two nutters RR'd from /tg/station community by MSO

[BonChoi]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Forum poster newbie makes shitty thread title

[RaveRadbury]

Also even if this particular instance is not an unreasonable ban, and those two actually did do something legitimately shitty, you have to admit there's been far too many problematic drama bans in the past. This looked worryingly like another one of those at first glance.

[TheFinalPotato]

Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...
(Before anyone who claims "It was COORDINATED HARASSMENT"... trying to claim that a few flippant remarks about dissenting against the admin team's opinion, is harassment... is ridiculous)

In all sincerity, this trend is so common at this point over the past 5 years, that it's really made it hard to get invested in the community the same way as in the past. There's always going to be drama, shit-flinging, and grudges in any online gaming community (believe me, that's always been an issue here), but I really think certain admins are doing no favors to the health of this community by letting this problem continue to happen time after time.

And yeah, honestly I feel bad making this post. But I feel I need to be candid here about what I keep seeing as a recurring issue.

Don't be needlessly reductive challenge difficulty level impossible.

I've seen bits and pieces (I can't see the admin subforums but I can see screenshots/shit they discuss about it) and s shitty. Doesn't really matter cause mso is impossible to convince and at some point we are all (not me tho) just living under his thumb.
I get the urge for clarity it's rooted in how this community is run but like, they got banned for intentionally making admin's lives hell it seems kinda cruel to go "nuh uh" in response with no evidence either way.

Anyway forum posting is dumb go fix some code or like post on 4chan or somethin nothing said here will amount to anything but upsetting the people you say it to.
I miss the hut at least back them we all accepted it was garbage.

[Bawhoppennn]

Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...
(Before anyone who claims "It was COORDINATED HARASSMENT"... trying to claim that a few flippant remarks about dissenting against the admin team's opinion, is harassment... is ridiculous)

In all sincerity, this trend is so common at this point over the past 5 years, that it's really made it hard to get invested in the community the same way as in the past. There's always going to be drama, shit-flinging, and grudges in any online gaming community (believe me, that's always been an issue here), but I really think certain admins are doing no favors to the health of this community by letting this problem continue to happen time after time.

And yeah, honestly I feel bad making this post. But I feel I need to be candid here about what I keep seeing as a recurring issue.

Don't be needlessly reductive challenge difficulty level impossible.

I've seen bits and pieces (I can't see the admin subforums but I can see screenshots/shit they discuss about it) and s shitty. Doesn't really matter cause mso is impossible to convince and at some point we are all (not me tho) just living under his thumb.
I get the urge for clarity it's rooted in how this community is run but like, they got banned for intentionally making admin's lives hell it seems kinda cruel to go "nuh uh" in response with no evidence either way.

Anyway forum posting is dumb go fix some code or like post on 4chan or somethin nothing said here will amount to anything but upsetting the people you say it to.
I miss the hut at least back them we all accepted it was garbage.

Certainly my post was meant to be bombastic to make a point. One that is probably moot now, but was trying to reflect a bigger issue that I do think has some validity. People do very often (not even on ss13) blow up problems, like someone having somewhat a shit attitude which they personally hate, and then twist/distort those attitudes into becoming perceived horrific offenses that can be used as reasons to get them kicked out/punished in places. For here, I probably didn't give it enough grace, and I definitely did skim past a few replies in this thread that might've made me more hesitant to post (I thought the victim was the whole admin team based off the explanation and ban reason, not 1 specific actual individual). However, aside from this individual situation, that general problem, I think a lot of us have had a creeping frustration about it happening, which desperately wants to boil over. This case just looked like (even if it actually was not) another example of that, at least to me. Anyways I try not to get involved, but that concept struck enough of a nerve to make me want to post something dramatic. And Player's Club is only officially 1 step above the Hut's waste grade, I believe.

[Fikou]

Also even if this particular instance is not an unreasonable ban, and those two actually did do something legitimately shitty, you have to admit there's been far too many problematic drama bans in the past. This looked worryingly like another one of those at first glance.

[TheRex9001]

Lacking full info and all that, but whatever they did MSO thought it worthy of a blacklisting. This isn't some QC ban or a permaban, its a blacklisting. Until more info is shown I will trust in the actions of the people who have the full information.

