local man can dish it out, cannot take it

[oranges]

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man who talks shit gets hit, cries to dad

also it's a bad day in hell when sinfulbliss has an actually good take for once

[kinnebian]

complaint made by the same person who regularly says shit such as:

LISTEN TO ME YOU MARSH-DWELLING BUGMUNCHER I'M GOING TO GRAB YOU BY YOUR FUCKING TAIL AND TEAR IT OFF AND BEAT YOU WITH IT UNTIL YOU GROW A NEW ONE. I'M GOING TO TAKE A CANISTER OF FREON AND FREEZE BOTH OF YOUR COCKS SOLID AND SMASH THEM WITH A HARMBATON. I'LL STITCH BOTH FORKS OF YOUR TONGUE TOGETHER AND PUNCH YOU IN THE JAW SO HARD YOU BITE THROUGH IT! YOUR TWISTED CHICKEN LEGS ARE GOING TO BE SO FULL OF BLOODY STAINED GLASS YOU'LL BE DECLARED A FUCKING CATHEDRAL

[conrad]

complaint made by the same person who regularly says shit such as:

LISTEN TO ME YOU MARSH-DWELLING BUGMUNCHER I'M GOING TO GRAB YOU BY YOUR FUCKING TAIL AND TEAR IT OFF AND BEAT YOU WITH IT UNTIL YOU GROW A NEW ONE. I'M GOING TO TAKE A CANISTER OF FREON AND FREEZE BOTH OF YOUR COCKS SOLID AND SMASH THEM WITH A HARMBATON. I'LL STITCH BOTH FORKS OF YOUR TONGUE TOGETHER AND PUNCH YOU IN THE JAW SO HARD YOU BITE THROUGH IT! YOUR TWISTED CHICKEN LEGS ARE GOING TO BE SO FULL OF BLOODY STAINED GLASS YOU'LL BE DECLARED A FUCKING CATHEDRAL

[TheRex9001]

Local man complains about this after saying a statement which somehow did not get them blacklisted.

[Archie700]

I'm putting this here because this will definitely get peanut policy'd out but it shows how cringe SAC is

Was very clearly a joke and didn't even imply you should "kill yourself," it's a fuckin hypothetical where there are two clones of you.

Insanely, intensely cringe for you to complaint over this after you've consistently for the better part of 7 years used the forum to spew vitriol at other people. You can give but can't take? Get real. Change your diapers or something...

[conrad]

I am deathly curious as to how Crag though this was going to work in their favour.

[TheFinalPotato]

I thought this was a joke about the show The Good Place

[Archie700]

[sinfulbliss]

they edited their complaint but originally it said something like
"I nearly got blacklisted for 'making a joke' too so this is a double standard"

which showed they only made the complaint as a petty sort of coping at their initial ban from the forums,
"if I got banned for a harmless joke then why aren't the admins getting banned for them too??? ban Wine too go ahead! if we're disallowing 'jokes' now this is no exception surely?"

they removed that part now though! showed their hand too much.

[dirk_mcblade]

Didn't crag unironically want to kill somebody or something? I dunno. Seems kind of dramatic. You never know who you're going to make upset joking around as an admin I guess.

[dirk_mcblade]

Also can't you only make complaint threads after successful appeals?

[General Thrax]

[conrad]

they edited their complaint but originally it said something like
"I nearly got blacklisted for 'making a joke' too so this is a double standard"

which showed they only made the complaint as a petty sort of coping at their initial ban from the forums,
"if I got banned for a harmless joke then why aren't the admins getting banned for them too??? ban Wine too go ahead! if we're disallowing 'jokes' now this is no exception surely?"

they removed that part now though! showed their hand too much.

This is a reference to when Crag said that it "it would be a great idea to find a specific forum poster IRL and" you know the rest.

[Not-Dorsidarf]

If Wine already admitted it was in bad taste to wish crag was dead as a joke and apologised, why is crag making a complaint

[dirk_mcblade]

Wow he's trying to cancel an admin. You hear that jannies? You not only have to work for free but you have to be polite to us too.

[conrad]

Wow he's trying to cancel an admin. You hear that jannies? You not only have to work for free but you have to be polite to us too.

Fuck off.

