Security should not be using its power to randomly fuck with people. Security is given a lot of power under our ruleset, which isn't a bad thing since it allows them to dunk tiders and people who fuck with them the whole round without much admin scrutiny.
Problems arise when security legitimately wrongs someone who hasn't done anything wrong. That person has no way of fighting back because taking on one member of the security team is taking on the entire security team, with the consequence being near certain death when caught. And the officers that are going after that person can't be faulted for it since they're merely doing their job. The easiest way to prevent shitty situations like this from happening is by just preventing security from being shitty at the start.
This is why random searches, which Cobby defined as stopping and harassing a player because you can, suck. Security should be able to give a coherent probably cause whenever they detain or stop someone, and I don't think that's an unreasonable ask. Obviously there are exceptions: code red/delta situations such as cult, revolution, families, etc would count as an exception, but command staff just making it code red for no reason is not an exception.
CDranzer wrote:It doesn't need to be removed because after playing security semi-regularly I can assure you that random searches simply do not happen; Not even on Manuel where the standards for behavior are higher.
You may think this but I just dealt with an officer last night who was random searching on code blue "because there were traitors." Don't worry, I too was laughing at this thread because I assumed they don't happen.
Actionb wrote:
Also what would be the alternative of not searching a suspect right then and there?
Throwing them into a brig cell and waiting until a court session is arranged because that's the only way to determine their innocence/guilt when you are not allowed to look into their backpack?
Or is sec supposed to just let them go until they fuck up and leave definite, undeniable proof somewhere? I doubt that's how security is meant to work.
If they're a suspect that implies you have some reason to suspect them of a crime, so a search would be within reason. If they're not a suspect, then why is it an issue to let them go, and why would you want to throw them in the brig to wait for a court session? Probably cause isn't definite undeniable proof, it's saying "this guy is PROBABLY up to no good, let me check his bag." Where that "probably" comes from is up to you, such as him having blood on his clothes or someone with his description having been caught doing a crime.