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nutter thinks chatgpt will get his note removed

Post by PapaMichael » #724687

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Have we had an obviously ai-generated appeal before? This is pretty bad.

A 1-word "sorry' would have had exactly the same substance as this.
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Post by Sightld2 » #724692

We have actually. To the point where the KiethDoubtfulPoes4 term added this to the FNR rules:
If an admin determines that an AI generated or assisted appeal is low effort / done in bad faith they are free to close it and request an appeal written by the appellants own hand.
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We've had several. To the point a policy thread was made
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SIGHT BEAT ME
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EmpressMaia wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:05 pm SIGHT BEAT ME
Not even close babyy
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Post by EmpressMaia » #724697

Wait this is for a note??? Why would you break out the 5 paragraphs of ai slop for a note
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Post by PapaMichael » #724717

This conversation appears to be a discussion among members of an online community or forum moderation team regarding the use of AI-generated content in user appeals. Here's a breakdown of the main points:
  1. PapaMichael expresses dissatisfaction with what seems to be a low-effort, AI-generated appeal, noting that a simple apology would have been more effective than the content provided.
  2. Sightld2 confirms that there have been instances of AI-generated appeals in the past, to the extent that it led to the creation of a specific rule. This rule allows administrators to close appeals deemed low effort or made in bad faith, specifically if they are AI-generated or assisted, and request a personally written appeal by the appellant.
  3. EmpressMaia echoes Sightld2's sentiment, indicating that the issue of AI-generated appeals has been prevalent enough to necessitate a policy thread. The quick exchange between EmpressMaia and Sightld2 shows a light-hearted competitive rapport.
  4. The conversation ends with EmpressMaia expressing surprise that an AI-generated appeal, described as "5 paragraphs of ai slop," was submitted for something as minor as a note, implying that such an effort seems excessive for a small issue.
This dialogue highlights concerns within online communities about the authenticity and effort behind appeals, particularly with the advent of AI tools. It showcases how AI-generated content can be viewed as lacking sincerity or personal accountability, leading to policy changes to ensure appeals are genuinely written by users.
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Post by Higgin » #724723

your honor, As a large-language model, I ..
feedback appreciated here <3
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Re: nutter thinks chatgpt will get his note removed

Post by Scriptis » #724724

roses are red

violets are blue

if you use a language model to write your appeal

i think we should ban you
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Post by Kendrickorium » #724732

PapaMichael wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:07 pm viewtopic.php?t=35964
Have we had an obviously ai-generated appeal before? This is pretty bad.

A 1-word "sorry' would have had exactly the same substance as this.
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Post by datorangebottle » #724746

Using AI to appeal a note for SS13 (presumably referring to Space Station 13, a multiplayer online role-playing game) might not be a good idea for several reasons:

Lack of Context Understanding: AI, while advanced, may not fully understand the nuances and context of a particular situation in the game. SS13 is known for its complex and often chaotic gameplay, which may involve intricate interactions between players, roles, and in-game systems. An AI might not grasp these complexities accurately and could provide inappropriate or irrelevant suggestions for appealing a note.

Subjectivity of Appeals: Appeals in SS13 often involve subjective judgments about player behavior and interactions. These judgments can be based on various factors, including in-game rules, community standards, and individual perceptions. AI algorithms might struggle to interpret subjective criteria effectively and could provide inconsistent or biased recommendations for appealing notes.

Limited Data and Training: AI systems require extensive training data to learn effectively. In the case of SS13 appeals, there might not be enough diverse and representative data available to train an AI model adequately. As a result, the AI might not be able to generalize well to new or complex appeal cases, leading to inaccurate or unreliable recommendations.

Lack of Accountability: Using AI to handle appeals could potentially remove the human element from the process. Human moderators and administrators can exercise judgment, empathy, and discretion when evaluating appeals, taking into account factors beyond strict rule adherence. AI systems, on the other hand, lack this capacity for empathy and may not consider extenuating circumstances or mitigating factors that could influence an appeal decision.

Community Trust and Engagement: In many online gaming communities like SS13, player trust in the appeal process is crucial for maintaining a healthy and vibrant player base. Introducing AI into the appeal process without proper transparency and oversight could erode player trust and lead to dissatisfaction with the moderation system. Human involvement in appeals helps foster a sense of community and ensures that decisions are made with fairness and understanding.

