Jazaen wrote:Yet the question of who exactly took bagil off the hub remains.
I believe that MSO removed the server from the hub to avoid the summer flood, I can only assume it will be back in the fall.
Also I think that I am the only person who complained about the hub after we started reaching 70+, or I was at least the only person who did it publicly.
I think school is out for the kiddies and looking at the hub, pops don't seem too high across the board. It'd probably be fine to put Basil back on there if the population gets too low.
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Just replace both their arms with chainsaws.
I also complained about it owegno, but more than that I kind of stopped playing. We are at a good place for population right now, not sure why everyone thinks we are back to 18 people peak hours
EDIT: Also i am pretty sure i was here for the sybil 2 days, but that was when i was really new. I only played on sybil and didnt get involved in any of the drama. They were simpler times
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Basil is still regularly getting as much and more than Sybil even being off the hub, I don't know what you're talking about Oranges.
Also goof just quit this thread before you get laughed at even more, theres 2 servers and they have different playstyles and you don't play on one so you can't complain about it.
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good job guys, you completely ignored the concerns about re-occurances of the metacliques by glossing over my mentions of it with "lol u dont play there!!1!" and completely ignoring paprika bringing it up
I don't know if you guys noticed but the "summer flood" didn't even happen this year. In previous years you'd see the bump even with all the servers having never been on the hub.
I think they're all playing overwatch or something, Idk maybe they'll show up later in the season once that games flavor of the month status wears off.
iamgoofball wrote:Saegrimir you had more interaction with them than I did can you verify my memes
The problem circlejerkers were like 8 maybe? people who all eventually got banned/left because friend got banned/left because tired of the game/realized how dumb all this shit is.
And that was when the server population was about... 8 people.
There is a current group of 3 confirmed, possible 5 that I know about that I know metafriend but its mostly harmless right now and they roleplay fairly decently and will gladly ban them when it goes too far. Don't worry.
5 non-issues out of 40 players is not a big deal.
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Incoming wrote:I don't know if you guys noticed but the "summer flood" didn't even happen this year. In previous years you'd see the bump even with all the servers having never been on the hub.
I think they're all playing overwatch or something, Idk maybe they'll show up later in the season once that games flavor of the month status wears off.
"We'll get a million new players during summer we don't have to worry about alienating anyone ever!" has always been a dumb way to view things.
The number of players online is often way lower than the number of people actually playing as well. Usually 8+ observing or in lobby on sybil.
paprika wrote:Yeah basil as the cool club secondary server kills it; history has taught us this. HBL knows this probably better than anyone.
Sybil can survive by reputation alone without being on the hub or anything, but I don't think basil can.
Id agree with this. I think basil needs to be back on the hub. It was certainly what revived it at any rate (or seemingly did).
It does bring in a bunch more work for admins to do (trolls are more regular, new players who need help etc). But we have a pretty good admin count on Basil alone these days so shouldnt be too bad.
The other thing it does is helps to keep the playerbase "fresh". People who assume they are part of a special club that got in before the door closed tend to act a certain way. When newer players come in, they can act like the vet's but still be functional with everyone. What I mean is it stops drama if there is a fresh supply of newer players to help out or berate (depending on what kinda person you are).
Whatever
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callanrockslol wrote:all you have to do is ban shitters until the playbase improves/ceases to exist, whichever comes first.
IM TRYING
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Are you having a stroke
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iamgoofball wrote:good job guys, you completely ignored the concerns about re-occurances of the metacliques by glossing over my mentions of it with "lol u dont play there!!1!" and completely ignoring paprika bringing it up
you asked for this
the metacliques are back. can confirm. Weve basically traded the "Wild Hogs" group for a bunch of Furries. Aliannera, Daturix, Pootix, MatrixOne. Probably metacomming over steam as well, but shit like that is near impossible to proove so the official version is "Theres no meta comms".
Put basil back on the hub, mix this shit up, Im tired of Speccing furry cliques to be fair.
Who made the decision to remove it from the hub anyways? I don't believe that got answered, and whoevers reasoning might shed some light on the situation.
Ham Sammich, beating a dead horse since 2010.
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lumipharon wrote:ass parasite was pretty meh when I tried it.
Reece wrote:Indeed, I like RP'ing, but if I'm honest I logged out of Basil today because someone I had never interacted with that round saved me from a sec search, patched me up and handed me a stolen taser because I healed them two rounds ago. That shit is not okay, it's not Roleplaying, it's blatant meta and I've had to re-do my character now.
Yeah, I thought I'd like basil more, but It turns out I really don't. It just has a lot of trolls and muh immershun breakers
Incoming wrote:I don't know if you guys noticed but the "summer flood" didn't even happen this year. In previous years you'd see the bump even with all the servers having never been on the hub.
I think they're all playing overwatch or something, Idk maybe they'll show up later in the season once that games flavor of the month status wears off.
can confirm, did some research and all the kids are playing Overwatch this summer, expect the flood to start up in a month or so
Without the influx from the Hub Basil is not enjoyable to play on other than peak hours+weekend. The core playerbase is a bunch of furries that simply lack the creativity and the will to get some action going (Because I cant hurt muh metafriends etc).
Im genuinely considering to just play on Sybil at this point.