[Armhulen]

Also even if this particular instance is not an unreasonable ban, and those two actually did do something legitimately shitty, you have to admit there's been far too many problematic drama bans in the past. This looked worryingly like another one of those at first glance.

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Omg fikou this is just like digital circus because you have to keep being headmin and cant escape so you're going all crazy!!!! it is so beautiful the parallels between media and experience

[mrmelbert]

Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...

Sorry to say but anyone who willingly takes part in a peanut threat is by definition terminally online, it doesn't matter how much grass you touch.

[kinnebian]

Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...

Sorry to say but anyone who willingly takes part in a peanut threat is by definition terminally online, it doesn't matter how much grass you touch.

no!!

[Bepis]

guess I'm glad that Pepper wasn't voted headmin

[Imitates-The-Lizards]

Seems the headmin team has weighed in with their own permaban on top of the blacklist. My only question is, if there were several other people in this metacord harrassment server, why were only sinful and pepper banned for it?

[kinnebian]

triple ban

[kinnebian]

My only question is, if there were several other people in this metacord harrassment server, why were only sinful and pepper banned for it?

Im wondering the same, it is possible they only got temp bans?

[conrad]

Seems the headmin team has weighed in with their own permaban on top of the blacklist. My only question is, if there were several other people in this metacord harrassment server, why were only sinful and pepper banned for it?

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I would assume it's the same thing as the cat metacord where different levels of involvement meant different levels of punishment, and only permanent bans appear on public bans.

Either that or TBM fell asleep banning people.

E: I forgot, AlamoTurtle was also banned.

[datorangebottle]

Seems the headmin team has weighed in with their own permaban on top of the blacklist. My only question is, if there were several other people in this metacord harrassment server, why were only sinful and pepper banned for it?

Due to your extensive history, and receiving explicit proof of the above actions being your goals, we do not believe you are in this community in good faith or good will.

Probably this bit, here.

[Itseasytosee2me]

You either die a crew member or live long enough to enough to see yourself become an antagonist.

[TypicalRig]

players feeling entitled to further information for a 2d spaceman game ban vs admins thinking going "just trust me bro" will work

pass me the popcorn

[NoxVS]

Seems the headmin team has weighed in with their own permaban on top of the blacklist. My only question is, if there were several other people in this metacord harrassment server, why were only sinful and pepper banned for it?

sinfullban.png

Could just be there weren't any punishments handed out to bystanders this time around. It's not like meta issues where simply observing it is breaking the rules, so I don't think there's an obligation for people witnessing it happening to do something about it / get away from it if they aren't actively participating.

[CMDR_Gungnir]

Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...

Sorry to say but anyone who willingly takes part in a peanut threat is by definition terminally online, it doesn't matter how much grass you touch.

But...but that includes you...

AND ME NOW-

[cSeal]

Seems the headmin team has weighed in with their own permaban on top of the blacklist. My only question is, if there were several other people in this metacord harrassment server, why were only sinful and pepper banned for it?

sinfullban.png

Two admins being deadmind, one of them being banned and another player being permad are also related to this according to the ten million vague posts coming in from people In The Know(tm) on the discord
Of course the fact they did it in a metacord doesnt mean the entire thing was a harassment hub, its probably just something those two specifically said shit about idfk

[Timonk]

I actually don't miss either of them anymore

[8bot]

i don't get it guys why are most of our servers dead for most of the day? i don't get it duhh??? GUH?!?!?!?

in seriousness what's been said itt about slash and burn shit is completely true. permabans and the like really are handed out like hotcakes and the server suffers for it; they mostly seem to be fueled by spite and anger from the jannies too, like they're passing down some divine judgment from providence or whatever the fuck
the objective shift in server culture over the last 2-3 years (not that shifts don't happen and haven't happened naturally, just speaking from what i observed as somebody in the thick of it) used permabans as a cudgel - one person gets banned, their circle feels unwelcome, stops playing. thing is, there are plenty of jannies that see that and say "good" not because they think the server's better for their absence, but because they're making somebody they don't like suffer.

there's lots of anger on both sides (inb4 disingenuous responses saying they're not mad) and tension, and in situations where it's admins vs. players the players kind of just have to leave. and the admins hate those particular players, so they're happy to see them go.

it's very sad to witness.

