Streaming Check-In: Roundstart Revs and Cult?
- RaveRadbury
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Streaming Check-In: Roundstart Revs and Cult?
Allowing roundstart Revs and Cult for streamers, is this something you're alright with?
This came up during the debate and the headmin elect team has inquired about it so here goes. Currently streamers on /tg/station are NOT allowed to roll for roundstart revs or cult.
I have no personal opinion on this. While talking to the community about streaming some players expressed concern about having their team antag round ruined by stream snipers. When I set up streaming policy the plan was to make it initially strict so that it might be better-received by skeptics and so that I could balance out the overwhelming streamer request to not have a delay on streams. Also generally people prefer getting something rather than losing something so I felt that starting from a place where we could ease up on things would be the best approach.
I want to hear community thought and opinion on whether or not we should change this. Community acceptance of the streaming program is crucial to the mutual benefit between players and content creators.
The streaming program was started during my first term and was up and running at the end, Spring 2022. It's been running for about 2 years now with minimal issue. As far as I can recall we haven't had any issues with stream sniping or antag spoiling. I really was expecting like any but I think I can count on one hand the times any need for the stream management team to weigh in on administrative matters has occurred.
Headmins have oversight of the streaming program but so far every team since its inception has been content to let me run it. So I'm likely going to be the one to pull the trigger. Generally I prefer to hear from community members and staff before I make decisions like this.
This came up during the debate and the headmin elect team has inquired about it so here goes. Currently streamers on /tg/station are NOT allowed to roll for roundstart revs or cult.
I have no personal opinion on this. While talking to the community about streaming some players expressed concern about having their team antag round ruined by stream snipers. When I set up streaming policy the plan was to make it initially strict so that it might be better-received by skeptics and so that I could balance out the overwhelming streamer request to not have a delay on streams. Also generally people prefer getting something rather than losing something so I felt that starting from a place where we could ease up on things would be the best approach.
I want to hear community thought and opinion on whether or not we should change this. Community acceptance of the streaming program is crucial to the mutual benefit between players and content creators.
The streaming program was started during my first term and was up and running at the end, Spring 2022. It's been running for about 2 years now with minimal issue. As far as I can recall we haven't had any issues with stream sniping or antag spoiling. I really was expecting like any but I think I can count on one hand the times any need for the stream management team to weigh in on administrative matters has occurred.
Headmins have oversight of the streaming program but so far every team since its inception has been content to let me run it. So I'm likely going to be the one to pull the trigger. Generally I prefer to hear from community members and staff before I make decisions like this.
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Re: Streaming Check-In: Roundstart Revs and Cult?
We already have a pretty significant issue with people willingly allowing themselves to be converted and I'm a little concerned that this will continue via stream viewers.
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
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Re: Streaming Check-In: Roundstart Revs and Cult?
I feel like if people are using a stream as a way to willingly convert themselves, that's something we solve in the same way as any metagaming using a stream. If people are wanting to convert themselves willingly, then they'll do it regardless of a stream I feel like.
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Re: Streaming Check-In: Roundstart Revs and Cult?
I agree with Pumpkin on this, if someone is using the stream to get themselves converted we handle it like we handle any willing conversion.
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Re: Streaming Check-In: Roundstart Revs and Cult?
I am a machine that turns stream snipers into names on the public ban list.
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Re: Streaming Check-In: Roundstart Revs and Cult?
Fair, it's just hard to catch, but I suppose that's why we have a list of approved streamers.Pumpkin0 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 3:25 amI feel like if people are using a stream as a way to willingly convert themselves, that's something we solve in the same way as any metagaming using a stream. If people are wanting to convert themselves willingly, then they'll do it regardless of a stream I feel like.
AliasTakuto wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:11 pm As for the ear replacing stuff, you can ask Anne but I don't think this is what I was banned for. If I was all I can say is "Sorry for being hilarious"...
Omega_DarkPotato wrote:This sucks, dude.
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- RaveRadbury
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Re: Streaming Check-In: Roundstart Revs and Cult?
SERVER POLL RESULTS
Yes (370)
No (236)
Gonna take a second to shop these numbers around and see if everyone's good on it. I was expecting a larger margin.
Feel free to discuss in the meantime.
Yes (370)
No (236)
Gonna take a second to shop these numbers around and see if everyone's good on it. I was expecting a larger margin.
Feel free to discuss in the meantime.
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Re: Streaming Check-In: Roundstart Revs and Cult?
like 90% of our players are cheating motherfuckers nowadays who metagame with their buddies so this issue really is kinda moot, might as well let 'em at team antags
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Re: Streaming Check-In: Roundstart Revs and Cult?
Alright, I'm gonna allow this. If it doesn't go well we can talk more about it.
The wiki will be updated later today.
The wiki will be updated later today.
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