Ignoring/looting dead people in medbay

[Xeroxemnas]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Here's a hypothetical.

I go through all the effort of upgrading the cloner and scanner to full T4 parts to make cloning easier for everyone so people don't have to wait as long. Instead of using the cloner however I see shitters (nonantag ones) just looting the (cloneable) bodies outside the cloner and not even trying to clone them even with the fucking autoscanner enabled. Would this fall under rule 1: Don't be a dick?

I would imagine that even the dumbest of the dumb would realize that these people want to be cloned and if the person is smart enough to go through all their shit and steal their ID/guns etc, they should be able to put a guy in a scanner. It's even worse when you clone that very same person and they don't even have the common decency to pay it forward and do it for you in turn (cough Respii).

[Grazyn]

I think this is less about people looting a corpse's firesuit because the station is on fire right now and more about "lol time to break into medbay to get epic phat lewtz off of corpses. Neat, this assistant has insuls and toolbelt *YOINK*" type situations.

why is this bad?

Because it's an IC issue? Would an admin bwoink you for slipping someone to steal his gloves?

[Hulkamania]

If someone is coming along and rifling through your pockets for one or two specific items that's an IC issue. Likewise if someone is looting your entire corpse it's often going to be an IC issue as well. This is a particularly tricky subject because enforcing it is taxing on an administrator who has to hunt down the items, try to determine motivation for the crime, and otherwise spend a lot of time attempting to get to the bottom of the situation.

Essentially a dead body that is clearly awaiting to be cloned should be treated the same as stunning someone for no reason in the hallway to take their belongings. Are you just taking their shoes for a laugh? Are you taking everything they own and refusing to give it back when they ask? Are you taking away important items that might make it more difficult for them to do their job (a miners PKA, engineers gloves or hardsuit, etc.)? This is compounded by the fact that technically anything that happens to your corpse while you're dead is not the knowledge of your in character self.

This is first and foremost a rule 1 issue and depends entirely upon the context, things being taken, and reasons it was taken. If you truly believe it to be over the line from a normal scenario of someone taking your things and it cannot be resolved IC'ly due to other circumstances, ahelping it would then be appropriate.

tl;dr a corpse that is obviously about to be cloned should be treated much the same as any living person when it comes to taking their things, but like everything else often depends on context and intent.