[kinnebian]

i don't get it guys why are most of our servers dead for most of the day? i don't get it duhh??? GUH?!?!?!?

in seriousness what's been said itt about slash and burn shit is completely true. permabans and the like really are handed out like hotcakes and the server suffers for it; they mostly seem to be fueled by spite and anger from the jannies too, like they're passing down some divine judgment from providence or whatever the fuck
the objective shift in server culture over the last 2-3 years (not that shifts don't happen and haven't happened naturally, just speaking from what i observed as somebody in the thick of it) used permabans as a cudgel - one person gets banned, their circle feels unwelcome, stops playing. thing is, there are plenty of jannies that see that and say "good" not because they think the server's better for their absence, but because they're making somebody they don't like suffer.

there's lots of anger on both sides (inb4 disingenuous responses saying they're not mad) and tension, and in situations where it's admins vs. players the players kind of just have to leave. and the admins hate those particular players, so they're happy to see them go.

it's very sad to witness.

i think this is one of the worst takes ive seen

[Jacquerel]

I just imagined the tgstation admins making a little kitten cry and it made me feel sad, its so awful how this happens

[kieth4]

Seems the headmin team has weighed in with their own permaban on top of the blacklist. My only question is, if there were several other people in this metacord harrassment server, why were only sinful and pepper banned for it?

sinfullban.png

Two admins being deadmind, one of them being banned and another player being permad are also related to this according to the ten million vague posts coming in from people In The Know(tm) on the discord
Of course the fact they did it in a metacord doesnt mean the entire thing was a harassment hub, its probably just something those two specifically said shit about idfk

He said 3 admins were lost regarding this so I wonder who tf the third involved is

[Fikou]

i don't get it guys why are most of our servers dead for most of the day? i don't get it duhh??? GUH?!?!?!?

who are you quoting?

[Constellado]

i don't get it guys why are most of our servers dead for most of the day? i don't get it duhh??? GUH?!?!?!?

in seriousness what's been said itt about slash and burn shit is completely true. permabans and the like really are handed out like hotcakes and the server suffers for it; they mostly seem to be fueled by spite and anger from the jannies too, like they're passing down some divine judgment from providence or whatever the fuck
the objective shift in server culture over the last 2-3 years (not that shifts don't happen and haven't happened naturally, just speaking from what i observed as somebody in the thick of it) used permabans as a cudgel - one person gets banned, their circle feels unwelcome, stops playing. thing is, there are plenty of jannies that see that and say "good" not because they think the server's better for their absence, but because they're making somebody they don't like suffer.

there's lots of anger on both sides (inb4 disingenuous responses saying they're not mad) and tension, and in situations where it's admins vs. players the players kind of just have to leave. and the admins hate those particular players, so they're happy to see them go.

it's very sad to witness.

i think this is one of the worst takes ive seen

I dunno I feel like he has *some* good points in there. Mainly the parts about how people will leave because of these bans, which isn't always a good thing.

(the bans seem justified though)

[Justice12354]

players feeling entitled to further information for a 2d spaceman game ban vs admins thinking going "just trust me bro" will work

pass me the popcorn

Yeah, this is kinda pointless. We ain't going anywhere until/unless the Headmins/MSO post more evidence

[Cobby]

i hope im next at this point. i havent even done anything but i hope they find something to get me banned. make something up for all i care. if they're gonna go down the line banning deadminning and blacklisting all my friends then whats the fucking point of being here. waiting to see who's next to go? hanging out with everyone celebrating them being gone? i fucking hate this

yup pretty sad

MSO is known for making quick decision banning so i don't even blame him

after getting some details from sinful i can say that (if these details are true) that the current headmin team is absolutely fucking bonkers.
like spending hours of their time digging up enough information to ban people because they are literal fucking drama vampires bonkers. (this includes the recent admin deadminning and sun catton permaing)

I agree with the extent of searching for something like this being a bit nuts and silly but if the ban reason is remotely true that’s equally mentally ill and pathetic in the course of obsessing over a 2d space game. That said it’s more likely someone prompted them to look there, I want to believe someone wasn’t just reading a convo of a server they weren’t in looking for something to nail ppl on for hours on end.