Franz. Are you forgetting how much of an issue you, yourself, can be?
When it's on the hub, it gets up to 50-60 players during regular times, and up to 70-80 up on peak hours. In my opinion, this is way too many players. I'd say 30-40 is more enjoyable.
Especially if roughly two to three quarters of them are new players, griefers, metacommers, or "one-timers", or a mix of the aforementioned three.
The new players are not so bad. They simply need guidance. However, they cause some to pull their hair in agony with some of the things they do. This has led some players to leave in frustration.
The griefers toe the line just enough to avoid admin retribution, for what can be, months. All while causing grief to players that either goes unreported or unaccounted for. And we have no way of reporting it.
The metacommers come in occasionally as a group killing or griefing as one. Sometimes it takes admins quite a while to deal with. By that point, it is kind of too late, what is done is done.
Honestly... There do appear to be some meta-cliques, Franz is not entirely incorrect. But the admins never acted on it and they left quite some time ago. They still occasionally resurface. However.
The hub was a good thing, though many were skeptical. It brought some decent players in, some became admins. It also increased the player base. However, it brought in many bad things, as-well.
And the bad is not really being dealt with reliably, in my opinion. Some believe it just needs time, that things will become better. but that is an optimistic standpoint. One that i regrettably lack.
As far as i know, the plan was to have it on the hub to gain players, then remove it from the hub to thin out and weed out the bad players, then put it back on the hub. Rinse and repeat.
Either way. I barely play anymore. Mostly for life reasons, but also due to the aforementioned reasons. But, i still think people like Goofball and Oranges should not even try dictating what does and does not happen. Especially if they do not even play there at all.
Pascal123 wrote:But, i still think people like Goofball and Oranges should not even try dictating what does and does not happen. Especially if they do not even play there at all.
It's oranges
My concern isn't to dictate to you how to play, it's that we'll lose the playerbase of our second server which is a valuable asset.
Pascal123 wrote:But, i still think people like Goofball and Oranges should not even try dictating what does and does not happen. Especially if they do not even play there at all.
It's oranges
My concern isn't to dictate to you how to play, it's that we'll lose the playerbase of our second server which is a valuable asset.
Oranges I'm not gonna lie you sound so jewish here it's fucking hilarious
Seriously if you don't play there it shouldn't matter to you at all
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Pascal123 wrote:But, i still think people like Goofball and Oranges should not even try dictating what does and does not happen. Especially if they do not even play there at all.
It's oranges
My concern isn't to dictate to you how to play, it's that we'll lose the playerbase of our second server which is a valuable asset.
Oranges I'm not gonna lie you sound so jewish here it's fucking hilarious
Seriously if you don't play there it shouldn't matter to you at all
It's important to me that the servers maintain a healthy population, cementing our place as the biggest and most active codebase, what's so hard to understand about that?
Well oranges is half correct in that having a large playerbase on the server will translate to more people wanting to contribute to the (utterly separate, right guys?) codebase of which the server pulls code from.
Steelpoint wrote:Well oranges is half correct in that having a large playerbase on the server will translate to more people wanting to contribute to the (utterly separate, right guys?) codebase of which the server pulls code from.
Yes this is what I mean
it's important to me as a maintainer that tg remain the biggest baddest codebase on the block, so I can boast about it and put it on my resume
Falamazeer wrote:Who made the decision to remove it from the hub anyways? I don't believe that got answered, and whoevers reasoning might shed some light on the situation.
It wasn't a decission. My little birds tell me it was an accident through a byond issue, that wasn't spotted for a few weeks. Then when it was kinda was like "Eh, lets just see how long it takes for people to notice and see what happens because of it".
Simply, it was an error that turned expirement.
Results: inconclusive.
I say shove it back on the hub for a few weeks and lets see what happens? Maybe even side with the party of basxit when it comes to the summer rush and take it off just for that patch, returning to (e)hub when summer calms the fuck down.
Whatever
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oranges wrote:singulo.io is the center point of rational and calm debate, where much of tg's issues are worked out in a fun and family friendly environment
miggles wrote:it must have been quite the accomplishment, killing a dead butterfly
WeeYakk wrote:If you take a step back from everything watching the community argue janitor related changes is one of the most surreal and hilarious things about this game. Four pages of discussing the merits of there being too much or too little dirt in a video game.
Operative wrote:Vote PAS for headmin! Get cucked and feel good getting cucked.
TheNightingale wrote:I want to get off Mr. Scones's Wild Ride...
NikNakFlak wrote:Excuse you, I was doing intentional bug testing for the well being of the server. I do not make mistakes.
Fragnostic wrote:stop cucking the first shitshow ever that revolved around me.
This is my moment, what are you doing?!
Anonmare wrote:Oranges gestures at the thread, it shudders and begins to move!
Saegrimr wrote:
callanrockslol wrote:all you have to do is ban shitters until the playbase improves/ceases to exist, whichever comes first.
IM TRYING
Screemonster wrote:hellmoo is the mud for grown adults who main reaper in overwatch
Kor wrote:
confused rock wrote:...its like if we made fire extinguishers spawn in emergency boxes and have them heal you when you put out fires rather than them being in wall storages...
Are you having a stroke
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