Listen. If it's being used to drown the elves, it's being drawn for a valid reason. At least i'm using dwarven mechanisms as opposed to BUCKETS.

gonna give this beauty to my hammerer, surely nothing can go wrong, whats terrible about a hammerer with a super expensive artifact hammer???



now he can get back to work making buckets

[datorangebottle]

now he can get back to work making buckets

This post was written by filthy HUMAN hands.

[Kendrickorium]

now he can get back to work making buckets

This post was written by filthy HUMAN hands.

you should be THANKING ME the only reason i MADE THIS THREAD was so that i dont have to keep SPAMMING YOU ON DISCORD ABOUT BUCKETS

[datorangebottle]

now he can get back to work making buckets

This post was written by filthy HUMAN hands.

you should be THANKING ME the only reason i MADE THIS THREAD was so that i dont have to keep SPAMMING YOU ON DISCORD ABOUT BUCKETS

I am going to start throwing minecarts filled with buckets into the magma sea just to make you suffer.

[san7890]

dwarf :)

[Itseasytosee2me]

!DWARF!

[Kendrickorium]

!DWARF!

dwarf

hey fuck faces, contribute to the thread

[Agux909]

The /tg/ version of Dwarf Fortress is the first and only version I've ever played of said game. Don't judge.

[Ziiro]

I've put in 80 hours already

Large birds are fucking aggro as hell and incredibly dangerous. I've have two fortresses completely crippled by them because they'll swoop down and kick the shit out of multiple dwarfs before I even know what's going on

[Itseasytosee2me]

!DWARF!

dwarf

hey fuck faces, contribute to the thread

I already made a post about how I like light aquifers

[Kendrickorium]

I've put in 80 hours already

Large birds are fucking aggro as hell and incredibly dangerous. I've have two fortresses completely crippled by them because they'll swoop down and kick the shit out of multiple dwarfs before I even know what's going on

i think this might have something to do with how much decaying shit/corpses you have outside, also enemy difficulty. probably biome, too?

The /tg/ version of Dwarf Fortress is the first and only version I've ever played of said game. Don't judge.

take your typical green shift, thats a normal game of dwarf fortress

!DWARF!

dwarf

hey fuck faces, contribute to the thread

I already made a post about how I like light aquifers

apologies

[Ziiro]

I've put in 80 hours already

Large birds are fucking aggro as hell and incredibly dangerous. I've have two fortresses completely crippled by them because they'll swoop down and kick the shit out of multiple dwarfs before I even know what's going on

i think this might have something to do with how much decaying shit/corpses you have outside, also enemy difficulty. probably biome, too?

Brand new fortress, like one or two seasons in, nothing rotting outside. All 6 giant cardinals went aggressive at once.

iirc I recall someone somewhere saying it was a bug (a la old carp) but I'm not sure. It's untamed wilds.

[Kendrickorium]

I've put in 80 hours already

Large birds are fucking aggro as hell and incredibly dangerous. I've have two fortresses completely crippled by them because they'll swoop down and kick the shit out of multiple dwarfs before I even know what's going on

i think this might have something to do with how much decaying shit/corpses you have outside, also enemy difficulty. probably biome, too?

Brand new fortress, like one or two seasons in, nothing rotting outside. All 6 giant cardinals went aggressive at once.

iirc I recall someone somewhere saying it was a bug (a la old carp) but I'm not sure. It's untamed wilds.

ive definitely seen other people complain about the birds

[Turbonerd]

The keet population shall end.

[Agux909]

The /tg/ version of Dwarf Fortress is the first and only version I've ever played of said game. Don't judge.

take your typical green shift, thats a normal game of dwarf fortress

Then I feel it'd get old for me real fast.

[Farquaar]

The /tg/ version of Dwarf Fortress is the first and only version I've ever played of said game. Don't judge.

take your typical green shift, thats a normal game of dwarf fortress

You can't commit genocide or crimes against humanity in a greenshift

Really though, DF isn't for everyone. It requires a special sort of concentrated autism to learn and enjoy.

[Fatal]

The steam version is pretty awesome as someone who played ascii version a long time ago

Whilst the price might seem steep, bear in mind, you aren't buying the game for now, you are buying 20 years of the developers hard work and the NEXT 20 years+ of time they are going to put into it, this shit is their life's work

[Epicgamer545]

Dwarf Fortress is just Rimworld but it’s a whole different system and there’s lots of z levels.

[CPTANT]

Rimworld has always been the better game though. Dwarf fortress is just too unbalanced and the interface sucks.

[Farquaar]

Rimworld has always been the better game though. Dwarf fortress is just too unbalanced and the interface sucks.

I'll take "Bad Takes" for 100, Alex

[Itseasytosee2me]

Rimworld has always been the better game though. Dwarf fortress is just too unbalanced and the interface sucks.

Rimworld? Balanced? You my friend have never heard of a killbox.

[CPTANT]

Rimworld has always been the better game though. Dwarf fortress is just too unbalanced and the interface sucks.

Rimworld? Balanced? You my friend have never heard of a killbox.