[kinnebian]

Wow he's trying to cancel an admin. You hear that jannies? You not only have to work for free but you have to be polite to us too.

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[dirk_mcblade]

This abuse of authority will not stand.
Crag will get to the bottom of this.

[Lacran]

Medicated sinful vs crag is a battle I didn't see coming

[ekaterina]

Craig is someone that ate a month long ban for proposing IRL violence against me and telling me to kill myself.
Now he's crying about WineAllWine's post? Absolutely risible.

[massa]

any custom sticker makers

[sinfulbliss]

I understand that you may feel as though your attempt at comedy is being misconstrued but i truly feel that, as an administrator trainer, you need to be aware that such "jokes" can bw harmful.

meanwhile...

why dont we just find out where ekaterina lives IRL and kill him

You're at peace with yourself? So glad you've forgiven yourself. I guess that means you can keep displaying your shitty fucking behavior to the end of time because it won't weigh on your conscious because you're a fucking self-absorbed narcissistic mentally defective human being. Therapy and medication would be wasted on you so please remove yourself from the genepool and society in the quickest way possible. I suggest you find the sharpest object you can on your island and disembowel yourself as the Japanese samurai once did, so you can keep up the LARP that you're an honorable guy just being unfairly oppressed, you fucking retard ronin. Maybe get mothblocks to be your second to lop your fucking pin sized head off your sloping, formless shoulders, you fucking heap of mashed potatoes.

Cry about it pussy tits. for guys who say you love the challenge and intensity of ss13 you seem to fucking shit yourselves and demand people stop bullying you when your opponents have an opportunity to fight back.

Stupid fucking retard.

your presence is ugly and unproductive just like your fucking impotent bent dick, you fucking stupid cocksucker. I am literally trying to help you from developing a reputation of being an Absolutely Gormless Shiteating Retard, but apparently you want to wear that fucking appellation with pride. Do you want to know what the difference is between me getting banned and the fucking dentskull necrophile you're taking a stand for? I admitted what I did was in the wrong and I apologized to people and talked to the fucking admins about it instead of fucking lying in my appeal. Milthy hasn't fucking posted since he got called out on his lie so there's three fucking options here. I know your brain has been rotted out from fecal bacteria since you have your skull lodged so fucking deeply into your colon but let me run them down for you in case you can't fucking figure them out.

Keep fucking seething and shitting yourself every time a pedophile rapist necrophile klansmen gets told to knock it off and I'm sure you'll finally gain the fucking accolades you deserve and pass the Internet Forum Appeal Bar Exam. I'd tell you to eat shit and die, but I don't want milthy to get horny again, so eat shit and live forever.

There's no way you say all that then shit your pants and cry over "haha what if your clones killed each other." What an absolute pussy. I hope the headmins slap the complaint down like the temper tantrum it is. Permanently lost whatever little respect I had for Crag, this is pathetic.

[Archie700]

Crag guilt-tripping wine for a snippy reference that could be very dubiously constructed as a "kill yourself" when crag himself has done a lot worse is the most hypocritical shit I have ever heard.

[ekaterina]

they edited their complaint but originally it said something like
"I nearly got blacklisted for 'making a joke' too so this is a double standard"

which showed they only made the complaint as a petty sort of coping at their initial ban from the forums,
"if I got banned for a harmless joke then why aren't the admins getting banned for them too??? ban Wine too go ahead! if we're disallowing 'jokes' now this is no exception surely?"

they removed that part now though! showed their hand too much.

This is a reference to when Crag said that it "it would be a great idea to find a specific forum poster IRL and" you know the rest.

Hi, hello, it's me, specific forum poster™.

I can't decide whether it's based that Craig is trying to hold the people in power to the same standard he was held or absolutely debased that he's holding others to a standard he can't follow himself. Perhaps both.

The fact that WineAllWine has admin powers in game does not mean he should not get the same right to express himself on the forums as any other player.

[sinfulbliss]

If the headmins fall for this shit I'm gonna be super disappointed. Even if his PM is some personal anecdote explaining why suicide hits so close to home, it doesn't matter, you have to really squint and twist Wine's post to make it into a "KYS" joke. Not sure why you'd do that unless you wanted to get offended at something.

Is it a coincidence he just got banned for suggesting (as a joke) someone be killed?

