Headmin Election 17 Discussion Thread

[dragomagol]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Who will run? Who will walk? Who will call a cab?

AwkwardStereo - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33356
CMDR_Gungnir - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33384
EmpressMaia - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33375
Kieth4 - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33360
Iain0 - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33417
Iamgoofball - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33364
Iwishforducks - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33373
Misdoubtful - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33363
NamelessFairy - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33388
RaveRadbury - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33367
Retification/Itseasytosee - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33404
Striders13 - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33362
Thedragmeme - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33358
Timberpoes - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33361
Trexter555 - viewtopic.php?f=38&t=33400

[Super Aggro Crag]

Why do we even have votes

[RedBaronFlyer]

Why do we even have votes

To give an illusion of voices mattering/controlled opposition*

*(which used to be an article on Wikipedia until it got removed a few years back, funny how that works)

[BrolyButterfingers]

All of the MRP admins look like they're in favour of the ban that Maia got, so I'm pretty bummed about how the enforcement environment is going to look on Manuel going forward

[Timberpoes]

>reads timber thread
>Sees essays
>Dies
>Goes back to thread
>See spoilers
>Open them up
>Theres an essay in EACH
>GO BACK TO SHITPOSTING THREAD
>THERES ESSAYS IN HERE TOO
>LOOK ABOVE THIS POST
>DIE

STOP

No can do. The Timber Train keeps rolling, next stop: some other oldmin whose jimmies I have rustled. It could be stp. It could be MSO. IT COULD EVEN BE YOU. Probably won't be rustledjimm though. That would be too poetic.

The beatings essays will continue until morale compliance improves.

[CMDR_Gungnir]

The beatings essays will continue until morale compliance improves.

I miss Timberposting

[Timberpoes]

When the culture war being carried out in my candidacy thread dies down, my post length will drop too.

Probably.

Should have just host voted me.

[NikNakFlak]

I was a writing tutor in college. You make a mockery of discrete meaningful sentences. It's all fluff from you. Mid tbh. You also got nothing on forcefulcjs

[iwishforducks]

i dislike timber's essay postings. why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?

[Tearling]

I genuinely don't see eye-to-eye with Alphonzo and never really have. They are an admin from a different generation, that sees their entire duty as an admin to be placing the bans others seem incapable of placing.

The impression I get is that they think this makes them a good admin because they are doing what needs to be done to force the community to heel.

(From Policybus)

How do you feel these are conflicting statements?

[NikNakFlak]

bros holy shit, Iain0 is so active
what the fuck
should I be impressed or worried?

[wubli]

i wish people would stop mixing saying a lot of words with sayings things of substance

[wubli]

Also if you don't even play or enjoy the game and just want to be a headmin because you like the bureaucracy
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[Bawhoppennn]

I like bureaucracy Wubli should I be headmin

[wubli]

not if you don't like the game lol
if you do then yeah :} i accepted host vote because i played the game a lot and wanted to do something nice for it and the community i was in touch with
if i was only in the discord/forums i would've not accepted it

[NikNakFlak]

wubli stop being a weenie and being cryptic and drop some names its more interesting that way

[Qbmax32]

im sorry bro but wall of text andys need to realize that we play funny clown honk spaceman game, nothing sends people to the bottom of my voting list faster then people who feel the need to respond to EVERYTHING with a 50 trillion character world salad (and player candidates lol)

[Drag]

Player candidates have heart, but I don't they they realize how soul crushing getting used to admin tools are. When Hulk surprise admined me to tell me he was gonna train me I thought I was going to have a full on stroke from the sensory overload. It's also really important to know you need to be good at log related things and being able to identify alts. Which also gave me a minor stroke.

[Jackraxxus]

If a player candidate wins I wanna be in the training VC when they're taught the tools it'll surely be funny

[BONERMASTER]

world salad

With worldly regards
-BONERMASTER

[wubli]

wubli stop being a weenie and being cryptic and drop some names its more interesting that way

i'm being sexy and mysterious i was also very drunk when i posted that

[Capsandi]

More candidates should air each other's dirty laundry this is getting good.

[NikNakFlak]

wubli stop being a weenie and being cryptic and drop some names its more interesting that way

i'm being sexy and mysterious i was also very drunk when i posted that

what a coincidence so was I

[NikNakFlak]

The drunk part for clarification not the sexy and mysterious part

[TheLoLSwat]

uhhh kieth / timber for playervote probably

the rest of them fighting for adminvote but a player for sure is not getting it lol (drag/rave/striders13) im not an admin though so one of those goobers are going to have a better idea than me

candidates stop being looked at when people stop believing they will win.



TLDR

Kieth/Timber will be who the playervote comes down

rave/striders13/drag will be who the admin vote comes down to (hopefully an admin can respond to this if im way off but this is what its looking like)

Misdoubtful/Timberposes/drag seems to be the safest guess if you had a gun to your head and needed to correctly guess the headmins today

[Turbonerd]

Iain0 seems like a very, incredibly solid choice. I hope goof wins player vote. Stereo could also win player vote, which would be funny. Iain0 will probably win the admin vote.

