MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:44 pm
Everybody involved is being a fuckass.
Admins had no way of knowing the player felt metagrunged
The player was likely jumping to that conclusion too quickly.
But
Each of the two suicides was reasonable. It was reasonable to think their was no point continuing the round during the hos arrest. It was reasonable to want to exit the round because they though they were being targeted by a bully.
The player not liking the implication otherwise was reasonable.
Everybody in this thread suggesting otherwise is a fuck ass.
Everybody harping on the player for defending the suicide point is being a bully.
I want admins to be very careful how much they read into players suiciding or ghosting. This game has given me social anxiety before that I had to ghost. This game has triggered my anger management issues before requiring an immediate disengage. We want players to ghost when shit gets to be too much.
Casting that in the light of them being a sore loser is dangerous.
I can say that I find it a completely reasonable opinion that when they thought they were being metagrudged by an adminfriend they should be able to leave the game. There are situations I probably should have expelled my ghost from my body recently too, like that recent eyeball torture debacle.
However, on what grounds do you defend the hos arrest one? Per the logs, the Captain did not decide to execute him prior to him ghosting, and the HoS most assuredly did NOT torture or grief him, despite the appealant's repeated claims otherwise. His fate was not set in stone, and he put in ZERO effort to defend himself to the Captain. In addition, his logs do not come across at ALL like someone suffering from some sort of anxiety attack or being put in an uncomfortable RP situation, they entirely look like someone frustrated their gimmick got ruined.
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[2024-04-11 14:45:05.072] GAME-EMOTE: 14:45:05.072] GAME-EMOTE: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) points at Bugi (Storage Wing (83,157,2))
[2024-04-11 14:45:30.387] GAME-EMOTE: 14:45:30.387] GAME-EMOTE: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) points at the full tile reinforced window (Storage Wing (83,159,2))
[2024-04-11 14:48:21.521] GAME-EMOTE: 14:48:21.521] GAME-EMOTE: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) points at the floor (Vault (83,162,2))
[2024-04-11 14:48:23.790] GAME-SAY: 14:48:23.790] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "Why?" (Vault (83,162,2))
[2024-04-11 14:48:35.695] GAME-SAY: 14:48:35.695] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "Let me get my things." (Vault (83,162,2))
[2024-04-11 14:48:43.140] GAME-SAY: 14:48:43.140] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "The drip." (Vault (83,162,2))
[2024-04-11 14:48:51.082] GAME-SAY: 14:48:51.082] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "Close the door." (Vault (83,161,2))
[2024-04-11 14:48:57.493] GAME-SAY: 14:48:57.493] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "Let me get my things." (Vault (83,161,2))
[2024-04-11 14:49:34.484] GAME-SAY: 14:49:34.484] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "Get my usual drip and then help crew." (Vault (83,162,2))
[2024-04-11 14:49:49.470] GAME-SAY: 14:49:49.470] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "Just uncuff me and let me get my stuff." (Vault (84,162,2))
[2024-04-11 14:49:58.284] GAME-SAY: 14:49:58.284] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "I don't come here if I want to be a bad guy." (Vault (82,161,2))
[2024-04-11 14:50:24.797] GAME-SAY: 14:50:24.797] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "Or you can be a complete shitlord and just loot me. That works as well." (Vault (83,161,2))
[2024-04-11 14:50:30.562] GAME-SAY: 14:50:30.562] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "Baton." (Vault (83,162,2))
[2024-04-11 14:50:57.138] GAME-SAY: 14:50:57.138] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "Part of larp." (Vault (83,162,2))
[2024-04-11 14:51:36.448] GAME-SAY: 14:51:36.448] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "Why are we wasting time here? Either just kill me or let me get my things. This is pointless." (Vault (83,161,2))
[2024-04-11 14:51:46.491] GAME-SAY: 14:51:46.491] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "You are being a shitlord." (Vault (83,162,2))
[2024-04-11 14:51:54.746] GAME-SAY: 14:51:54.746] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "Sure, go for it." (Vault (83,162,2))
[2024-04-11 14:54:27.605] GAME-SAY: 14:54:27.605] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "HoS is being a cringelord." (Holding Cell (117,163,2))
[2024-04-11 14:54:40.833] GAME-SAY: 14:54:40.833] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "Just looted me and policing fun." (Holding Cell (117,163,2))
[2024-04-11 14:54:53.404] GAME-SAY: 14:54:53.404] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "Either give me my stuff back or just kill me." (Holding Cell (117,163,2))
[2024-04-11 14:55:06.637] GAME-SAY: 14:55:06.637] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "This experience has been shit already and I am not interested in keeping it going." (Holding Cell (117,163,2))
[2024-04-11 14:56:58.570] GAME-SAY: 14:56:58.570] GAME-SAY: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) "Anton, know that you are a cringelord and I was never a traitor." (Holding Cell (117,163,2))
[2024-04-11 14:57:02.203] GAME: 14:57:02.203] GAME: *no key*/(Krokodil) (mob_3421) *no key*/(Krokodil) is no longer owning mob Krokodil(/mob/living/carbon/human) (Holding Cell (117,163,2))
[2024-04-11 14:57:02.204] GAME-ACCESS: 14:57:02.204] GAME-ACCESS: Mob Login: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) was assigned to a /mob/dead/observer (mob_4329)
[2024-04-11 14:57:02.228] GAME: 14:57:02.228] GAME: Istoprocent/(Krokodil) (mob_4329) Client Istoprocent/(Krokodil) has taken ownership of mob Krokodil(/mob/dead/observer) (Holding Cell (117,163,2))
I'm sorry MSO but this fundamentally DOES look like him being a sore loser to me.