[WineAllWine]

they edited their complaint but originally it said something like
"I nearly got blacklisted for 'making a joke' too so this is a double standard"

which showed they only made the complaint as a petty sort of coping at their initial ban from the forums,
"if I got banned for a harmless joke then why aren't the admins getting banned for them too??? ban Wine too go ahead! if we're disallowing 'jokes' now this is no exception surely?"

they removed that part now though! showed their hand too much.

This is a reference to when Crag said that it "it would be a great idea to find a specific forum poster IRL and" you know the rest.

Hi, hello, it's me, specific forum poster™.

I can't decide whether it's based that Craig is trying to hold the people in power to the same standard he was held or absolutely debased that he's holding others to a standard he can't follow himself. Perhaps both.

The fact that WineAllWine has admin powers in game does not mean he should not get the same right to express himself on the forums as any other player.

I actually disagree here, I think as an admin and, perhaps more importantly, an admin trainer I must be held to a higher standard than the average forumite

[sinfulbliss]

I actually disagree here, I think as an admin and, perhaps more importantly, an admin trainer I must be held to a higher standard than the average forumite

With all due respect, that's chickenshit bro. You should be allowed to make jokes like everyone else. You shouldn't have to tiptoe and triple filter everything you say for the 0.1% of people that find a way to get offended over it.

[dirk_mcblade]

It's not enough that admins contribute free labor they must take into account our feelings.

[Timberpoes]

Standards for admins are inherently higher, but those higher standards also have to reflect an element of genuine common sense.

Admins are community leaders and should represent the best parts of our community. The higher standard should always emphasise that.

Put admins on too high of a pedestal and the risk is they become elitist and unapproachable. Detatched from the everyday community member. Perhaps even start to think they're better than other people because of it.

To me, that elitism outcome can be even worse than trash tier admins. I think it's easy to overturn a culture of admins being too bad. Replacing bad admins with people that want to do better is easier than replacing so-good-they're-bad admins with people that want to do worse-yet-better.

[ariever]

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[Vekter]

I feel like if we're going to hold players to the standard that they can't tell other players to kill themselves, we should be held to that same standard.

I don't really think the joke Wine made constitutes that, but I can see how it could be construed as such.

It's whatever. We've yelled at Crag for telling people to kill themselves plenty of times and it'd be unfair if we didn't yell at the person who did it to him. You can pontificate all you want about "not being able to take what you dish out", but at the end of the day, wrong is wrong.

[conrad]

Standards for admins are inherently higher, but those higher standards also have to reflect an element of genuine common sense.

Admins are community leaders and should represent the best parts of our community. The higher standard should always emphasise that.

Put admins on too high of a pedestal and the risk is they become elitist and unapproachable. Detatched from the everyday community member. Perhaps even start to think they're better than other people because of it.

To me, that elitism outcome can be even worse than trash tier admins. I think it's easy to overturn a culture of admins being too bad. Replacing bad admins with people that want to do better is easier than replacing so-good-they're-bad admins with people that want to do worse-yet-better.

You mean I wasn't supposed to become elitist and unapproachable? Whoops.

[sinfulbliss]

I feel like if we're going to hold players to the standard that they can't tell other players to kill themselves, we should be held to that same standard.

I don't really think the joke Wine made constitutes that, but I can see how it could be construed as such.

It's whatever. We've yelled at Crag for telling people to kill themselves plenty of times and it'd be unfair if we didn't yell at the person who did it to him. You can pontificate all you want about "not being able to take what you dish out", but at the end of the day, wrong is wrong.

Except wrong isn’t wrong because, as you just said yourself, Wine’s joke doesn’t constitute as telling Craig to KYS.

Maybe if Wine straight up said “KYS” you’d have a point, FWIW i’d still find it cringe to report him when Crag’s done the same shit himself, but at least then all this “admins should be held to the same standards” rhetoric would apply. That’s not what he said though.

