I will make a one time donation of $150 USD to the servers within the week if MSO agrees to hardban felinids for 2 years

[dirk_mcblade]

Terms: All servers ban felinids as a playable race, no grandfathered felinids, implementation can be delayed until payment clears via PayPal but must be effective for 24 months after implementation completes, $150 USD is net of third party fees such as Patreon etc. within reason (ie $200 gross $150 net to server not something stupid and scammy like $200+ to get $150 to the servers)

Since democracy sucks let's settle this the ancapistan way.

More importantly I'd like to see if khajits put their money where their hairball holes are by putting up a counteroffer to keep felinids playable. Nyaaah~

[kinnebian]

MSO is known for his capitalistic greed

[Fatal]

This is a drop in ocean I believe regarding server finances, but any money is useful

I think of you added more you have more chance personally

[WineAllWine]

Others could join in, end up making a bidding war

[TheLoLSwat]

the felind fanatics will outbid you

[dirk_mcblade]

This is a drop in ocean I believe regarding server finances, but any money is useful

I think of you added more you have more chance personally

Arbitrarily I don't want to commit more than my YouTube revenue so far.

Also open to counteroffers by MSO given my price cap

[BONERMASTER]

Appraising your offer, I believe you'll need to start with at least $1000 to even be considered. Further, you're targeting a sub-set of players that are particularly willing to pay money to feed their fetish addiction (ask any furry artist). So you need to also consider the loss of revenue that you will incur by losing these player's income.

Also 2 years is an extremely long time. I'd give you chances if your offer moves in the range of roughly $30.000. Other than that, it is not going to be a deal.


With material regards
-BONERMASTER

[Jacquerel]

$150 for a period spanning two years is $6 per month

[LeekiLoku]

Ill add 200, if you also ban lizards.

[dirk_mcblade]

Ill add 200, if you also ban lizards.

We're up to about tree fiddy, folks.

[dirk_mcblade]

Appraising your offer, I believe you'll need to start with at least $1000 to even be considered. Further, you're targeting a sub-set of players that are particularly willing to pay money to feed their fetish addiction (ask any furry artist). So you need to also consider the loss of revenue that you will incur by losing these player's income.

Also 2 years is an extremely long time. I'd give you chances if your offer moves in the range of roughly $30.000. Other than that, it is not going to be a deal.


With material regards
-BONERMASTER

We're not all highly compensated internet lawyers.
Also by my reckoning the payment of $150 is about 3% of annual gross Patreon revenue. Are felinids contributing 3%? It's time for them to stand up and be counted.

[Turbonerd]

$150.00 is barely anything for something that will have such a huge impact over a long time period. Probably not even enough to get him to do it for a day. Get real.

[Not-Dorsidarf]

You might be able to buy him out for $1500, but I wouldn't bet on it. Everyone appreciates a bribe but that's insultingly low.

[Jacquerel]

Ill add 200, if you also ban lizards.

We're up to about tree fiddy, folks.

$350 over 24 months is about $14.50 per month, starting to approach "usually generous patreon contributor" but not "ultimatum deliverer"

[Fren256]

Is this how lobbying works

[dirk_mcblade]

You might be able to buy him out for $1500, but I wouldn't bet on it. Everyone appreciates a bribe but that's insultingly low.

Insultingly low? I toiled in the Alphabet salt mines for the equivalent pay rate of about $2/hr to gather this budget.
While monetarily insignificant, rest assured this is a form of blood money coming home and thereby closing a loop from tg/fulp through Google through me back to tg.
https://youtu.be/V9XeyBd_IuA

[Mice World]

Assuming this isn't a joke, something like this will hopefully never happen. If MSO is willing to bend his knee to the highest bidder... well it'd be time to find a new server.

[Armhulen]

Ill add 200, if you also ban lizards.

We're up to about tree fiddy, folks.

$350 over 24 months is about $14.50 per month, starting to approach "usually generous patreon contributor" but not "ultimatum deliverer"

I don't know if I'd let someone drag me into the drama dimension for that very low amount but it is up front which is pretty good. but moneytarily 150 or 350 this dude aint got the dosh to make it worthwhile for TWO YEARS. half the time to one year and it's already 29$ a month which is at least worth raising eyebrows

[MrStonedOne]

I ran the numbers on the current patrons and the furries out number the normals 2:1 in patrons and 4:1 in dollar amount.

So now I want $600 $1400 USD to *not* do what the op is asking me to do.

Should be no problem right?

[iwishforducks]

i’ll pay 2 stones and a stick

[iwishforducks]

I ran the numbers on the current patrons and the furries out number the normals 2:1 in patrons and 4:1 in dollar amount.

So now I want $600 $1400 USD to *not* do what the op is asking me to do.