[TheLoLSwat]

if you ran in this election, and you want a tip to not be <600 views on your candidate post for next time

theres a reason two of the most active people on forums and discord are still so deep in the running. If you want to be taken seriously as a headmin candidate you need to become the person that you see being headmin well before the election starts.

[chocolate_bickie]

if you ran in this election, and you want a tip to not be <600 views on your candidate post for next time

theres a reason two of the most active people on forums and discord are still so deep in the running. If you want to be taken seriously as a headmin candidate you need to become the person that you see being headmin well before the election starts.

Pretty much this.

The best headmin candidates are the ones already doing their platform.

Most of what candidates say they are going to do are things they could already be doing.

[dragomagol]

- snip -

Misdoubtful/Timberposes/drag seems to be the safest guess if you had a gun to your head and needed to correctly guess the headmins today

I like your analysis, but this assumes that the forum population is an accurate representation of the actual voters (which I don't think is the case).

[kieth4]

At the end of the day it's random really lots of players will put their mid candies in a random order, my money is on timber winning though. I think I'll come around 3rd probably- but we'll see, it's an interesting election for sure.

[AwkwardStereo]

Stereo could also win player vote, which would be funny.

If this happened it would have to be people using their voting card as an alphabet practice test.

[TheLoLSwat]

this assumes that the forum population is an accurate representation of the actual voters (which I don't think is the case).

i was doing some pondering (pic rel its me) about this for a long time since it throws a huge wrench into analyzing and you are right. There are an untold number of mystery individuals that arent accounted for who will influence the vote. However, I dont think the little timmy influence is good enough to stop either timber or kieth from taking the playervote.

[Timberpoes]

In the admin vote, Rave's the one to beat due to incumbent favour.

It is strong and you really need to have a massive admin team unifier running against you (like Mothblocks) unless you massively shit the bed during your term. The devil you know, and all that.

The question always comes down to - Does the admin team want to see another 6 months of headmin Rave in appeals, complaints and adminbus?

They do have some main issues that may negatively impact admins like:
"I don't think that headmins have an obligation to participate in policy discussion. Their position is to talk in the internal discussions tower with the other headmins and come to an agreement." - Rave's stance on policy discussions is not participating at all outside of headminbus. If you're an admin and you want a policy change to happen, you can't guarantee Rave will publicly participate in the process?
"I'm not a good timekeeper, I benefit from someone who can keep the metronome ticking." - Doesn't contribute their full weight to keeping the lights on? This term's response time on appeals and complaints mixed in.

But otherwise Rave promises another 6 months of no change. And most admins dig the status quo as long as they haven't been negatively impacted by it.

[cybersaber101]

I vote for whoever has the best OC so Drag and rave are def high on my list.

[Annihilite111]

Timber has the exact kind of autism i like to see in a headmin. The kind where norms and social conventions are so drowned out by stubbornness and rigid (usually unhinged) moral frameworks that they don't effectively matter. Truly a child of the most golden branches of the Asperger tree.

[Timberpoes]

Timber has the exact kind of autism i like to see in a headmin. The kind where norms and social conventions are so drowned out by stubbornness and rigid (usually unhinged) moral frameworks that they don't effectively matter. Truly a child of the most golden branches of the Asperger tree.

I consider myself one of the Internet's most pre-eminent and top autists.

[Drag]

I vote for whoever has the best OC so Drag and rave are def high on my list.

The best part is you can't actually tell if they're a guy or not, so I systematically get to pick whatever is funnier in the moment.

[ekaterina]

My opinions right now (subject to change prior to the end of voting):

1 - Timberpoes - number one candidate, always comes in with correct opinions which he conveys well and respectfully - I was hoping he'd run and he did!
2 - NamelessFairy / Striders13 - good admins with good opinions in general; in both cases, unimpressive policy but they have the profile to do a good job over the semester
3 - CMDR_Gungnir / Rectification - good policy, good forum opinions, but I haven't got the same certainty as with the number two candidates
4 - Drag - has made bad decisions in the past, no LRP policy but willing to learn, gaining ground / kieth4 - good intentions but poor knowledge of policy, gaining ground (started out at the bottom)
5 - iamgoofball - cool platform, but I'm not satisfied about either the experience or the profile
6 - iwishforducks - cool guy but bad platform
7 - iain0 - [see my reply his post for why I think he's the worst candidate]

If two people are on the same tier I just haven't decided which of the two is better yet

Misdoubtful has already won but she'd be up there with Timberpoes if she hadn't.

No opinion yet - EmpressMaia/Trexter555/Rave_Radbury/AwkwardStereo - never/barely heard of them, will have to look into them before voting. If any of you four see this message, you're welcome to enlighten me.

