Mass identity duplication
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Mass identity duplication
I believe we had a thread on a similar issue a few months ago, where 9 people or the like would all call themselves the same or very proximate names and then cause havoc on the station, effectively banbaiting since inevitably one of them would get in trouble for this or that or the other and then a non-criminal "clone" would get arrested and kick a fuss.
Just to check, does the ruling from then (that its not kosher) apply to mass identity duplication via genetics?
We recently had a round where one person's appearance and name was issued out to a large number of people by genetics, leading to a lot of confusion and memery, especially as one such person ended up being a ling.
Just to check, does the ruling from then (that its not kosher) apply to mass identity duplication via genetics?
We recently had a round where one person's appearance and name was issued out to a large number of people by genetics, leading to a lot of confusion and memery, especially as one such person ended up being a ling.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
As a one-off gimmick, I agree, but much like the similar/identical named people, it wears thin with overuse, which I suspect will happen here.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
Yeah pretty much if people abuse it I think it's worth starting to issue warnings or at least tell em to knock it off.Arianya wrote:As a one-off gimmick, I agree, but much like the similar/identical named people, it wears thin with overuse, which I suspect will happen here.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
Its hard to believe that any group of 3 or more people just suddenly decide at once to share a name without some sort of metafriending/metacommunication.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
It's possible with the changeling transform sting, we shouldn't punish the antag for that nor the victims.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
I don't think that's what the OP is talking about.BeeSting12 wrote:It's possible with the changeling transform sting, we shouldn't punish the antag for that nor the victims.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
I imagine it all comes down to intent, method and result.
I've seen plenty of genetics gimmicks where the geneticist (or assistant working with them) will copy one UI onto everyone who wants it until half the crew is one person and that person makes a sort of gang/cult out of it. That can be entertaining for everyone but security.
On the other hand, if you're doing it by force or doing it to grief one particular person, yeah that likely comes under one of the rules. Antags can do whatever by their nature.
As for how security handles a identity duplication gimmick; it's basically the same as dealing with transformation sting changeling. Annoying but you can try to deduce the cause and put a stop to it. Make sure everyone wears their ID to help identity crewmembers by their former IDs. That sort of thing.
I've seen plenty of genetics gimmicks where the geneticist (or assistant working with them) will copy one UI onto everyone who wants it until half the crew is one person and that person makes a sort of gang/cult out of it. That can be entertaining for everyone but security.
On the other hand, if you're doing it by force or doing it to grief one particular person, yeah that likely comes under one of the rules. Antags can do whatever by their nature.
As for how security handles a identity duplication gimmick; it's basically the same as dealing with transformation sting changeling. Annoying but you can try to deduce the cause and put a stop to it. Make sure everyone wears their ID to help identity crewmembers by their former IDs. That sort of thing.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
I've actually decided to join in and be part of one of these things before because it was hilariously funny in the moment.
I've even started exactly this meme before and had probably six or seven people join me by the end of the round, and I have no idea who any of them were.
This is an easy thing for people to pile on with together and I don't really see it happen that frequently, though it does have bursts of short-term frequency from time to time.
I've even started exactly this meme before and had probably six or seven people join me by the end of the round, and I have no idea who any of them were.
This is an easy thing for people to pile on with together and I don't really see it happen that frequently, though it does have bursts of short-term frequency from time to time.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
They'll stop when you arrest all the clones for the same crime and gulag them
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Re: Mass identity duplication
This was my preferred approach but becomes difficult when both the HoS and Captain are also part of the gimmickthot_slayer wrote:They'll stop when you arrest all the clones for the same crime and gulag them
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Re: Mass identity duplication
Wasn't that mostly a antag gimmick anyway? I never went to medical that round so the only way someone got my DNA is through a ling sting early on. I was pretty sure the rest were transformation stung but I never saw it actually happen, just a lot of people complaining about becoming me. I assumed the Captain and HoS were victims to a prankster ling.Arianya wrote:This was my preferred approach but becomes difficult when both the HoS and Captain are also part of the gimmick
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Re: Mass identity duplication
I was talking about the same round you were talking about, Arianya. They had their own IDs and Katty's name so I assumed that they were transform stung.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
The one person I spoke to seemed to state it was genetics as opposed to a ling sting, but then a ling was also a geneticist at round end so who knows
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Re: Mass identity duplication
As long as they're doing it with IC tools and not by creating characters with the same names, I think it falls under "gimmick"
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Re: Mass identity duplication
I've seen this gimmick a number of times, and I believe that as soon as people willingly participate in the gimmick and with the interests of their "collective", like they're that old multiverse antag, then they really should be pretty much valid.
Of course, key word being "willingly" - if they're just transformed, but they maintain their original identity by keeping their ID on and not using it as an excuse to act dumb, then it should be harmless. But an endless tide of the same bearded greytider causing trouble times twenty is something that gets tiring quick, and security shouldn't get in trouble with admins for intervening.