[TheLoLSwat]

Ok here’s how it went down (probably not 100% accurate as I am a secondary source but mostly)

Ok imagine two people in a bar, talking rowdy about a bad (recent) ban

Now, imagine one of the bar patrons calling the cops because they believe they don’t enjoy it

The cops kick down the door to find our two people, along with others in the bar (including other cops)

The police use Chinese water torture on the other officers (this is a joke)

The police then demand the bar security footage (most/all of it).
Using that footage, they were able to pursue deadmins, retirements, permabans(for metagrudge) and blacklists.

If any of this is TMI it can be deleted but just to help clear some of the confusion. I called the ban fair (in an “I guess” way) bc it makes sense why the bans happened objectively, I just see it as heavy handed (disclaimer though: I see a lot of bans as such). It’s easy to let real hatred through when dooming, and I imagine sinful and pepper let a bit too much hatred slip while dooming a while ago which was revealed, along with the cops joining in which is a very bad look, sun catton was picked up as a sidequest for a 100% run on this wave too

I don’t think I can talk about why it was a blacklist specifically, but it seems more like a technicality

[Redrover1760]

Skill issue, should have slipped MSO and did a no u instead.

Honestly Sinfulbliss is so unrobust lmao. Cant even dodge a blacklist.

[kinnebian]

the inability of the players club to explain anything without using awful analogies

[Redrover1760]

the inability of the players club to explain anything without using awful analogies

No Sinful is actually just that unrobust.

Edit: Nvm I fully agree lol

[conrad]

the inability of the players club to explain anything without using awful analogies

Just like me having the inability of starting conflict without breaking escalation fr

[RaveRadbury]

in seriousness what's been said itt about slash and burn shit is completely true. permabans and the like really are handed out like hotcakes and the server suffers for it; they mostly seem to be fueled by spite and anger from the jannies too, like they're passing down some divine judgment from providence or whatever the fuck
the objective shift in server culture over the last 2-3 years (not that shifts don't happen and haven't happened naturally, just speaking from what i observed as somebody in the thick of it) used permabans as a cudgel - one person gets banned, their circle feels unwelcome, stops playing. thing is, there are plenty of jannies that see that and say "good" not because they think the server's better for their absence, but because they're making somebody they don't like suffer.

there's lots of anger on both sides (inb4 disingenuous responses saying they're not mad) and tension, and in situations where it's admins vs. players the players kind of just have to leave. and the admins hate those particular players, so they're happy to see them go.

it's very sad to witness.

Bruh you've been gone for two whole years (10/10/2021 to 10/08/2023). Did you come back on an alt to shake your post history? Because I'm starting to remember the opinions of Remanseptim. If you're basing your whole opinion on the two months you've been back your sample size is way off and it's unwise to extrapolate it onto the last 4 headmin terms you weren't here for.

You were literally let back in (by Vekter) from perma at the start of this October. So it's weird to take such an aggressive uninformed stance when your being here demonstrates the opposite.

[TheLoLSwat]

the ability of the players club to explain anything using great analogies

🥹 ty I tried my hardest, I think it’s easy enough to follow

[Indie-ana Jones]

That feel when the people who agree with your view of how the game should be get justly banned but now the people who want the game to be engaging and not a social life sim grows less and less (you will enjoy ze greenshift)

[soreyew]

Damn I cant believe a community manager would permanently exorcise people who organized to manipulate the Democratically elected admins of /tg/station somebody send in the feds for this clear violation of human rights

Edit: remembered a certified classic, posting in memoriam

https://streamable.com/t1cgqs

[TheLoLSwat]

That feel when the people who agree with your view of how the game should be get justly banned but now the people who want the game to be engaging and not a social life sim grows less and less (you will enjoy ze greenshift)

Exactly how I feel

[Misdoubtful]

All I have to say is: lol.

Games (not all some cater to it okay) aren't a place for pissbaby drama bullshit. Imagine waking up thinking about this kind of shit and the malicious things you'll do. Sad really.

Bad intentions, wrong priorities. Literally a 'go outside' moment.

