Lack of admin administration

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:56 am #187644

Few recent threads have indicated to me a clear lack of admin moderation.

Those that to escalate things to a complaint are often unresolved, ignored, or the offending admin is given one of countless warnings and no punishment.

Personally I work on a 2-3 discrepancy basis (2 fuckups results in feedback posted, 3 results in complaint).
But that's beyond the point.

There's a clear lack of punishment given for admin abuse. I don't want to break it to you but a simple warning just doesn't feel sufficient anymore when things are ignored unless they're above and beyond the norms and becomes serious.
Even then like the case of Robustin's abuse he only got stepped down to trialmin.
And that's for what I think is relatively minor demotion reason compared to more serious admin cases.

Essentially growing a backbone in the administration team and enforcing admins to reconsider their actions and ensure they have beyond reasonable doubt to ban someone.

Many bans recently have been really bad too. Looking at some bans, the admins reasoning was never clear irrelevant information is mixed in to dilute ban reasoning.

Do you think admins need an admin like watchmen need to be watched?
And who watches the watchmen, if we do this?

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:04 am #187646

J_Madison wants to be an internal affairs agent so bad it's cringy

Okand37 · Post by **Okand37** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:10 am #187647

I think you're overthinking this.

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:15 am #187650

<J_Madison> Well
<J_Madison> due to the recent shitstorm of admin abuse
<J_Madison> I extend my offer to be admin-admin. internal affairs. breath down necks of admins.
<coiax> ew
<MrPerson> No offense, but you are like the last person I would want doing that
<J_Madison> why whats up mrp? too spooky of a background?
<oranges> no because you can't understand why it's a bad idea to dig up personal information on people over a game
<MrPerson> get out of here stalker
<MrPerson> I can understand when you're throwing dosh at people
<J_Madison> oranges please
<J_Madison> It was an accident.
<oranges> oh yes you just accidentally managed to dig up information on them
<oranges> a slip of the hand
<J_Madison> also I'm planning on just grilling all the admin's bad decisions. any dicrepancies and incorrect bans will be raised and handled to them
<J_Madison> who are we talking about here oranges Shaps?
<coiax> > which dox in particular do you mean
<J_Madison> who do you think i am co. some guy who looks at something and says "i need to dox that"
<J_Madison> "hey look at that tank over there. I'm gonna dox the manufacturer"
<J_Madison> geez i'm insulted
<KorPhaeron> whereever he goes he must also dox
<J_Madison> I take pride in my own work. It's an artform. each layer is meticulously hand crafted and selected

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:24 am #187654

This seems like one of those situations where the most qualified person is someone who doesn't really want the job. How badly you want the job speaks volumes and you make most people uncomfortable

Bawhoppennn · Post by **Bawhoppennn** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:13 am #187666

oh god jmad i thought you could not get more cringey

Post by **Shaps-cloud** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 3:53 am #187686

We should have elected jmad as headmin so we would get stipends and no longer suffer this burden of adminship for free

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:35 am #187731

I don't really give a shit either way Niknak. I've got other things to do and I'm only offering my hand out.
And funny you should be criticising my suggestion when you're the one to ban me from supportbus then giggle on your discord about doing it. Or the fact that you sit down going through every new account doxing the source of their IP address and information.

Kettle calling the pot black.

Keep the thread on topic to do with lack of admin moderation and not what I do in my spare time.

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:55 am #187736

That IRC was on topic and also, fuck off, Sifting through a database is NOT the same as finding people's personal information like you do.

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:21 am #187740

NikNakFlak wrote:That IRC was on topic and also, fuck off, Sifting through a database is NOT the same as finding people's personal information like you do.

Funny, because looking at their IP address in depth essentially is the same. I wouldn't doubt you try to dox their username to find any leads. You shouldn't be using something like that as an excuse to ban/go gestapo on someone.

TechnoAlchemist · Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:27 am

Jesus Christ

Post by **NikNakFlak** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:39 am #187745

I don't. In fact, I pretty much stopped doing all database stuff because I stopped caring.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:43 am #187746

Fuck off, j_mad.

J_Madison · Post by **J_Madison** » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:51 am #187747

Go ahead and lock this then. There's no constructive discussion.

The aim was to address things like:
banning with standard and good reasoning
shit like banning someone fnr for 1 day is unacceptable.
Or the complete lack of punishment for admin abuse.

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