Of course, key word being "willingly" - if they're just transformed, but they maintain their original identity by keeping their ID on and not using it as an excuse to act dumb, then it should be harmless. But an endless tide of the same bearded greytider causing trouble times twenty is something that gets tiring quick, and security shouldn't get in trouble with admins for intervening.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
We do not need to legislate every fun gimmick possible in a round.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
There's literally nothing covered in this thread that isn't already covered by the current rules.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
>someone does something outside the norm that has been done before but not regularly
>admins you need to stop this shit!!
God be damned if the only thing we're allowed to do is stay in our department and work. Even these poomins know what's up.
Goofy shit is part of low-rp ss13, especially on tg. Go to bay if you want fun monitored.
>admins you need to stop this shit!!
God be damned if the only thing we're allowed to do is stay in our department and work. Even these poomins know what's up.
Goofy shit is part of low-rp ss13, especially on tg. Go to bay if you want fun monitored.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
It certainly happens from time to time and when it does the round tends to go to shit. It's funny but when it happens over and over it gets frustrating seeing the same gimmick done. It's fair to bring it up, it's not over-adminning or whatever
No need to chastise OP for asking for clarification
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No need to chastise OP for asking for clarification
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Re: Mass identity duplication
correct don't do it round after round but if it just happens sometimes that sounds like a ball or somethingcaptain sawrge wrote:It certainly happens from time to time and when it does the round tends to go to shit. It's funny but when it happens over and over it gets frustrating seeing the same gimmick done. It's fair to bring it up, it's not over-adminning or whatever
No need to chastise OP for asking for clarification
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i'm gonna go with this
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Re: Mass identity duplication
If it start happening too much ahelp or call an ERT and they'll sort it out, otherwise go with the flow and have fun.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
Instead of policing it OOCly, send a hitman with the objective to kill them.
If people are consenting to be the same identity I don't see what needs to be regulated. They understand they have a higher chance of being framed.
If people are consenting to be the same identity I don't see what needs to be regulated. They understand they have a higher chance of being framed.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
Im fine with it as a one round joke but keep doing. It and it becomes dumbExcessiveJMadison wrote:Instead of policing it OOCly, send a hitman with the objective to kill them.
If people are consenting to be the same identity I don't see what needs to be regulated. They understand they have a higher chance of being framed.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
Some day, I feel like a whole bunch of people are going to have the last name smith as their character and it's going to lead to me getting banned.
Do not let that happen oh god
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Re: Mass identity duplication
I remember the one time Johnathan Rigel was a huge murderbonery shit and so the next round three-quarters of the server signed up as an "extended family" of [name] Rigels.
That was probbably against the rules but it was funny.
That was probbably against the rules but it was funny.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
> Jonathan Rigel
I didn't expect to see that name on /tg/
I didn't expect to see that name on /tg/
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Re: Mass identity duplication
Where does he play now? Used to always be around here.Sligneris wrote: > Jonathan Rigel
I didn't expect to see that name on /tg/
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Re: Mass identity duplication
Been on Bay back in 2015/2016, then Polaris in 2016/2017.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
Giving a ninja an objective to kill the clone name sounds like a funny way to handle it as admins.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
Unless players are setting their name to all be the same thing pre-game in the lobby there's literally nothing wrong with this
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Re: Mass identity duplication
Read the thread next time please!PKPenguin321 wrote:Unless players are setting their name to all be the same thing pre-game in the lobby there's literally nothing wrong with this
Armhulen wrote:correct don't do it round after round but if it just happens sometimes that sounds like a ball or somethingcaptain sawrge wrote:It certainly happens from time to time and when it does the round tends to go to shit. It's funny but when it happens over and over it gets frustrating seeing the same gimmick done. It's fair to bring it up, it's not over-adminning or whatever
No need to chastise OP for asking for clarification
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i'm gonna go with this
Armhulen wrote:Im fine with it as a one round joke but keep doing. It and it becomes dumbExcessiveJMadison wrote:Instead of policing it OOCly, send a hitman with the objective to kill them.
If people are consenting to be the same identity I don't see what needs to be regulated. They understand they have a higher chance of being framed.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
Armhulen wrote:Im fine with it as a one round joke but keep doing. It and it becomes dumbExcessiveJMadison wrote:Instead of policing it OOCly, send a hitman with the objective to kill them.
If people are consenting to be the same identity I don't see what needs to be regulated. They understand they have a higher chance of being framed.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
Hey I remember that issue months ago.
Yeah it happened one round, then the next, then like three more after and that's when I came in and became the no fun police because good god do you guys know how to run a joke straight into the ground.
And it was all pre-round name changes too, not genetics/lings.
Yeah it happened one round, then the next, then like three more after and that's when I came in and became the no fun police because good god do you guys know how to run a joke straight into the ground.
And it was all pre-round name changes too, not genetics/lings.
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Re: Mass identity duplication
holy shit saegrimr is back
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