[dendydoom]

Damn I cant believe a community manager would permanently exorcise people who organized to manipulate the Democratically elected admins of /tg/station somebody send in the CIA for this clear violation of human rights

Edit: remembered a certified classic, posting in memoriam

https://streamable.com/t1cgqs

this is how he should've stayed. just a funny fuckin dude who played the game and was a pleasure to have in a round because he was a cool character that made the game more fun.

how did we get here? so much of this shit was just totally unnecessary man. admins are just your every day run-of-the-mill socially awkward mfs like any other player. sometimes they make your day and sometimes they make decisions you don't agree with. they're not some monolithic entity that has some elaborate scheme that they're trying to deploy. there's no grand conspiracy here that required this level of doomposting and plotting. a self fulfilling prophecy if ever i saw one.

will they learn from this or just dig their heels in and convince themselves they were right of everything they were scared of? it's not like it matters at this point anyway.

[Armhulen]

That feel when the people who agree with your view of how the game should be get justly banned but now the people who want the game to be engaging and not a social life sim grows less and less (you will enjoy ze greenshift)

Honestly none of this decides whether the game is going to be job sim or not, changes to Dynamic will set the pace. God I can't wait for the new new new Dynamic that's going to save us all

[soreyew]

Damn I cant believe a community manager would permanently exorcise people who organized to manipulate the Democratically elected admins of /tg/station somebody send in the CIA for this clear violation of human rights

Edit: remembered a certified classic, posting in memoriam

https://streamable.com/t1cgqs

this is how he should've stayed. just a funny fuckin dude who played the game and was a pleasure to have in a round because he was a cool character that made the game more fun.

how did we get here? so much of this shit was just totally unnecessary man. admins are just your every day run-of-the-mill socially awkward mfs like any other player. sometimes they make your day and sometimes they make decisions you don't agree with. they're not some monolithic entity that has some elaborate scheme that they're trying to deploy. there's no grand conspiracy here that required this level of doomposting and plotting. a self fulfilling prophecy if ever i saw one.

will they learn from this or just dig their heels in and convince themselves they were right of everything they were scared of? it's not like it matters at this point anyway.

I have unlimited compassion for a persons ability to grow. Their pattern of behavior across two communities I've been members of now, sadly has me not expecting much.

[Bawhoppennn]

Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...

Sorry to say but anyone who willingly takes part in a peanut threat is by definition terminally online, it doesn't matter how much grass you touch.

You're right, this will be my last post ever on the forums

[Armhulen]

Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...

Sorry to say but anyone who willingly takes part in a peanut threat is by definition terminally online, it doesn't matter how much grass you touch.

You're right, this will be my last post ever on the forums

If you're joshing that's funny

If you're seriousing, it's kind of a dumb hill to die on. You're really gonna quit posting after 8 years because you came into a drama thread with half the story (the same thing we all have), you said some wacky tabacky shit, got pretty much exactly the response you would expect from immediately starting from a flippant stance about terminally online admins, downward trends, and doom, and then after getting zero pats on the back for bitterposting that means you're quitting forever? Making you tonight's biggest case of angiostrongylus cantonensis.
Just take a chill pill and realize not many hills are worth dying on and especially not this one. I said earlier, if you're a friend of the fallen lads that's fine and you should continue to follow and support them to whatever new horizons they go to and it's completely understandable to be sad or angry about the fact they got the boot but don't take the sanity out of your actions and how you're treating others because of it

[Timonk]

Deleting my forum account because I only know half the story

[Armhulen]

Deleting my forum account because I only know half the story

This will be the last time I try gas station chili

[Bawhoppennn]

Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...

Sorry to say but anyone who willingly takes part in a peanut threat is by definition terminally online, it doesn't matter how much grass you touch.

