local admin bans over 40 people in one round

[Striders13]

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[Donglesplonge]

this is absolutely peak science gameplay and i will not be convinced otherwise

even trying to view the logs screencap that archie posted started lagging my browser its just so good

[GPeckman]

There are exactly 912 lines in the attack log snippet archie posted. I don't envy whichever admin has to review all that.

[iwishforducks]

lmfao. good title btw made me laugh

[Shellton(Mario)]

Frankly, long over due half the time i see seth they are fine or coping and seething over some dumb nothing burger shit.

[saprasam]

it was a long time coming but now there’s no content cash cow

[EmpressMaia]

I think spawning as 40 golems in one round is enough for a ban tbh

[Indie-ana Jones]

Here's what I'm listening to right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwSCr5d0aaM

As for the ban, I'm equal parts distraught and amused of how fucking stupid spawning in as more than 40 golems is. Like how

[Turbonerd]

Seth Deces is a rules lawyering asshole. Fucker spawned in as 40 golems he made (he definitely was planning on being an obnoxious griefer with the amount of golems he made), and is now trying to paint the players bad for "improper escalation" against the golem cunt he is. No one is willingly going to arrest at least 40 golems that are being used to grief. Kill them all. Golems are cunts.

[Jacquerel]

rip seth ill miss how completely impossible it was to ever convince you that you were wrong
really funny and unambiguous way to get yourself permaed

now who will be the champion for spiders...

[conrad]

"I have felt an increasing hostility of administration towards me" elaborated and expanded sounds like "I keep yelling at people on the street and throwing pebbles at cars and sometimes I key my neighbours car and the police keeps harassing me for no reason dosent make sense now I'm arrested cos I took 40 dumps on my neighbourhood communal garden"

oranges keeps calling people getting permabanned and it keeps happening.

[Pepper]

this the most seth thing ever

[TheRex9001]

He got arrested, ghosted to take a nearby golem, started shoving the officer arresting his dnr self

[dendydoom]

most peaceful greenshift behaviour

[Ziiro]

He got arrested, ghosted to take a nearby golem, started shoving the officer arresting his dnr self

incredible, next level shittery.

[Imitates-The-Lizards]

He got arrested, ghosted to take a nearby golem, started shoving the officer arresting his dnr self

Wait, actually?!?

No shot this gets lifted then, that's the most OOC ghost abusive thing i've ever heard of.

Wonder if admins will press for a pre-meditation point too, else why would he have made 40 fucking golems in advance?

[TheRex9001]

He got arrested, ghosted to take a nearby golem, started shoving the officer arresting his dnr self

Wait, actually?!?

No shot this gets lifted then, that's the most OOC ghost abusive thing i've ever heard of.

Wonder if admins will press for a pre-meditation point too, else why would he have made 40 fucking golems in advance?

Thats what I think from logs, its really funny

[blackdav123]

remove grief rocks already

[Misdoubtful]

Lmao what the fuck

[dragomagol]

He got arrested, ghosted to take a nearby golem, started shoving the officer arresting his dnr self

Spaced out to make it more readable and bolded to show the secoff rex was talking about

[2023-11-05 05:42:33.822] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Golem (329)) attacked Heyitsohjay/(Wilson Rash) with spear (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 8.9) (Starboard Primary Hallway (181,131,2))
[2023-11-05 05:42:35.945] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Golem (329)) has thrown the spear (Starboard Primary Hallway (179,130,2))
[2023-11-05 05:42:36.015] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Golem (329)) threw and hit Heyitsohjay/(Wilson Rash) with the spear (NEWHP: -17.8) (Starboard Primary Hallway (179,130,2))
[2023-11-05 05:42:44.764] GAME-SAY: Hoolny/(Golem (329)) "DUDE" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (170,131,2))
[2023-11-05 05:42:46.352] GAME-SAY: Hoolny/(Golem (329)) "WE ARE ON TEH SAME" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (170,131,2))
[2023-11-05 05:42:46.763] GAME-SAY: Hoolny/(Golem (329)) "SIDE" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (170,131,2))
[2023-11-05 05:42:50.738] GAME-SAY: Hoolny/(Golem (329)) "theyve been killing our kin" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (170,131,2))
[2023-11-05 05:42:51.839] GAME-SAY: Hoolny/(Golem (329)) "cant you see" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (170,131,2))
[2023-11-05 05:43:00.445] GAME-SAY: Hoolny/(Golem (329)) "no you dont" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (171,130,2))
[2023-11-05 05:43:01.734] GAME-SAY: Hoolny/(Golem (329)) "you serve" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (171,130,2))
[2023-11-05 05:43:04.156] GAME-SAY: Hoolny/(Golem (329)) "seth deces" (Fore Central Primary Hallway (171,130,2))

