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[Vekter]

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More "people doing stupid shit because they don't like the map". Even if they didn't actually do it, I think this falls under the "giving someone a bomb and telling them not to set it off" precedents.

E: Also why the flying fuck does Birdshot start with a gorilla cube box in maints

[Archie700]

Also, mob gorillas take a lot of punishment (it started at 220 HP), can delimb with a punch (crippling attacks) and can wallstun.

[Bawhoppennn]

Vekter don't be lame, you know the whole point of Birdboat, and now Birdshot, is to be a deathtrap. The map has already been sanitized to high water in terms of safety, don't scrub it any more please. Just put them in a wall or something. Or if you don't want it to be an every round occurence, make it an effect spawner where it's like a 50% chance of spawning. If someone spawns gorillas when they shouldn't, they can get a good ban just like if they use a gold slime core when they shouldn't.

[Vekter]

Vekter don't be lame, you know the whole point of Birdboat, and now Birdshot, is to be a deathtrap. The map has already been sanitized to high water in terms of safety, don't scrub it any more please. Just put them in a wall or something. Or if you don't want it to be an every round occurence, make it an effect spawner where it's like a 50% chance of spawning. If someone spawns gorillas when they shouldn't, they can get a good ban just like if they use a gold slime core when they shouldn't.

Also, mob gorillas take a lot of punishment (it started at 220 HP), can delimb with a punch (crippling attacks) and can wallstun.

No, I'm removing it and I'll put something else interesting in its place. Players shouldn't have roundstart access to a 220 hp mob that can fuck someone up by looking at them. Birdboat can be a death trap all it wants, that death should be something a player experiences organically, not something another player has to do for the sole purpose of grief.

[Jacquerel]

We don't normally like any but the most trivial of traitor uplink items to exist in space ruins let alone in an easily accessed area of a station map

[zergking]

if we remove secret fun from the map because it's discovered we should put something else in and not tell anyone >:)

I intend to. I'm definitely removing this because apparently it spawns in fucking public tool storage.

Need suggestions. Someone said a bee cube or super pointy tape, I'm thinking those sound good.

FERAL CATS

I CAN'T CODE THE FUCKING CAT GRENADES BECAUSE CATS HAVEN'T BEEN MADE SIMPLE MOBS YET AND MY SMOOTH WET CAVEMAN BRAIN CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT

Rabbit cube

[GPeckman]

FERAL CATS

I CAN'T CODE THE FUCKING CAT GRENADES BECAUSE CATS HAVEN'T BEEN MADE SIMPLE MOBS YET AND MY SMOOTH WET CAVEMAN BRAIN CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT

I don't think it should actually matter whether or not its a simplemob or basicmob.

If gorilla cubes are like this:

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/obj/item/food/monkeycube/gorilla
	name = "gorilla cube"
	desc = "A Waffle Co. brand gorilla cube. Now with extra molecules!"
	bite_consumption = 20
	food_reagents = list(
		/datum/reagent/monkey_powder = 30,
		/datum/reagent/medicine/strange_reagent = 5,
	)
	tastes = list("the jungle" = 1, "bananas" = 1, "jimmies" = 1)
	spawned_mob = /mob/living/basic/gorilla

Then just doing

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spawned_mob = /mob/living/simple_animal/pet/cat

would make it spawn cats. They probably wouldn't actually be hostile though.

[Vekter]

:words:

There's a specific item from Bee (I think) that's a grenade that spawns multiple feral cats that go apeshit and chase down whoever's nearby. They're hilarious and I want to port it to /tg/, but they use simplemob cats, which we don't have yet. I'm not so much a coder as I am a caveman smashing pieces of code together not unlike rocks, so the best I can do is wait for someone to make cats a simplemob then port the existing code.

[chocolate_bickie]

:words:

There's a specific item from Bee (I think) that's a grenade that spawns multiple feral cats that go apeshit and chase down whoever's nearby. They're hilarious and I want to port it to /tg/, but they use simplemob cats, which we don't have yet. I'm not so much a coder as I am a caveman smashing pieces of code together not unlike rocks, so the best I can do is wait for someone to make cats a simplemob then port the existing code.

