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Any clothing with armor now has scaling slowdown

Post by Longestarmlonglaw » #698652

Right now, armor is meaningless, you can just wear it and have no downsides whatsoever, this is boring and unengaging.
by applying a scaling slowdown based on defensive values, we can make combat altercations more fair and fun.

furthermore, armor slowdown will make armor more meaningful, as the player will have to make a choice between being unarmored but fast or armored but slow. it will give players a choice of sacrificing movespeed for protection, like "good thing i sacrificed my speed for protection, i woulda died if i didnt" and "i shoulda put on that armor vest and give up speed, i wouldnt be dead from that bomb if i did."

armor slowdown will make combat altercations more interesting, say you have an engineer target, you are wearing an armor vest, you try to attack them but they run away, forcing you to discard your armor and pursue them opening up an ambush or trap.

this will give reasons for roles such as security or the captain to not wear their armor as it slows them down, increasing gameplay diversity and making hollowpoints more effective against security or the captain.
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Post by BrolyButterfingers » #698654

Thanks, I hate it.
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Re: Any clothing with armor now has scaling slowdown

Post by NecromancerAnne » #698657

Thanks, I hate it.
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Re: Any clothing with armor now has scaling slowdown

Post by saprasam » #698658

>slowdown kills what would be otherwise good gear
>let's make all armour slow you down!
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Re: Any clothing with armor now has scaling slowdown

Post by CMDR_Gungnir » #698659

Thanks, I hate it.
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Re: Any clothing with armor now has scaling slowdown

Post by Lacran » #698660

most heavier armors and modsuits already slow you down. What would this affect outside of the sec vest?
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Re: Any clothing with armor now has scaling slowdown

Post by TheFinalPotato » #698662

slowdown is basically death in this game. I have recently put a good bit of effort into removing a newb trap that basically just relied on slowdown.
this'd just make that problem worse, seems like a bad idea
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Re: Any clothing with armor now has scaling slowdown

Post by Longestarmlonglaw » #698664

NecromancerAnne wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:44 am Thanks, I hate it.
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Re: Any clothing with armor now has scaling slowdown

Post by Longestarmlonglaw » #698665

Lacran wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:10 am most heavier armors and modsuits already slow you down. What would this affect outside of the sec vest?
Jumpsuits have armor, most exosuits like labcoats have armor, sec jumpsuits and chameleon ones have armor. Some shoes like combat boots have armor too
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Re: Any clothing with armor now has scaling slowdown

Post by Not-Dorsidarf » #698668

Slowdown is un-fun because movement is such a powerful combat multiplier, evading gunshots and melee attacks relies wholly on this.

Changing clothing items to fit a situation sucks because item slots are clothing-dependent and changing clothes means you have to do 52 pickup to re-equip all your other stufff.

dont like this idea.

also whys it in the peanut club instead of Ideas
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Post by Jacquerel » #698676

Not-Dorsidarf wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:19 am also whys it in the peanut club instead of Ideas
Because it's a bait thread by a bait poster and not an idea
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Re: Any clothing with armor now has scaling slowdown

Post by Longestarmlonglaw » #698677

Jacquerel wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:40 am
Not-Dorsidarf wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:19 am also whys it in the peanut club instead of Ideas
Because it's a bait thread by a bait poster and not an idea
What if i made a pull request? would that be bait, or real? and how did you see through my deception?
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Re: Any clothing with armor now has scaling slowdown

Post by dendydoom » #698691

add fatrolling to the swing combat update then lock havel's ring behind sci
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Post by Turbonerd » #698700

Longestarmlonglaw wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:46 am
Jacquerel wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:40 am
Not-Dorsidarf wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:19 am also whys it in the peanut club instead of Ideas
Because it's a bait thread by a bait poster and not an idea
What if i made a pull request? would that be bait, or real? and how did you see through my deception?
You make unproductive bait posts all the time. Boring!
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Post by Misdoubtful » #698701

I feel like people would find this to be suffering. I get that there is no downside really but not sure this is it.
dendydoom wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:53 pm add fatrolling to the swing combat update then lock havel's ring behind sci
How would fat rolling even work in this game?

