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Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:30 pm
by technokek

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:52 pm
by Jacquerel
why I should be unbanned:
if you ban or even note me for breaking the rules then it will hurt my chances of appealing bans I received on other codebases after breaking their rules because when they read about my rulebreaking it will give the impression that I broke the rules (which I did)

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:52 pm
by Turbonerd
Haha now everyone knows he will lie in ban appeals. He just made himself look even worse.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:57 pm
by Vekter
People really just need to not put themselves in situations like this. If you see something cool happening, feel free to take a ghost role, but there's zero situations where you can say "oh look something cool is happening", then take the role and immediately run to where it's happening where we won't see that and go "Oh, you're metagaming".

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:28 pm
by EmpressMaia
I thought yobro was perma banned

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:40 pm
by dendydoom
lamest shit i've ever seen. sets up cool encounter for players to stumble upon then this loser metagames it just to try and get the gamer gear. be better than this, it's not hard.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:18 pm
by AnonymousForumUser
why do some people call it manual instead of manuel?

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:38 pm
by Jacquerel
Also ashwalkers are antags so its perfectly fine to powergame as them.
Where did this guy get the idea that antagonists didnt have to follow the server rules dictating knowledge obtained while dead?

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:41 pm
by Sightld2
I mean even outside of that point, like...why would he say this?

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:51 pm
by Kendrickorium
kawoppi wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:18 pm why do some people call it manual instead of manuel?
you have to manually click on the x in the upper right to exit manuel

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:55 pm
by conrad
hell i dont mind really taking the punishment considering how insignificant it is but the note? thats what fucks me.
That note FUCKS

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:05 pm
by TheBibleMelts
why have you fuck this man

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:19 pm
by Jacquerel
always keep digging

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:34 pm
by Turbonerd
EmpressMaia wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:28 pm I thought yobro was perma banned
Yobi is the definition of loser and is probably the guy you're thinking about. This is a different loser.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:38 pm
by Vekter
EmpressMaia wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:28 pm I thought yobro was perma banned
You're thinking of Yobihodazine, whom is better forgotten entirely.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:31 pm
by iwishforducks
why would admins set up something for ash walkers and then be upset that the ash walkers took the bait

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:37 pm
by Jacquerel
Jacquerel wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:19 pm always keep digging
we'll dig our way out any minute now

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:39 pm
by iwishforducks
we can talk about meta gaming all day long but realistically what is the expectation here? realistically, if the ash walkers didn't find the ruin, would admins not have pressured them into finding it? like the end goal is for them to find the ruin.

it tangentially reminds me of the supermatter spider incident, because again, realistically, what is the goal here with the event?

also the lavaland box is literally like two screens wide, the ash walkers would have ended up finding it pretty quickly. again wtf is the goal here if not for them to find it

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:41 pm
by iwishforducks
on second thought i've just realized that there were probably other ash lizards who were already playing for a good while, and the admins were intending to interact with those folks. it's kind of a dick move to spawn in and steal the show like that because High Damage Sword or whatever. i understand now.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:31 pm
by Vekter
He doesn't even really have THAT many notes, like I understand the concern and anxiety over it, but anyone who'd ask me if he should be QC or rule 0 banned would get a big ol' "not really" from me.
iwishforducks wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:39 pm we can talk about meta gaming all day long but realistically what is the expectation here? realistically, if the ash walkers didn't find the ruin, would admins not have pressured them into finding it? like the end goal is for them to find the ruin.
If nobody found it, the admin would have probably given them a hint as to where it was or breadcrumbed them towards it in some way, at which point it wouldn't have been metagaming. I think your insistence that this is some kind of trap kinda says more about your attitude about admins than it does anything that happened here.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:50 pm
by BlueMemesauce
has this guy never played minecraft with xray texture pack
if you just mine straight to the diamonds its obvious
you have to pretend youre just mining normally and happen to stumble across diamonds by luck

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:55 pm
by Jacquerel
- I didn't do the cheating that I clearly said I was about to do in dead chat
- But if I did it would have been fine
- And it's allowed for me to do it
- And you shouldn't note me for it because it's fine to cheat anyway
- Which I didn't do btw
- And if I did you should be grateful that I did

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:26 pm
by Indie-ana Jones
99 percent of miners stop right before reaching the claymores.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:27 pm
by iwishforducks
Vekter wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:31 pm He doesn't even really have THAT many notes, like I understand the concern and anxiety over it, but anyone who'd ask me if he should be QC or rule 0 banned would get a big ol' "not really" from me.
iwishforducks wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:39 pm we can talk about meta gaming all day long but realistically what is the expectation here? realistically, if the ash walkers didn't find the ruin, would admins not have pressured them into finding it? like the end goal is for them to find the ruin.
If nobody found it, the admin would have probably given them a hint as to where it was or breadcrumbed them towards it in some way, at which point it wouldn't have been metagaming. I think your insistence that this is some kind of trap kinda says more about your attitude about admins than it does anything that happened here.
i didn't say it was a trap. i was just saying that it's weird to set up an event and then not expect people to go for it.

