Create a EU MRP server?
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Create a EU MRP server?
To seperate the ideas I layed out in: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 33&t=25343
I propose we add a new EU server for MRP (I suggest Polly as a name to keep with the theme, but it can be named whatever). Giving a distribution to the Manuel pop and better pings for those of us from the US.
I propose we add a new EU server for MRP (I suggest Polly as a name to keep with the theme, but it can be named whatever). Giving a distribution to the Manuel pop and better pings for those of us from the US.
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
I strongly support an MRP server for EU.
I have opinions on the naming, but that is not what's being discussed here.
I have opinions on the naming, but that is not what's being discussed here.
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
Euro here:
Not really needed, RP servers are, by their nature, meant to be slower paced. Lower ping is needed in normal servers because if you don't have quick reactions, you get gamer'd. That's not how it works on manuel so manuel is fine for euros to play on too.
Not really needed, RP servers are, by their nature, meant to be slower paced. Lower ping is needed in normal servers because if you don't have quick reactions, you get gamer'd. That's not how it works on manuel so manuel is fine for euros to play on too.
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
Euro here:Arathian wrote:Euro here:
Not really needed, RP servers are, by their nature, meant to be slower paced. Lower ping is needed in normal servers because if you don't have quick reactions, you get gamer'd. That's not how it works on manuel so manuel is fine for euros to play on too.
True, higher ping is not a big issue, the issue arise when the ping shoots up and down like crazy because of reasons. If the ping was high but constant it wouldn't be much of a problem (150/200 ping is good enough)
I had games were the ping was fine for half an hour and then 2000-3000 spikes that disconnected me.
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
I just want to actually get in the server man. I only go to Sybil if Manuel is full
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
>Pops finally stabilize
>Manuel is usually just shy of 50 players, perfect, with discussions to put the pop back up as culture stabilizes
>divide this pop for no raisin for minor ping improvements (I play on Manuel from South America and get decent ping, you have no excuse)
>both serves wither at 20 to 30 pop instead, and lower pop because muh low pop syndrome take over
Sad!
I honestly wonder waht the people that voted yes think it's gonna happen, 100 ping is gonna be a thing no matter where you play, when I played on NA servers back when I lived in NA the game wasn't much smoother either
This is the wishful thinking of people who think BYOND region matters at all past pop times
>Manuel is usually just shy of 50 players, perfect, with discussions to put the pop back up as culture stabilizes
>divide this pop for no raisin for minor ping improvements (I play on Manuel from South America and get decent ping, you have no excuse)
>both serves wither at 20 to 30 pop instead, and lower pop because muh low pop syndrome take over
Sad!
I honestly wonder waht the people that voted yes think it's gonna happen, 100 ping is gonna be a thing no matter where you play, when I played on NA servers back when I lived in NA the game wasn't much smoother either
This is the wishful thinking of people who think BYOND region matters at all past pop times
This has been happening for everyone in Manuel not just youGhilker wrote: Euro here:
True, higher ping is not a big issue, the issue arise when the ping shoots up and down like crazy because of reasons. If the ping was high but constant it wouldn't be much of a problem (150/200 ping is good enough)
I had games were the ping was fine for half an hour and then 2000-3000 spikes that disconnected me.
