Summon ghosts and meta information

[Timonk]

How much of the information you gain during summon ghosts can you use when you are revived? Especially considering your ghost is now visible to others and you can interact with the round as a ghost by pointing.

[Vekter]

We recently discussed something similar to this.

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Ghost court is funny. If you kill the wrong person you'll get punished though so be careful.

This seems different enough that it might be worth a ruling, though. I imagine your ghost being visible doesn't change anything about how you can't take information from being a ghost and use it when revived.

[Timonk]

I imagine your ghost being visible doesn't change anything about how you can't take information from being a ghost and use it when revived.

If your ghost isn't visible you can at least pretend like you are not there. If you happen to see someone get murdered as ghost during summon ghosts there's a good chance the murderer sees you too but you would have to pretend like you don't know but the killer knows you know

[Cobby]

You still forget what you saw as a ghost whether you’re visible or not, your visibility shouldn’t impact how you retain info.

You can see a murder just the same without summon ghosts, the only difference is the murderer can ahelp you more easily if you act on that since they knew your presence.

[Timonk]

You still forget what you saw as a ghost whether you’re visible or not, your visibility shouldn’t impact how you retain info.

You can see a murder just the same without summon ghosts, the only difference is the murderer can ahelp you more easily if you act on that since they knew your presence.

like it or not you will become more weary around that person and the person knows it too

[Cobby]

Which is again no different than seeing a murder of someone while youre invisible.

Just because the murderer can tell that youre watching him means that you get to kill him when you respawn.

The only argument I can think of for this is well the murderer could also kill you when you revive, but you can just out him on radio since its now IC and not ever actually have to interact with them. I am really struggling to understand the benefit gained by someone going "WHEN I WAS DEAD I SAW JOHN McSPACESTATION XIIV KILL SOMEONE" immediately as they respawn because... the ghost was visible to the murderer?

[Timonk]

Which is again no different than seeing a murder of someone while youre invisible.

Just because the murderer can tell that youre watching him means that you get to kill him when you respawn.

The only argument I can think of for this is well the murderer could also kill you when you revive, but you can just out him on radio since its now IC and not ever actually have to interact with them. I am really struggling to understand the benefit gained by someone going "WHEN I WAS DEAD I SAW JOHN McSPACESTATION XIIV KILL SOMEONE" immediately as they respawn because... the ghost was visible to the murderer?

The difference is that murder man will now prioritize getting rid of you because there's a risk you randomly stumble upon the crime scene vs murder man doesn't know and you can act as usual

It's kinda "I know you know that you shouldn't know" vs "no one saw me"

[Cobby]

Do people actually do this?

I mean if they happen upon your body maybe, but if john doe sees me murder via ghost im not really going to actively look for his body. I absolutely would if the ruling is he can out me immediately as he respawns.

[TheBibleMelts]

i like the idea that your character's memories are in their brains. keep it simple, if it didn't happen while your brain was working, you don't remember it.

EDIT: i think both chesh and fikou have given the thumbs up to this, so there you have it.