You're right, this will be my last post ever on the forums

If you're joshing that's funny

If you're seriousing, it's kind of a dumb hill to die on. You're really gonna quit posting after 8 years because you came into a drama thread with half the story (the same thing we all have), you said some wacky tabacky shit, got pretty much exactly the response you would expect from immediately starting from a flippant stance about terminally online admins, downward trends, and doom, and then after getting zero pats on the back for bitterposting that means you're quitting forever? Making you tonight's biggest case of angiostrongylus cantonensis.
Just take a chill pill and realize not many hills are worth dying on and especially not this one. I said earlier, if you're a friend of the fallen lads that's fine and you should continue to follow and support them to whatever new horizons they go to and it's completely understandable to be sad or angry about the fact they got the boot but don't take the sanity out of your actions and how you're treating others because of it

I was joshing. The post about me quitting was just supposed to be a joke about trying not to be terminally online. It had very little to do with the thread we're in right now... I can't possibly miss the opportunity to make an "Oh no, what have I become" joke when getting accused of being terminally online. Considering the context though, I see why it was taken as sounding serious (even if I had already backtracked in my prior posts).

As for this thread yeah. There are hills to die on, but after given further explanation, this is not one of them. There is not much information to go round, and everyone is pissed because either they know what was done and it's apparently severe, or if you don't know, it at first looked like a case of people getting banned just for having a shit attitude. And both sides hate each other because they see the other as unreasonable. But it is now apparent that there must be something of significance that actually happened more than the latter. So I regret having made my first post here, even if I was only going by the general blacklist reason given at the time.

[Armhulen]

Terminally online admins who live off of drama convincing MSO to blacklist people just because they had a personal slight against them? Why am I not surprised...

Sorry to say but anyone who willingly takes part in a peanut threat is by definition terminally online, it doesn't matter how much grass you touch.

You're right, this will be my last post ever on the forums

If you're joshing that's funny

If you're seriousing, it's kind of a dumb hill to die on. You're really gonna quit posting after 8 years because you came into a drama thread with half the story (the same thing we all have), you said some wacky tabacky shit, got pretty much exactly the response you would expect from immediately starting from a flippant stance about terminally online admins, downward trends, and doom, and then after getting zero pats on the back for bitterposting that means you're quitting forever? Making you tonight's biggest case of angiostrongylus cantonensis.
Just take a chill pill and realize not many hills are worth dying on and especially not this one. I said earlier, if you're a friend of the fallen lads that's fine and you should continue to follow and support them to whatever new horizons they go to and it's completely understandable to be sad or angry about the fact they got the boot but don't take the sanity out of your actions and how you're treating others because of it

I was joshing. The post about me quitting was just supposed to be a joke about trying not to be terminally online. It had very little to do with the thread we're in right now... I can't possibly miss the opportunity to make an "Oh no, what have I become" joke when getting accused of being terminally online. Considering the context though, I see why it was taken as sounding serious (even if I had already backtracked in my prior posts).

As for this thread yeah. There are hills to die on, but after given further explanation, this is not one of them. There is not much information to go round, and everyone is pissed because either they know what was done and it's apparently severe, or if you don't know, it at first looked like a case of people getting banned just for having a shit attitude. And both sides hate each other because they see the other as unreasonable. But it is now apparent that there must be something of significance that actually happened more than the latter. So I regret having made my first post here, even if I was only going by the general blacklist reason given at the time.

Thank goodness you're joshing! A FORUM WITHOUT BAWHOPPEN? Is it a forum at all???? And what a wise reflective post. Any implications of rat wormlung are of course null and void because you weren't seriousposting. But man did I pick apart how nutty that would be if you were

[Capsandi]

This is why i keep an antag token on me at all times so that when my international network of assmad assistant mains whom I look good in comparison to is found out, I can use rule 4 protection to avoid a ban for orchestrating the psychological torment of emptyposters by proxy. It will be like the banhammer will be swung at me and then the token will explode and the shockwave will stop the ban hammer like one of them tank armors.

[kinnebian]

This is why i keep an antag token on me at all times so that when my international network of assmad assistant mains whom I look good in comparison to is found out, I can use rule 4 protection to avoid a ban for orchestrating the psychological torment of emptyposters by proxy. It will be like the banhammer will be swung at me and then the token will explode and the shockwave will stop the ban hammer like one of them tank armors.

[chocolate_bickie]

This is why i keep an antag token on me at all times so that when my international network of assmad assistant mains whom I look good in comparison to is found out, I can use rule 4 protection to avoid a ban for orchestrating the psychological torment of emptyposters by proxy. It will be like the banhammer will be swung at me and then the token will explode and the shockwave will stop the ban hammer like one of them tank armors.

Reactive Ban Armor