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
as a euro, terrible idea
you can get good with higher ping and MRP you should be talkie talkie not shooty shooty anyway
you can get good with higher ping and MRP you should be talkie talkie not shooty shooty anyway
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
yeah but we need another MRP server anyways cause it's always fullStickymayhem wrote:as a euro, terrible idea
you can get good with higher ping and MRP you should be talkie talkie not shooty shooty anyway
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
50 pop was temporary, we're at a high enough RP standard to grow it back to 70.Bawhoppennn wrote:yeah but we need another MRP server anyways cause it's always fullStickymayhem wrote:as a euro, terrible idea
you can get good with higher ping and MRP you should be talkie talkie not shooty shooty anyway
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
Well, I hope it does get raised... but even then, Manuel was consistently full even when the popcap was at 90... I think another server would be wise stillSheodir wrote:50 pop was temporary, we're at a high enough RP standard to grow it back to 70.Bawhoppennn wrote:yeah but we need another MRP server anyways cause it's always fullStickymayhem wrote:as a euro, terrible idea
you can get good with higher ping and MRP you should be talkie talkie not shooty shooty anyway
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
I'd rather it reaches a full pop (as in fully raised) with those enforced and set RP standards proper before we start splitting it apart.Bawhoppennn wrote:
Well, I hope it does get raised... but even then, Manuel was consistently full even when the popcap was at 90... I think another server would be wise still
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
Its not just about dealing with "shit" players. Its about what level the station is comfortably populated at and what level is it reasonable to keep an eye on people as an admin.Sheodir wrote:50 pop was temporary, we're at a high enough RP standard to grow it back to 70.Bawhoppennn wrote:yeah but we need another MRP server anyways cause it's always fullStickymayhem wrote:as a euro, terrible idea
you can get good with higher ping and MRP you should be talkie talkie not shooty shooty anyway
70-90 it just becomes a cluster fuck because there are mostly more people than jobs/roles on the station. The less people who have to play assistant the better for roleplay, because you can play a role.
Honestly its not about ping, its more of a simple way of having a second MRP server. Making a second MRP server? Why not have one in the EU on the box we already got while we're at it?Stickymayhem wrote:as a euro, terrible idea
you can get good with higher ping and MRP you should be talkie talkie not shooty shooty anyway
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
The holdouts we have on this right now are twofold:
1. Will there be a significant enough interest in having an additional Manuel-like server for the EU
2. Would having two servers split the Manuel population so much that it becomes too low population.
I doubt number two would ever be the case considering low-pop lends itself well to roleplaying, but it's still worth considering. The first option is much more likely, the polling in this thread also shows that things are a little undecided amongst people (granted the amount of folks on the forum is much less than those who play the game)
1. Will there be a significant enough interest in having an additional Manuel-like server for the EU
2. Would having two servers split the Manuel population so much that it becomes too low population.
I doubt number two would ever be the case considering low-pop lends itself well to roleplaying, but it's still worth considering. The first option is much more likely, the polling in this thread also shows that things are a little undecided amongst people (granted the amount of folks on the forum is much less than those who play the game)
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
Manuel is regularly pop-capped out at 50 most of the time, and only 1-2 of the other 5 servers have any players at a given time. Before it was lowered from a cap of 90, it was also still consistently full, and while that was probs in part because it was new and exciting then, I think it's still a good indicator a ton more people want to play than currently are able to. Since ping doesn't matter that much for RP, this is mainly a matter of just having two RP-dedicated servers or not.Hulkamania wrote:The holdouts we have on this right now are twofold:
1. Will there be a significant enough interest in having an additional Manuel-like server for the EU
2. Would having two servers split the Manuel population so much that it becomes too low population.
Even in the hypothetical worst case scenario where there wasn't interest in a second one, it would still just be replacing one of the many empty non-RP servers with an RP one.
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
Categorically incorrect that it's even worth considering. Even a 50-50 split of Manuel leads it to pre-ssethtide Sybil levels, which was as close as we've gotten to mRP with reasonable pop levels in the last two years.Hulkamania wrote:2. Would having two servers split the Manuel population so much that it becomes too low population.
I doubt number two would ever be the case considering low-pop lends itself well to roleplaying, but it's still worth considering.
Let the yuropoors rot in their grave.Hulkamania wrote:1. Will there be a significant enough interest in having an additional Manuel-like server for the EU
The biggest issue is trying to keep desperate bagilites away from the mRP servers and doing things like "peacefully protesting sec" by suicide-bombing the detective yet not getting bwoinked at all for it.
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
I see talk around the community of people lamenting Manuel being always full and EU players who say they'd like to see EU MRP.
Let's pull the trigger.
Let's pull the trigger.
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Re: Create a EU MRP server?
don't split the pop even more you insane lunatics what the fuck
you don't need good ping to mrp since no gaming allowed no killing allowed and no allowing allowed
increase cap on manuel and its ok
you don't need good ping to mrp since no gaming allowed no killing allowed and no allowing allowed
increase cap on manuel and its ok
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