[sinfulbliss]

Side note, admin should really have an age requirement of 20. None of this “18 year old” admin shit. Everyone knows all those fuckers end up poppin out 2 years later saying “haha gotcha I just turned 18 actually! Cant be retroactive banned for rule 9 tho ”

You KNOW some of these motherfuckers are 16-17. And even if they’re honest, 18 is still too young to be admin, these fetuses are going to senior prom while larping as catgirls in the INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS tower? I think the fuck not. The thought of getting bwoinked by a kid in high school sends shivers down my spine

[Fren256]

Crag guilt-tripping wine for a snippy reference that could be very dubiously constructed as a "kill yourself" when crag himself has done a lot worse is the most hypocritical shit I have ever heard.

Can you explain it? I watched The Good Place but I don't think I remember the reference.

[WineAllWine]

All closed, all resolved, all happy </drama>

[Super Aggro Crag]

Now that thread closed and issue resolved i think i am allowed to post in peanut thread so here goes

To the people who criticized my actions i sincerely hope for the sake of the people around you and those that you care about that you never have to deal someone you care about having suicidal ideation or worse yet, dying by suicide. I hope that you can self reflect on the fact that although you personally may not see it, you never truly know how your audience will take a joke about something as dire as self harm and that you will never have to confront the fact that perhaps your hasty words in a forum about a poorly coded atmospherics simulator caused someone actual physical harm. Big thanks to Wine to being open to discussing the matter further with me and being willing to reach common ground on it.

[Archie700]

Now that thread closed and issue resolved i think i am allowed to post in peanut thread so here goes

To the people who criticized my actions i sincerely hope for the sake of the people around you and those that you care about that you never have to deal someone you care about having suicidal ideation or worse yet, dying by suicide. I hope that you can self reflect on the fact that although you personally may not see it, you never truly know how your audience will take a joke about something as dire as self harm and that you will never have to confront the fact that perhaps your hasty words in a forum about a poorly coded atmospherics simulator caused someone actual physical harm. Big thanks to Wine to being open to discussing the matter further with me and being willing to reach common ground on it.

Here's the thing, not only did you not try to clear it up with him in private, what you did was basically slander him wholesale and say that his very slightly tasteless joke (which was a response to yours and most likely some jab) was in any way the same as your direct assertion that we should find someone and kill them.

Had you just PMed him in private to handle it, no one would be talking about it. Instead, you made him look like he was basically cursing you to die.

[sinfulbliss]

Now that thread closed and issue resolved i think i am allowed to post in peanut thread so here goes

To the people who criticized my actions i sincerely hope for the sake of the people around you and those that you care about that you never have to deal someone you care about having suicidal ideation or worse yet, dying by suicide. I hope that you can self reflect on the fact that although you personally may not see it, you never truly know how your audience will take a joke about something as dire as self harm and that you will never have to confront the fact that perhaps your hasty words in a forum about a poorly coded atmospherics simulator caused someone actual physical harm. Big thanks to Wine to being open to discussing the matter further with me and being willing to reach common ground on it.

Here's the thing, not only did you not try to clear it up with him in private, what you did was basically slander him wholesale and say that his very slightly tasteless joke (which was a response to yours and most likely some jab) was in any way the same as your direct assertion that we should find someone and kill them.

Had you just PMed him in private to handle it, no one would be talking about it. Instead, you made him look like he was basically cursing you to die.

+1 to this, you lost any semblance of this being more than some weird vindictive backlash at admins for banning you from the forums when you decided to go the route of admin complaint over an innocuous joke

[conrad]

Now that thread closed and issue resolved i think i am allowed to post in peanut thread so here goes

To the people who criticized my actions i sincerely hope for the sake of the people around you and those that you care about that you never have to deal someone you care about having suicidal ideation or worse yet, dying by suicide. I hope that you can self reflect on the fact that although you personally may not see it, you never truly know how your audience will take a joke about something as dire as self harm and that you will never have to confront the fact that perhaps your hasty words in a forum about a poorly coded atmospherics simulator caused someone actual physical harm. Big thanks to Wine to being open to discussing the matter further with me and being willing to reach common ground on it.

That's a good message. I appreciate you writing it. Please use this as an opportunity to turn a new leaf and do as you preached.