but i didn't realize that there were already other ash lizards, which was what the event was intended for, and not some bozo spawning in and swooping the fun from under their noses.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:38 pm
by Turbonerd
BlueMemesauce wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:50 pm has this guy never played minecraft with xray texture pack
if you just mine straight to the diamonds its obvious
you have to pretend youre just mining normally and happen to stumble across diamonds by luck
The more you post, the more suspicious you look.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:31 am
by dendydoom
once upon a time i used to DM d&d for a friend group and they once lamented that they'd never gotten to complete the "classic" modules that everyone talks about. tomb of horrors, white plume mountain, temple of elemental evil, curse of strahd, etc.

so i started running it all for them. i wanted them to experience it fresh and let them enjoy something that could only be enjoyed once before you know the secret and the magic fades away. one of the members of that group started secretly obtaining and reading the pdfs for the modules so they could be the one to "accidentally" stumble on the treasure and "accidentally" solve all the puzzles so they could have the glory and gear. it was such a petty and shitty thing to do, not just to me as someone who was sacrificing her time and effort to plan all this shit but was also usurping the genuine exploration and discovery from the rest of the group who were excited to get to play. it was such an asshole move that i still remember it over a decade later and it still annoys me to think about.

obviously this is not a 1:1 translation of what's happening here but it's the same sense of entitlement that deprived another group of a cool little adventure that someone had gone through the effort to make for them. i really really hate this sort of attitude when it comes to these kinds of games. please don't be so fucking selfish when you're playing a multiplayer game that requires a social contract of trust in each other to not cheat for it to work at all. and definitely don't go all woe-is-me after you get caught about it. have a little bit of decency for goodness' sake.

sorry if i'm popping off hard on this because it feels like i am but genuinely this is the one thing you could do to piss me off more than anything else. i even think archie was being lenient here with just a ghostrole ban.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:39 am
by BlueMemesauce
I can see where he's coming from though. Notes really stress me out, and even though I only have like one, I still stress out about it all the time.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:53 am
by Sightld2
Chat why does he want his note to have LESS context? His proposed re-write looks way worse on him then it does now.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:20 am
by SkyMonster
iwishforducks wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:41 pm It's kind of a dick move to spawn in and steal the show like that because High Damage Sword or whatever. i understand now.
dendydoom wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:31 am it's the same sense of entitlement that deprived another group of a cool little adventure that someone had gone through the effort to make for them. i really really hate this sort of attitude when it comes to these kinds of games. please don't be so fucking selfish when you're playing a multiplayer game that requires a social contract of trust in each other to not cheat for it to work at all. and definitely don't go all woe-is-me after you get caught about it. have a little bit of decency for goodness' sake.
Main Character Syndrome is one of the worst parts of this game.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 8:51 am
by Scriptis
a rule that we all have to learn at some point and then immediately forget how hard it was to learn it in the first place:

how and when to give up tactically retreat

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:00 pm
by Bepis
Yobrocharlie wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:53 am Yea you are right.
It just sucks cause now cowbotty boy will have a reason to deny my next appeal because he goes out of his way to find recent info about me.
"this sucks because I know I won't get (n+1) chances in the future"

if you know someone is on your ass, make sure you're not being a shit

also kudos to them for realizing they'll probably do something to get banned again. I'd look up their history but shit doesn't seem to be working for me

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:22 pm
by Jacquerel
Bepis wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:00 pm
Yobrocharlie wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:53 am Yea you are right.
It just sucks cause now cowbotty boy will have a reason to deny my next appeal because he goes out of his way to find recent info about me.
"this sucks because I know I won't get (n+1) chances in the future"

if you know someone is on your ass, make sure you're not being a shit

also kudos to them for realizing they'll probably do something to get banned again. I'd look up their history but shit doesn't seem to be working for me
Weirdly based on their earlier posts I think they are talking about bans they are appealing on non-tg servers

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:01 pm
by bluedino1025
god, i remember back before his space ban he used to go grab the secret documents from a ruin and try to force centcom to give him even more gamer gear in exchange for them. and this was every round nothing funnier than seeing him harass the captain to let him use the communication console to message centcom for fifteen minutes just to get smited or have interns rob him.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:21 pm
by conrad
dendydoom wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:31 am so i started running it all for them. i wanted them to experience it fresh and let them enjoy something that could only be enjoyed once before you know the secret and the magic fades away. one of the members of that group started secretly obtaining and reading the pdfs for the modules so they could be the one to "accidentally" stumble on the treasure and "accidentally" solve all the puzzles so they could have the glory and gear. it was such a petty and shitty thing to do, not just to me as someone who was sacrificing her time and effort to plan all this shit but was also usurping the genuine exploration and discovery from the rest of the group who were excited to get to play. it was such an asshole move that i still remember it over a decade later and it still annoys me to think about.
We were playing Hoard of the Bitch Queen and this fucker was playing a rogue with a portable hole going to all the rooms with treasure and tucking it in said portable hole.