[conrad]

My card so far, and I am not gonna change it. Candidates have spoken enough for me to form an opinion (unless they murder puppies or something):

1 - Striders13: love the tiding policy. Solves a ton of problems with banbaiting. Also generally a cool guy that's active on the Discord.
2 - Stereo: Incredibly sane. Good dad joke dedication. This means I'm voting for Timberpoes, by the way.
3 - NamelessFairy: I like them even though I hate cat people. Good head on their shoulders.
4 - keith4: Funny guy, and although I feel he's gonna wreck his headminship before he does anything good, he's not malicious. You don't have to be a genius to be headmin.
5 - Drag: I like their interactions on the forum. Not a fan of never seeing them on the Discord. Also, I think LRP needs more headmin love rn
6 - iain0: Silicon policy is why he's not at the bottom. I'm not a fan of admins I don't know much about besides adminwho.
7 - ducks: I like ducks. He's a cool guy and I think he has good intentions. His insane platform isn't gonna come through though. Mentioning him 'cos he cool.

Everyone else is gonna be on the bottom of the card in a random order.

[iwishforducks]

not gonna lie it is a little heartbreaking seeing me so low on people’s cards

[CMDR_Gungnir]

not gonna lie it is a little heartbreaking seeing me so low on people’s cards

The secret's to prepare for the worst, but hope for the best.

(If you want feedback, I think your biggest problem you run into is the Delete Manuel Or Roleplay Policy front. No matter what, either one, or both, of our communities lose their preferred style of playing SS13. That's a very hard case to make look good.)

[ekaterina]

not gonna lie it is a little heartbreaking seeing me so low on people’s cards

Don't take it personally. We don't hate you, we hate your ideas.

[conrad]

not gonna lie it is a little heartbreaking seeing me so low on people’s cards

The secret's to prepare for the worst, but hope for the best.

(If you want feedback, I think your biggest problem you run into is the Delete Manuel Or Roleplay Policy front. No matter what, either one, or both, of our communities lose their preferred style of playing SS13. That's a very hard case to make look good.)

Basically this. I'm an options please guy. Removing options removes content, and the rest is what Gungnir said.

[kieth4]

not gonna lie it is a little heartbreaking seeing me so low on people’s cards

Dw about it bro truly, I felt kinda heartbroken last election where an admin listed everyone they were voting for other than me then had a point about how players should just apply for admin. Wait until the election ends and even if you come last you will have at least 1 person putting you 1 I'm sure. Cherish that person.

[rasonj]

I am voting Strider because I agree with their silicon policy and I like admins that push buttons.

[wesoda25]

not gonna lie it is a little heartbreaking seeing me so low on people’s cards

Dw about it bro truly, I felt kinda heartbroken last election where an admin listed everyone they were voting for other than me then had a point about how players should just apply for admin. Wait until the election ends and even if you come last you will have at least 1 person putting you 1 I'm sure. Cherish that person.

[iwishforducks]

not gonna lie it is a little heartbreaking seeing me so low on people’s cards

Dw about it bro truly, I felt kinda heartbroken last election where an admin listed everyone they were voting for other than me then had a point about how players should just apply for admin. Wait until the election ends and even if you come last you will have at least 1 person putting you 1 I'm sure. Cherish that person.

thanks for the kind words, kieth.

i think i'm just gonna remove the manuel part of my headmin election thread. i'm no longer really interested in pushing it. i think on a fundamental level i still believe in it but i'd rather take the 6 months to flush it out and do other things on the server. i think my other policies are great and i want to get them in for the good of the servers. i'd hate for my manuel policy to be the limiting factor on me for a lot of people

[kieth4]

not gonna lie it is a little heartbreaking seeing me so low on people’s cards

Dw about it bro truly, I felt kinda heartbroken last election where an admin listed everyone they were voting for other than me then had a point about how players should just apply for admin. Wait until the election ends and even if you come last you will have at least 1 person putting you 1 I'm sure. Cherish that person.

thanks for the kind words, kieth.

i think i'm just gonna remove the manuel part of my headmin election thread. i'm no longer really interested in pushing it. i think on a fundamental level i still believe in it but i'd rather take the 6 months to flush it out and do other things on the server. i think my other policies are great and i want to get them in for the good of the servers. i'd hate for my manuel policy to be the limiting factor on me for a lot of people

Putting ideas to public scrutiny is great man, that's the hardest part. Mfs can say what they want but they haven't put themselves in the sights of so many people. If nothing else take away that you managed to put yourself in the spotlight with radical as fuck ideas which is pog and a brave thing to do. Regardless on if you remove it or not best of luck bro.

[oranges]

not gonna lie it is a little heartbreaking seeing me so low on people’s cards

maybe that should encourage some self reflection on your dumbass ideas

[oranges]

oh i see it did

[iwishforducks]

not gonna lie it is a little heartbreaking seeing me so low on people’s cards

maybe that should encourage some self reflection on your dumbass ideas

no need to be so rude

[oranges]

your idea was dumb, making you a dumbass for having it.

That's not rude it's just a fact, now that you've given it up, you're no longer a dumbass