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Post by RedBaronFlyer » #698703

I read fatrolling and was expecting that you'd crawl on the ground faster than a skinny spaceman if your guy was fat.
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Re: Any clothing with armor now has scaling slowdown

Post by Kendrickorium » #698705

video games prove once again that agility is the best stat to have
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Re: Any clothing with armor now has scaling slowdown

Post by Fren256 » #698718

Jacquerel wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:40 am
Not-Dorsidarf wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:19 am also whys it in the peanut club instead of Ideas
Because it's a bait thread by a bait poster and not an idea
Everything they post is bait, I'm surprised people haven't noticed it yet.
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Post by conrad » #698721

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Post by Scriptis » #698724

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Post by oranges » #698739

I think actually armour is kind of non intuitive for people to use and discover and it would be better to just remove it and focus on block based combat instead.
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Post by Misdoubtful » #698740

oranges wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:04 pm I think actually armour is kind of non intuitive for people to use and discover and it would be better to just remove it and focus on block based combat instead.
Oranges secretly prioritizing fashion over function over here. Wouldn't be a side effect I'd be very upset about seeing.
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Post by EmpressMaia » #698752

bad idea. slowdown is a death sentance
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Post by EmpressMaia » #698753

oranges wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:04 pm I think actually armour is kind of non intuitive for people to use and discover and it would be better to just remove it and focus on block based combat instead.
block like an active block? or the passive block chance some weapons have like swords
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Post by oranges » #698780

active passive blocking is just another goofy unexplained mess
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Post by Itseasytosee2me » #698781

Based, but only if you implement a complicated encumbrance system such as this one: https://www.d20srd.org/srd/carryingCapacity.htm
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Post by NecromancerAnne » #698789

conrad wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:03 pm
Longestarmlonglaw wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:07 am
NecromancerAnne wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:44 am Thanks, I hate it.
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NecromancerAnne wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:09 am
conrad wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:03 pm
Longestarmlonglaw wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:07 am
NecromancerAnne wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:44 am Thanks, I hate it.
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Post by TheFinalPotato » #698809

Archie700 wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:38 am
NecromancerAnne wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:09 am
conrad wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:03 pm
Longestarmlonglaw wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:07 am
NecromancerAnne wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:44 am Thanks, I hate it.
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TheFinalPotato wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:30 am
Archie700 wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:38 am
NecromancerAnne wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:09 am
conrad wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:03 pm
Longestarmlonglaw wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:07 am
NecromancerAnne wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:44 am Thanks, I hate it.
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sinfulbliss wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:07 am
TheFinalPotato wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:30 am
Archie700 wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:38 am
NecromancerAnne wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:09 am
conrad wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:03 pm
Longestarmlonglaw wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:07 am
NecromancerAnne wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:44 am Thanks, I hate it.
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kinnebian wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:50 am
sinfulbliss wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:07 am
TheFinalPotato wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:30 am
Archie700 wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:38 am
NecromancerAnne wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:09 am
conrad wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:03 pm
Longestarmlonglaw wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:07 am
NecromancerAnne wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:44 am Thanks, I hate it.
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dendydoom wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:08 pm
kinnebian wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:50 am
sinfulbliss wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:07 am
TheFinalPotato wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:30 am
Archie700 wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:38 am
NecromancerAnne wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:09 am
conrad wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:03 pm
Longestarmlonglaw wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:07 am
NecromancerAnne wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:44 am Thanks, I hate it.
Tell me why
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Tell me why
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Post by kinnebian » #698844

Longestarmlonglaw wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:13 am Right now, armor is meaningless, you can just wear it and have no downsides whatsoever, this is boring and unengaging.
by applying a scaling slowdown based on defensive values, we can make combat altercations more fair and fun.

furthermore, armor slowdown will make armor more meaningful, as the player will have to make a choice between being unarmored but fast or armored but slow. it will give players a choice of sacrificing movespeed for protection, like "good thing i sacrificed my speed for protection, i woulda died if i didnt" and "i shoulda put on that armor vest and give up speed, i wouldnt be dead from that bomb if i did."

armor slowdown will make combat altercations more interesting, say you have an engineer target, you are wearing an armor vest, you try to attack them but they run away, forcing you to discard your armor and pursue them opening up an ambush or trap.

this will give reasons for roles such as security or the captain to not wear their armor as it slows them down, increasing gameplay diversity and making hollowpoints more effective against security or the captain.
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I think it would be funny. Imagine a world where tiders strip naked for that .2 speed boost
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conrad wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:12 pm
dendydoom wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:08 pm
kinnebian wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:50 am
sinfulbliss wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:07 am
TheFinalPotato wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:30 am
Archie700 wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:38 am
NecromancerAnne wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:09 am
conrad wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:03 pm
Longestarmlonglaw wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:07 am
NecromancerAnne wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:44 am Thanks, I hate it.
Tell me why
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Tell me why
Ain't nothin' but a mistake
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