[2023-11-05 05:43:07.709] ATTACK: Excalibot/(Justice Koster) stun attacked Hoolny/(Golem (329)) with the police baton (NEWHP: 63.6) (Starboard Primary Hallway (175,130,2))
[2023-11-05 05:43:10.761] ATTACK: Heyitsohjay/(Wilson Rash) stun attacked Hoolny/(Golem (329)) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 63.6) (Starboard Primary Hallway (175,129,2))
[2023-11-05 05:43:11.694] ATTACK: Heyitsohjay/(Wilson Rash) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (329)) with stun baton (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 54.6) (Starboard Primary Hallway (175,129,2))
[2023-11-05 05:43:12.458] ATTACK: Heyitsohjay/(Wilson Rash) attacked Hoolny/(Golem (329)) with stun baton (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 45.6) (Starboard Primary Hallway (175,129,2))

[2023-11-05 05:43:13.057] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: Hoolny/(Golem (329)) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer
[2023-11-05 05:43:13.080] GAME: Hoolny/(Golem (329)) Client Hoolny/(Golem (329)) has taken ownership of mob Golem (329)(/mob/dead/observer) (Starboard Primary Hallway (174,129,2))
[2023-11-05 05:43:14.564] GAME: Hoolny/(Golem (329)) became a a servant golem. (Starboard Primary Hallway (175,129,2))
[2023-11-05 05:43:14.627] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: Hoolny/(Golem (13)) was assigned to a /mob/living/carbon/human
[2023-11-05 05:43:14.644] GAME: Hoolny/(Golem (13)) Client Hoolny/(Golem (13)) has taken ownership of mob Golem (13)(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Starboard Primary Hallway (182,130,2))
[2023-11-05 05:43:14.647] GAME: Hoolny/(Golem (13)) has been enslaved to *no key*/(Seth Deces). (Starboard Primary Hallway (182,130,2))

[2023-11-05 05:43:16.116] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Golem (13)) shoved Heyitsohjay/(Wilson Rash) into Golem (329) (NEWHP: 18) (Starboard Primary Hallway (176,129,2))
[2023-11-05 05:43:17.415] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Golem (13)) kicks Heyitsohjay/(Wilson Rash) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 18) (Starboard Primary Hallway (176,129,2))
[2023-11-05 05:43:17.416] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Golem (13)) shoved Heyitsohjay/(Wilson Rash) into Golem (329) (NEWHP: 18) (Starboard Primary Hallway (176,129,2))
[2023-11-05 05:43:17.667] ATTACK: Robustitron/(Jimmy Little) shoved Hoolny/(Golem (13)) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100) (Starboard Primary Hallway (176,130,2))
[2023-11-05 05:43:19.992] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Golem (13)) attempted to handcuff Heyitsohjay/(Wilson Rash) (NEWHP: 10) (Starboard Primary Hallway (174,129,2))
[2023-11-05 05:43:20.148] ATTACK: Hoolny/(Golem (13)) failed to handcuff Heyitsohjay/(Wilson Rash) (NEWHP: 10) (Starboard Primary Hallway (175,129,2))

Lol

[dragomagol]

I will now reference each and every single golem and how the conflict started

Convenient how 13 was left out of this list

EDIT: Just noticed "I was planning on doing every single instance but they all probably go all around the same and my computer keeps lagging looking at logs and my sanity cannot take it."
Probably should edit that first bit of text then

[Vekter]

Omega went:


I've never seen a better case for removing golems.

[Capsandi]

This title sucks, should have been something about hiding behind seven proxies

[Vekter]

This title sucks, should have been something about hiding behind seven proxies

I was gonna do "Golem Tide World Wide" so this is objectively better.