Building a killbox in Rimworld actually requires some effort, in Dwarf Fortress you just pump in the lava and drain it again. Also Rimworld has mechanics to try and force you out of the killbox, such as sieges, droneships, sappers and infestations

[Itseasytosee2me]

Rimworld has always been the better game though. Dwarf fortress is just too unbalanced and the interface sucks.

Rimworld? Balanced? You my friend have never heard of a killbox.

Building a killbox in Rimworld actually requires some effort, in Dwarf Fortress you just pump in the lava and drain it again.

Oh yeah? Show me your effortless lava pump setup.

[Mice World]

Rimworld has always been the better game though. Dwarf fortress is just too unbalanced and the interface sucks.

I've only played DF for about 5 hours, but surely dwarf fortress is more of a story teller than a game? Also Rimworld's combat system is really bad imo, while DF's isn't that great it's simulated really well.

[Kendrickorium]

Rimworld has always been the better game though. Dwarf fortress is just too unbalanced and the interface sucks.

lol

get out

[CPTANT]

Rimworld has always been the better game though. Dwarf fortress is just too unbalanced and the interface sucks.

Rimworld? Balanced? You my friend have never heard of a killbox.

Building a killbox in Rimworld actually requires some effort, in Dwarf Fortress you just pump in the lava and drain it again.

Oh yeah? Show me your effortless lava pump setup.

Real dwarfs use repeatable lava pistons.

But making a lava pump is actually pretty trivial if you just record a macro once.

[trexter555]

i tried building a multi z level pit and it kept caving in and my miner died

[Farquaar]

i tried building a multi z level pit and it kept caving in and my miner died

Every good tunnel needs adequate structural support, lad. If your pit has a roof, you need to leave some rock walls or build some columns to hold it up.

Unrelated question: Is anyone else a weirdo like me who regularly builds above-ground fortresses? Bonus points if you give each dwarf family its own house.

[Ziiro]

Modding Dwarf Fortress is kind of a pain in the ass because of a lack of debug and testing tools, but it's pretty cool to see the results.

I made dark iron dwarves from WoW. (they have an entirely different sprite sheet because DF sprites are not grayscaled and are tied to skin colors)

Next up is how to make them bleed magma for comical reasons

i tried building a multi z level pit and it kept caving in and my miner died

Every good tunnel needs adequate structural support, lad. If your pit has a roof, you need to leave some rock walls or build some columns to hold it up.

Unrelated question: Is anyone else a weirdo like me who regularly builds above-ground fortresses? Bonus points if you give each dwarf family its own house.

Generally I actually build the visitor's "Tavern" as the only exterior structure. Storytelling wise I think it's a cool idea that adventurers/travelers going through the area stop at a tavern that is built ontop of and is the only external sign of an entire dwarf city.

That said I feel like the resource use for floors/walls/etc is just not efficient enough to build external structures reasonably. Shit's hard.

[Farquaar]

That said I feel like the resource use for floors/walls/etc is just not efficient enough to build external structures reasonably. Shit's hard.

It feels that way at first, but the more you do it the easier it gets. You learn little tricks that allow you to minimize the amount of scaffolding you need and make resources go further.

If you want to maximize your resource/labour efficiency for above-ground structures, it's critical that you use blocks, for a number of reasons:

1. For stone, you get 4 blocks for every rock you put in. It's a huge timesaver if you count the amount of time mining and hauling boulders takes.
2. They reduce building time dramatically compared to raw mats, which has the unexpected effect of reducing micro when roofing or building upper floors.
3. They're great XP for your novice masons/carpenters, since they don't have quality modifiers.
4. They take up much less storage space than raw boulders/logs, as they fit in bins. Just have an manager order to always have a 50-100 blocks of your favourite material on hand and you'll always have a comfy stockpile tucked away.
5. Blocks are much lighter than raw mats, reducing hauling time.
6. Blocks have x1.6 the value of raw wood or rock. Since you can't engrave built walls, every little bit helps.

[Ziiro]

You know I knew blocks were good but I didn't know they were that good. Usually I will actually create a workshop or two that is just create blocks infinitely, forever.

[Farquaar]

Usually I will actually create a workshop or two that is just create blocks infinitely, forever.

If you find yourself setting workshop jobs to repeat often, definitely learn to make use of the order manager. You'll save on a ton of micromanagement in the long run.

[Ziiro]

Usually I will actually create a workshop or two that is just create blocks infinitely, forever.

If you find yourself setting workshop jobs to repeat often, definitely learn to make use of the order manager. You'll save on a ton of micromanagement in the long run.

Oh I mean I know how to use the manager, however I'd most likely be setting the blocks to "If there are less than 1000, keep making them", but even then I'd rather have blocks than stone so it makes sense to keep it infinite.

Fun fact: I played about 50 hours of the steam release before a friend told me about the manager. I was doing everything manually.

[Farquaar]

Oh I mean I know how to use the manager, however I'd most likely be setting the blocks to "If there are less than 1000, keep making them", but even then I'd rather have blocks than stone so it makes sense to keep it infinite.

Fair. Depends on how much building you're doing and whether you use a lot of stone furniture.

Fun fact: I played about 50 hours of the steam release before a friend told me about the manager. I was doing everything manually.

Don't you worry bro. I played the game for years before I finally bothered to learn how useful the manager was.