In summary, while AI technology has the potential to assist with various tasks, including moderation and dispute resolution, using it to handle appeals for SS13 notes may not be advisable due to the complexity of the game, the subjective nature of appeals, and the importance of human judgment and community trust in the moderation process.
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Timberpoes wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
Chadley wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:00 am WENDEZ, cute, cute. I imagine the sleeper activation code when I hear it. That's pretty cool. qB). But I don't like that it doesn't line up to be anything obsurd like WEWLAD. 6/10

SUGMA, nevermind it makes sense now. fuckyou/10
kieth4 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 2:34 pm If it goes to appeals I will stand as the shield and protect this man's right to shit himself. Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
sinfulbliss wrote: I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Post by DrAmazing343 » #724763

Holy fucking shit I think I need to be shot after reading all that
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Post by Timonk » #724769

datorangebottle wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 8:03 am Using AI to appeal a note for SS13 (presumably referring to Space Station 13, a multiplayer online role-playing game) might not be a good idea for several reasons:

Lack of Context Understanding: AI, while advanced, may not fully understand the nuances and context of a particular situation in the game. SS13 is known for its complex and often chaotic gameplay, which may involve intricate interactions between players, roles, and in-game systems. An AI might not grasp these complexities accurately and could provide inappropriate or irrelevant suggestions for appealing a note.

Subjectivity of Appeals: Appeals in SS13 often involve subjective judgments about player behavior and interactions. These judgments can be based on various factors, including in-game rules, community standards, and individual perceptions. AI algorithms might struggle to interpret subjective criteria effectively and could provide inconsistent or biased recommendations for appealing notes.

Limited Data and Training: AI systems require extensive training data to learn effectively. In the case of SS13 appeals, there might not be enough diverse and representative data available to train an AI model adequately. As a result, the AI might not be able to generalize well to new or complex appeal cases, leading to inaccurate or unreliable recommendations.

Lack of Accountability: Using AI to handle appeals could potentially remove the human element from the process. Human moderators and administrators can exercise judgment, empathy, and discretion when evaluating appeals, taking into account factors beyond strict rule adherence. AI systems, on the other hand, lack this capacity for empathy and may not consider extenuating circumstances or mitigating factors that could influence an appeal decision.

Community Trust and Engagement: In many online gaming communities like SS13, player trust in the appeal process is crucial for maintaining a healthy and vibrant player base. Introducing AI into the appeal process without proper transparency and oversight could erode player trust and lead to dissatisfaction with the moderation system. Human involvement in appeals helps foster a sense of community and ensures that decisions are made with fairness and understanding.

In summary, while AI technology has the potential to assist with various tasks, including moderation and dispute resolution, using it to handle appeals for SS13 notes may not be advisable due to the complexity of the game, the subjective nature of appeals, and the importance of human judgment and community trust in the moderation process.
you made this with AI didnt you
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In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
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pikeyeskey13 wrote: ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
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Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.


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Post by datorangebottle » #724770

Timonk wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:53 pm you made this with AI didnt you
Hey Timonk, just wanted to let you know that I used artificial intelligence to compose my previous post. I employed a language model developed by OpenAI called ChatGPT to generate the text. It's pretty fascinating how advanced AI technology has become, capable of mimicking human-like language and generating coherent responses. Let me know if you have any questions about it!
Timberpoes wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:33 pm ImageAnother satisfied Timberpoes voter.Image
Timberpoes wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
Chadley wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:00 am WENDEZ, cute, cute. I imagine the sleeper activation code when I hear it. That's pretty cool. qB). But I don't like that it doesn't line up to be anything obsurd like WEWLAD. 6/10

SUGMA, nevermind it makes sense now. fuckyou/10
kieth4 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 2:34 pm If it goes to appeals I will stand as the shield and protect this man's right to shit himself. Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
sinfulbliss wrote: I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Post by Timonk » #724773

tell ChatGPT to suck my nuts
joooks wrote:
Naloac wrote:
In short, this appeal is denied. Suck my nuts retard.
Quoting a legend, at least im not a faggot lol
See you in 12 months unless you blacklist me for this
Timberpoes wrote: I'm going to admin timonk [...]. Fuck it, he's also now my second host vote if goof rejects.
pikeyeskey13 wrote: ok don't forget to shove it up your ass lmao oops u can delete this one I just wanted to make sure it went through
Agux909 wrote:
Timonk wrote:This is why we make fun of Manuel
Woah bravo there sir, post of the month you saved the thread. I feel overwhelmed by the echo of unlimited wisdom and usefulness sprouting from you post. Every Manuel player now feels embarrased to exist because of your much NEEDED wise words, you sure teached'em all, you genius, IQ lord.