[Omega_DarkPotato]

i cant believe the admin cabal did this.

I'm gonna let down the peanutters by saying that there were some snarky quote responses in my first draft of the response I had that didn't make it through like saying "ok" to "i don't think this is worth a perma ban" or "yeah" to "I'm getting permabanned for (misrepresentation of events)"

[Ziiro]

I've never seen a better case for removing golems.

I kind of agree with you but I also think that using a player who willfully ignores the social contract of the game and exploiting it to an insane end isn't a good metric of it.

To put another way: Hoolny's behavior with borgs would be a good reason to remove them, because he did the same metagaming shit there too. Hell, if we use one bad actor as the example, we may as well get rid of all vectors for re-entering a round.

[Jacquerel]

We could definitely make a hamfisted fix to put like a 5 minute cooldown per ckey on taking a golem shell or something but frankly it's probably better to just have admins clean up people who are doing obvious shit like this.

[Imaginos]

I can't believe Seth spawned as forty golems. He spawned as 40 golems! That's as much as four tens! And that's terrible.

[Cheshify]

[MooCow12]

This always happens on greenshifts where it turns into a golem vs security or crew war due to a minor conflict that gets self perpetuated. Ignoring the ban itself I think its kinda funny that you can spawn in as a golem in immediate danger, i would personally make it so you cant become a shell that is being observed by someone just to avoid those moments where you spawn in, get immediately attacked or see someone attacked, and then join in the conflict, its confusing on what you can and cannot do or act on based on what you see on your initial spawning in.

[conrad]

I was doing the exact same thing and it kills me you beat me to it.

[Cheshify]

I'm just stronger

[Boot]

So that's why he's been in xenobio. Rip in peace Seth you massive cunt.

[Vekter]

I've never seen a better case for removing golems.

I kind of agree with you but I also think that using a player who willfully ignores the social contract of the game and exploiting it to an insane end isn't a good metric of it.

To put another way: Hoolny's behavior with borgs would be a good reason to remove them, because he did the same metagaming shit there too. Hell, if we use one bad actor as the example, we may as well get rid of all vectors for re-entering a round.

I should say that my comment was mostly sarcasm, there was more implied. I should've said "I've never seen a better case for removing golems, which make sense because there aren't many." I'm like 110% for keeping them.

[CPTANT]

Honestly ghosting out of being arrested is already turd behaviour.

[Thaumic]

My experience with Seth was trying to do the abductor surgery on him while he was a ninja, he immediately exploded and cried in deadsay that we were just gonna take his ninja loot

[Shellton(Mario)]

My experience with Seth was trying to do the abductor surgery on him while he was a ninja, he immediately exploded and cried in deadsay that we were just gonna take his ninja loot

Pretty much all you need to see

[oranges]

I personally agree with the golem removal.

Make them a roundstart species instead. (this is why i made htem more interesting)

[Donglesplonge]

its agonizing to know that at one point golems were even easier to abuse properly but its a great prospect that if seth were to have been able to abuse those golems it would've been an even better show for everyone who's not the admin who'd eventually have to perma him

i've never seen seth argue over anything in good faith so maybe he should use his new downtime to become a lawyer he'd probably get rich real fast
or maybe he'd just be barred from every court he enters who knows

[Cheshify]

I personally agree with the golem removal.

Make them a roundstart species instead. (this is why i made htem more interesting)

Is the mineral economy ready for golems being roundstart? They'll eat all the precious iron we need to make powergame mechs to kill antags.

[TheLoLSwat]

does this peanut thread stay up because seth is slightly more of a lolcow with his (clearly unhealthy) ss13 addiction than xpokee?

[TheBibleMelts]

does this peanut thread stay up because seth is slightly more of a lolcow with his (clearly unhealthy) ss13 addiction than xpokee?

nope

[TheBibleMelts]

we're so fucking back

[dirk_mcblade]

I disagree with you closing this one to begin with

[MooCow12]

security players seemed sympathetic over me / seth griefing them that round but they were also surprised seth played as so many golems xd

[Constellado]

I was doing the exact same thing and it kills me you beat me to it.

Even though chesh beat you to it, you added more to it by adding the wonderful images of golems and seth to it.
No wonder it took 5 minutes longer!

Also: we are back!!