We ended up rather verbally kicking him and a friend of his (who was a colossal asshat) out and divvying up the treasure he's collected.

THERE WAS SO MUCH SHIT

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:31 pm
by TypicalRig
dendydoom wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:31 am once upon a time i used to DM d&d for a friend group and they once lamented that they'd never gotten to complete the "classic" modules that everyone talks about. tomb of horrors, white plume mountain, temple of elemental evil, curse of strahd, etc.

so i started running it all for them. i wanted them to experience it fresh and let them enjoy something that could only be enjoyed once before you know the secret and the magic fades away. one of the members of that group started secretly obtaining and reading the pdfs for the modules so they could be the one to "accidentally" stumble on the treasure and "accidentally" solve all the puzzles so they could have the glory and gear. it was such a petty and shitty thing to do, not just to me as someone who was sacrificing her time and effort to plan all this shit but was also usurping the genuine exploration and discovery from the rest of the group who were excited to get to play. it was such an asshole move that i still remember it over a decade later and it still annoys me to think about.

obviously this is not a 1:1 translation of what's happening here but it's the same sense of entitlement that deprived another group of a cool little adventure that someone had gone through the effort to make for them. i really really hate this sort of attitude when it comes to these kinds of games. please don't be so fucking selfish when you're playing a multiplayer game that requires a social contract of trust in each other to not cheat for it to work at all. and definitely don't go all woe-is-me after you get caught about it. have a little bit of decency for goodness' sake.

sorry if i'm popping off hard on this because it feels like i am but genuinely this is the one thing you could do to piss me off more than anything else. i even think archie was being lenient here with just a ghostrole ban.
dendy exudes such powerful "writes a long winded backstory for cooking recipe videos" vibes.

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:19 pm
by dendydoom
conrad wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:21 pm We were playing Hoard of the Bitch Queen and this fucker was playing a rogue with a portable hole going to all the rooms with treasure and tucking it in said portable hole.

We ended up rather verbally kicking him and a friend of his (who was a colossal asshat) out and divvying up the treasure he's collected.

THERE WAS SO MUCH SHIT
it's not true d&d unless someone has to be physically restrained from trying to strangle the rogue
TypicalRig wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:31 pm dendy exudes such powerful "writes a long winded backstory for cooking recipe videos" vibes.
i'm not sure how to take this so um thanks maybe? i'm not good at cooking though

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:17 pm
by Kendrickorium
dendydoom wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:31 am once upon a time i used to DM d&d for a friend group and they once lamented that they'd never gotten to complete the "classic" modules that everyone talks about. tomb of horrors, white plume mountain, temple of elemental evil, curse of strahd, etc.

so i started running it all for them. i wanted them to experience it fresh and let them enjoy something that could only be enjoyed once before you know the secret and the magic fades away. one of the members of that group started secretly obtaining and reading the pdfs for the modules so they could be the one to "accidentally" stumble on the treasure and "accidentally" solve all the puzzles so they could have the glory and gear. it was such a petty and shitty thing to do, not just to me as someone who was sacrificing her time and effort to plan all this shit but was also usurping the genuine exploration and discovery from the rest of the group who were excited to get to play. it was such an asshole move that i still remember it over a decade later and it still annoys me to think about.

obviously this is not a 1:1 translation of what's happening here but it's the same sense of entitlement that deprived another group of a cool little adventure that someone had gone through the effort to make for them. i really really hate this sort of attitude when it comes to these kinds of games. please don't be so fucking selfish when you're playing a multiplayer game that requires a social contract of trust in each other to not cheat for it to work at all. and definitely don't go all woe-is-me after you get caught about it. have a little bit of decency for goodness' sake.

sorry if i'm popping off hard on this because it feels like i am but genuinely this is the one thing you could do to piss me off more than anything else. i even think archie was being lenient here with just a ghostrole ban.
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Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 5:19 am
by zergking
This is the same goy who will rush Holodeck Claymores the second shit starts to go down and then throws a fit when the holodecks disabled. Give him no mercy

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:57 am
by Zeckle
you're still calling everyone you don't like goy?

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:46 am
by Bepis
Jacquerel wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:22 pm
Bepis wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:00 pm
Yobrocharlie wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:53 am Yea you are right.
It just sucks cause now cowbotty boy will have a reason to deny my next appeal because he goes out of his way to find recent info about me.
"this sucks because I know I won't get (n+1) chances in the future"

if you know someone is on your ass, make sure you're not being a shit

also kudos to them for realizing they'll probably do something to get banned again. I'd look up their history but shit doesn't seem to be working for me
Weirdly based on their earlier posts I think they are talking about bans they are appealing on non-tg servers
I got that, I was thinking regardless of server they know they'll probably fuck it up

Re: Ghostly out of body experience has an unexpected result for local lizard

Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:39 am
by Annihilite111
Indie-ana Jones wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:26 pm 99 percent of miners stop right before reaching the claymores.
Is that fucking Hatsune-Migo?