Pandarsenic wrote:
I would specifically request a combination of:
- a reference to at least one book, to demonstrate that the library was used as the methodology for their ERP or to document it.
- a reference, and preferably logs, to at least one round where administrative action had to be taken against those specific parties for their meta alliance.
If any of this can't be shared publicly to protect the identities of the innocent (or the guilty), I'm sure(?) the headmins would be willing and able to verify the library book's existence and the round references, as seems to be their common thing with information to keep hidden.
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If you are looking for a round, I dont know it off the top of my head. Funny enough the scenario that prompted the thread that happened ingame but we caught it before it was submitted to the library (2 people were literally making smut books about the other side by side), and one of them even posted in one of these threads saying "look what I caused" or something of that nature. One had abandoned their post to chill in Viro (the other offender was viro obv) and write their smut iirc. I am actually (ill get to it eventually) in the process of going over their activity since theyre well known enough that even deadchat went "yeah they do borderline stuff all the time" when casually bringing up their character(s). Log diving is insufferable tho so maybe ill just cyberstalk them or something.
On top of that, the library is curated at admin discretion and im not sure if deleted = non-recoverable. As of right now i cannot find (i didnt look very hard considering a much more recent scenario prompted the thread) any books that I could correlate to a specific ticket of metafriendship, and havent had one myself. I'm honestly not going to do that for the sake of a policy discussion where the rule itself is already supporting my stance, and the point of policy is to discuss the general acceptancy anyways. Discussing frequency in PD about a generalized action doesnt make sense anyways, as the point of policy is to discuss what to do when the situation arises.
Naturally this does not prevent you from just textfucking outside of the game and at the end of the day SOME metafriendship is allowed by nature of having persistent relationships, this is just hitting an aspect that will prompt admins "hey these two are a bit too buddy buddy". As of right now and as with nearly all actions that arent inheritently obvious to the victim and dont give a big "WUH OH" to the admins, it can be difficult to track without seeing it personally (which is why the more historical infamous metafriendships got away with doing it I'd imagine), and that usually requires being tipped off. Since these books are "perfectly fine" as-enforced, theyll get deleted and no notes will be handed out that these people are kinda being a bit funny via library. It's partially why Im suggesting hitting a symptom because its a long line of issues we are potentially missing because its ok (heck we have to pull nails to encourage people to admin things that are ok on their own but are disallowed habitually already like greytiding).
Perhaps the elephant in the room is I also find it (being unironic smut books between PCs) weird and especially when we advertise per rule 8 a game without erotic/creepy content I find that to be a good reason to disallow it. Again, there are servers dedicated to erotic content, I shouldnt have to entertain drawing the line in the sand here because people cant resist inserting their horny into the game. Theres not even an IC recourse to this because i dont think you can ICly remove weird books.
Finally, the library books are already not sacred anyways so I could go in right now and delete every actual horny book and theres not much anyone can do to my knowledge except complain until someone adds it to admin policy (again, already against the rules as written to include erotic content). I want to be able to tell people to not do it further and lead into a conversation about making sure your player relationship isnt negatively impacting the game.
TO BE CLEAR I AM ONLY ARGUING AGAINST SMUT BOOKS WHICH INCLUDE 2 PCs, especially those that include themselves. I am not prude enough to where I cant respect "classics" like WGW and LXM and dont have any interest bringing up their validity.