Can't you just spawn a gorilla with the sprite of a cat?

[Vekter]

:words:

There's a specific item from Bee (I think) that's a grenade that spawns multiple feral cats that go apeshit and chase down whoever's nearby. They're hilarious and I want to port it to /tg/, but they use simplemob cats, which we don't have yet. I'm not so much a coder as I am a caveman smashing pieces of code together not unlike rocks, so the best I can do is wait for someone to make cats a simplemob then port the existing code.

Can't you just spawn a gorilla with the sprite of a cat?

The AI and stats are different.

[TheRex9001]

:words:

There's a specific item from Bee (I think) that's a grenade that spawns multiple feral cats that go apeshit and chase down whoever's nearby. They're hilarious and I want to port it to /tg/, but they use simplemob cats, which we don't have yet. I'm not so much a coder as I am a caveman smashing pieces of code together not unlike rocks, so the best I can do is wait for someone to make cats a simplemob then port the existing code.

Cats are simplemobs

[Vekter]

:words:

There's a specific item from Bee (I think) that's a grenade that spawns multiple feral cats that go apeshit and chase down whoever's nearby. They're hilarious and I want to port it to /tg/, but they use simplemob cats, which we don't have yet. I'm not so much a coder as I am a caveman smashing pieces of code together not unlike rocks, so the best I can do is wait for someone to make cats a simplemob then port the existing code.

Cats are simplemobs

They weren't last time I checked, it's possible they were recently changed. I'll look into it.

[Jacquerel]

The problem is that you keep saying "simple mob" when you mean "basic mob"
I think the PR to make them into basic mobs was merged literally today

[Vekter]

The problem is that you keep saying "simple mob" when you mean "basic mob"
I think the PR to make them into basic mobs was merged literally today

Yes, thank you, I'm an idiot

[Itseasytosee2me]

[Jacquerel]

we're almost done killing the `simple_animal` type actually, the easy gbp is leaving
we need to invent Normal Mobs asap

[iwishforducks]

ok but could we not have called it like basic2 or something to at least indicate that they're better than simple? i keep getting the two mixed up constantly

[GPeckman]

Easy gbp is a bit of an exaggeration. Basicmob refactors are almost always pretty complex. If you want easy gbp, just find a few easy bugs to fix. Those are easier and will likely never run out.

[Jacquerel]

Easy gbp is a bit of an exaggeration. Basicmob refactors are almost always pretty complex. If you want easy gbp, just find a few easy bugs to fix. Those are easier and will likely never run out.

I mean I know I personally did a significant number of them
The real joke is that it's a gbp farm purely for me and ben10omintrix

A lot of them were really smooth for the record we just got artsy with others and now there's no easy ones left

[MooCow12]

We don't normally like any but the most trivial of traitor uplink items to exist in space ruins let alone in an easily accessed area of a station map

Throwing weapons box

Contraband locker


Neither of those are trivial and are often powergamed due to being exceptionally powerful roundstart available weapons allowing you to basically remove an antag or two from the round with overwhelming firepower.


They just arn't (guaranteed) to spawn but the chance is relatively high.

[RedBaronFlyer]

the gorillas were the highlight of every birdshot round tbh, now it's just a shit map (BUT IRONICALLY GUYS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOGSHIT GET IT? HAHAHA! IT'S SUPPOSED TO SUCK!)

[TheBibleMelts]

i liked the gorilla cubes being there

[zergking]

the gorillas were the highlight of every birdshot round tbh, now it's just a shit map (BUT IRONICALLY GUYS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOGSHIT GET IT? HAHAHA! IT'S SUPPOSED TO SUCK!)

Cope about it in your box

[saprasam]

i think gorillas in earshot of somebody using the smile emote should enter rage mode
you know, to tear their face off

[Dax Dupont]

The real problem is birdshot, we should permaban it instead