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Timberpoes wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:33 pm ImageAnother satisfied Timberpoes voter.Image
Timberpoes wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:16 pm I highly doubt any other admin on the team would have given you this chance, except maybe Kieth because his brain worms are almost as bad as mine.
Vekter wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:45 pm At what point does someone's refusal or failure to improve become malice in and of itself? If you give someone a year to stop shitting on the carpet and they keep doing it but get slightly closer to the bathroom every time and sometimes they get to the toilet before it happens, at what point does it become acceptable to just ask them to go shit in someone else's house?
Timberpoes wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:00 pm I'm sorry, can we get a real player to resolve this appeal? I don't like this trial player. They can't even set their own name.
Chadley wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:00 am WENDEZ, cute, cute. I imagine the sleeper activation code when I hear it. That's pretty cool. qB). But I don't like that it doesn't line up to be anything obsurd like WEWLAD. 6/10

SUGMA, nevermind it makes sense now. fuckyou/10
kieth4 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 2:34 pm If it goes to appeals I will stand as the shield and protect this man's right to shit himself. Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
sinfulbliss wrote: I almost prefer Rave's AI-generated "We cannot accept this appeal at this time. If you would like assistance appealing in the future, please dial 1-800-1984-1488."
Pandarsenic wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:25 pm I think we can all agree that someone throwing a reverse revolver at Zyb as a secret test of character, and Zyb immediately fucking himself with it, is the best thing we all could have received for Christmas this year
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Post by ekaterina » #724880

Unsane wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:26 pm When someone's banned, they need to, um, express their feelings
lmao imagine a guy just rocking up and going "being banned made me sad, unban pls :("
ain't no admin this side of space give a shit about your feelings, bruv, you should address the actual substance of the ban and show in what way it is unfair.
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toemas wrote: ekaterina is really funny because they just consistently say what should be complete common sense (...) and then they get dogpiled by everyone in the thread
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If I cry hard enough the admin will feel bad... Just think about it...
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Post by TheSmallBlue » #724945

In the vast universe of Space Station 13, where crewmates scurry through the halls completing tasks and impostors lurk in the shadows, the concept of utilizing AI for note-removal requests on TGStation forums resembles a perilous voyage into the unknown. Just as in Among Us, where impostors manipulate trust to sow chaos, allowing AI to handle such delicate matters risks sabotaging the integrity of the community.

Firstly, envisioning AI as Crewmates in this scenario is akin to blindly entrusting the ship's operations to a potentially deceitful entity. While Crewmates in Among Us diligently perform tasks to maintain the station's functionality, AI lacks the nuanced understanding of social dynamics and context required to discern legitimate requests from deceptive ones. Thus, relying on AI for note-removal requests risks inadvertently granting impostors a loophole to exploit, undermining the forum's credibility.

Moreover, deploying AI for note-removal requests mirrors the Impostor's strategy of diverting suspicion away from themselves. In Among Us, Impostors employ cunning tactics to shift blame onto innocent Crewmates, creating confusion and discord. Similarly, entrusting AI with the responsibility of handling note-removal requests deflects accountability away from genuine community members, potentially shielding malicious actors who seek to evade repercussions for their misconduct.

Furthermore, just as Crewmates must engage in vigilant communication to identify Impostors and maintain order aboard the station, the TGStation community relies on active dialogue and human moderation to uphold its standards of conduct. Introducing AI as a mediator in note-removal requests disrupts this crucial interpersonal exchange, depriving the community of the opportunity to collectively address grievances and foster a sense of trust and camaraderie.

In conclusion, employing AI for note-removal requests on TGStation forums mirrors the treacherous tactics of Impostors in Among Us, jeopardizing the harmony and integrity of the community. Just as Crewmates must remain vigilant to unmask Impostors and preserve the station's stability, so too must the TGStation community remain vigilant against the potential pitfalls of entrusting critical decisions to artificial entities. Only through collaborative effort and human oversight can the community navigate the complexities of maintaining a safe and inclusive environment for all.
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