[Super Aggro Crag]

Now that thread closed and issue resolved i think i am allowed to post in peanut thread so here goes

To the people who criticized my actions i sincerely hope for the sake of the people around you and those that you care about that you never have to deal someone you care about having suicidal ideation or worse yet, dying by suicide. I hope that you can self reflect on the fact that although you personally may not see it, you never truly know how your audience will take a joke about something as dire as self harm and that you will never have to confront the fact that perhaps your hasty words in a forum about a poorly coded atmospherics simulator caused someone actual physical harm. Big thanks to Wine to being open to discussing the matter further with me and being willing to reach common ground on it.

Here's the thing, not only did you not try to clear it up with him in private, what you did was basically slander him wholesale and say that his very slightly tasteless joke (which was a response to yours and most likely some jab) was in any way the same as your direct assertion that we should find someone and kill them.

Had you just PMed him in private to handle it, no one would be talking about it. Instead, you made him look like he was basically cursing you to die.

+1 to this, you lost any semblance of this being more than some weird vindictive backlash at admins for banning you from the forums when you decided to go the route of admin complaint over an innocuous joke

I am not very concerned with your opinion on the matter.

[sinfulbliss]

I can say with complete fuckin undeniable certainty that you have made far more people want to kill themselves than Wine has through the hateful vitriol you fling around constantly at those unfortunate enough to be on the receiving end. Go write a complaint against yourself for being a hypocritical retard then prescribe yourself 60 lashings you unapologetic victimized manbaby

[conrad]

I can say with complete fuckin undeniable certainty that you have made far more people want to kill themselves than Wine has through the hateful vitriol you fling around constantly at those unfortunate enough to be on the receiving end. Go write a complaint against yourself for being a hypocritical retard then prescribe yourself 60 lashings you unapologetic victimized manbaby

That's a bit excessive.

[sinfulbliss]

I can say with complete fuckin undeniable certainty that you have made far more people want to kill themselves than Wine has through the hateful vitriol you fling around constantly at those unfortunate enough to be on the receiving end. Go write a complaint against yourself for being a hypocritical retard then prescribe yourself 60 lashings you unapologetic victimized manbaby

That's a bit excessive.

“You will know the truth, And the truth will set you free.”

[Super Aggro Crag]

I can say with complete fuckin undeniable certainty that you have made far more people want to kill themselves than Wine has through the hateful vitriol you fling around constantly at those unfortunate enough to be on the receiving end. Go write a complaint against yourself for being a hypocritical retard then prescribe yourself 60 lashings you unapologetic victimized manbaby

When people have told me my pee pee poo poo mad libs have hurt them, I have apologized. I considered the matter done when Wine apologized until you stirred the pot and I felt it necessary to make sure we could reach a common understanding. I hope some day you can develop the emotional maturity to realize that holding onto this much anger because I called you a rude name because of your constant vehement defense of people banned for good reasons is a waste of your mental energy. Until then I will continue putting my feet up in the coffee table of your brain as I reside there rent free and you scroll through 13 years of forum posts trying to find the secret combination of Crag Posts that will get you what you want.

[datorangebottle]

Also can't you only make complaint threads after successful appeals?

Only if the complaint is about a ban.

[sinfulbliss]

I can say with complete fuckin undeniable certainty that you have made far more people want to kill themselves than Wine has through the hateful vitriol you fling around constantly at those unfortunate enough to be on the receiving end. Go write a complaint against yourself for being a hypocritical retard then prescribe yourself 60 lashings you unapologetic victimized manbaby

When people have told me my pee pee poo poo mad libs have hurt them, I have apologized. I considered the matter done when Wine apologized until you stirred the pot and I felt it necessary to make sure we could reach a common understanding. I hope some day you can develop the emotional maturity to realize that holding onto this much anger because I called you a rude name because of your constant vehement defense of people banned for good reasons is a waste of your mental energy. Until then I will continue putting my feet up in the coffee table of your brain as I reside there rent free and you scroll through 13 years of forum posts trying to find the secret combination of Crag Posts that will get you what you want.

No one is going to tell you whether or not you hurt them Crag. They're going to just reply with something equally as vitriolic and then feel bad in silence. Why is it okay to illicit that reaction, but Wine's joke is so off-limits you thought it right to admin complaint? Do you really not see the hypocrisy?

[conrad]

[dirk_mcblade]

Well I think we've got medicated and unmedicated sinfulbliss checked off at least.

[Kendrickorium]

jesus fucking christ