Should be no problem right?

felinids are not furries you’re gonna have to run your numbers again

[dirk_mcblade]

[Armhulen]

i'm doing the thing where i'm inverting my pockets and a single fly whizzes out from the left pocket

[TheRex9001]

I ran the numbers on the current patrons and the furries out number the normals 2:1 in patrons and 4:1 in dollar amount.

So now I want $600 $1400 USD to *not* do what the op is asking me to do.

Should be no problem right?

Is this to not remove felinids?

[kayozz]

Assuming this isn't a joke, something like this will hopefully never happen. If MSO is willing to bend his knee to the highest bidder... well it'd be time to find a new server.

How is losing felinid players a bad thing?

[iwishforducks]

How is losing felinid players a bad thing?

[BONERMASTER]

I ran the numbers on the current patrons and the furries out number the normals 2:1 in patrons and 4:1 in dollar amount.

So now I want $600 $1400 USD to *not* do what the op is asking me to do.

Should be no problem right?

felinids are not furries you’re gonna have to run your numbers again

With copious regards
-BONERMASTER

[Mice World]

How is losing felinid players a bad thing?

It isn't just about this one change. Despite playing a felinid, I wouldn't care if they get removed.

People should never be able to influence the sever with money. It only benefits the host, while potentially ruining the game for everyone else.

[HeyHey]

How much would it cost to axe moths? I'll do $350

[Armhulen]

How much would it cost to remove humans

[Striders13]

How much would it cost to close the server forever

[kayozz]

How is losing felinid players a bad thing?

It isn't just about this one change. Despite playing a felinid, I wouldn't care if they get removed.

People should never be able to influence the sever with money. It only benefits the host, while potentially ruining the game for everyone else.

I'm joking don't worry.

[dirk_mcblade]

I do not support adding the anti moths to our coalition at this time because to be honest it doesn't seem needed. Not a single felinid has stepped up to the plate yet. Where y'all at?

[iwishforducks]

How is losing felinid players a bad thing?

It isn't just about this one change. Despite playing a felinid, I wouldn't care if they get removed.

People should never be able to influence the sever with money. It only benefits the host, while potentially ruining the game for everyone else.

I'm joking don't worry.

i wasn't

[MMMiracles]

i spent more on the tram this is some weak shit

[BeeSting12]

OP thinks 150 is a significant amount of money. If MSO actually wanted to make money off felinids, he should just make it a patreon subscriber option at 5 bucks per month. If 30 people want to play felinids then MSO can be pulling in 150 per month and I guarantee it would be more than that.

[Misdoubtful]

150 bucks for two years is pretty weak.

[TheSmallBlue]

The tg patreon make 350 bucks per month, by simply doing absolutley nothing for an entire month MSO can get double than what you're asking for. Step up your game

[Armhulen]

150 bucks for two years is pretty weak.

even the 350 is like mso working at mcdonalds 1 hour every month

[HeyHey]

The tg patreon make 350 bucks per month, by simply doing absolutley nothing for an entire month MSO can get double than what you're asking for. Step up your game

Alright Felinid-haters we need to form a financial lobbying group to pull a couple grand together if we are serious about this.

[The Wrench]

We could do a gofundme

[Armhulen]

We could do a gofundme

or you could subscribe to the tgstation patreon

[LeekiLoku]

I ran the numbers on the current patrons and the furries out number the normals 2:1 in patrons and 4:1 in dollar amount.

So now I want $600 $1400 USD to *not* do what the op is asking me to do.

Should be no problem right?

Ill pay you that much if you remove ALL races apart from human.

[dirk_mcblade]

We could do a gofundme

or you could subscribe to the tgstation patreon

In a few days if no felinids even mention what their counter is, I intend to ask MSO how he'd like to arrange the payment (I assume there'd be some kind of donor category set up through Patreon for me to pay once then unsubscribe but idk).

I'll also suggest like a $2 (or something similarly low 50 cents maybe) antifelinid rider membership on Patreon to track this amongst donors. I don't know how Patreon works.

People can say $150 is an insult, but if that's insulting what is $0?

[Vekter]

Okay, no, for real, what the fuck is it with you people and felinids? Go outside, get a fucking life. Jesus.

[san7890]

i bet that if this really went through, the amount of people who wouldn't renew their subscriptions would just immediately outweigh whatever gains hope to be earned. that is unless more people decide to play on /tg/ and donate more to /tg/ due to the felinid ban, but why hedge your bets on a slim likelihood?

[Striders13]

People can say $150 is an insult, but if that's insulting what is $0?

a slur

[CMDR_Gungnir]

Okay, no, for real, what the fuck is it with you people and felinids? Go outside, get a fucking life. Jesus.

They obsess over felinids more than actual Felinid players do.

[TheRex9001]

Who cares? I find felinids to be creativly boring but others can have their own opinions, I also find it a bad precident to be able to bribe the host with like 350 bucks for a pure removal.

[AsbestosSniffer]

I'll give the server my left testicle if Crag's Snalien idea is actually implemented.